Hatred Pre-survival build

[DC_vipeout]

Since we've had many request about letting people play the earlier version of the game before many changes, we've decided to upload the older build and let you choose whether to play it or not using steam branches (found in the "Betas" tab for the game).

Please note, that the save files are incompatible, so make sure you backup your savegame file before changing the branch!

Pre-survival build:

• Physics simulation is using older version of PhysX - looks better, works (performance) a bit worse
  
• Blood is darker
  
• Lighting is different, softer, darker, imho better
  
• Cinematic executions play more often, although the camera may hit into things
  
• Cinematic executions are never bugging out (bad poses, missing animations, etc.)
  
• No "Story Mode" or "Insane" difficulties
  
• No survival mode
  
• No mod tools, nor mod support
  
• Wind is more noticeable
  
• Debris and destructible chunks stay on the map for longer
  
• Movement is different (you may not like it)

Originally posted by cyan0s1s:

cyan0s1s: the Antagonist, unsatisfied with the state his game is currently in, punches in the go-back-in-time code at the DC HQ
cyan0s1s: but upon turning around he is greeted by disgruntled DC workers
cyan0s1s: he collapses to his knees
cyan0s1s: still laughing manically
cyan0s1s: and is then pelted with beer cans
cyan0s1s: falls back in slow motion
cyan0s1s: sad music playing
cyan0s1s: 'I wonder if those codes will work'
cyan0s1s: *cutscene of all Steam Hatred copies being changed to pre-survival, permanently*
cyan0s1s: *steam implodes*
cyan0s1s: postmortem monologue 'well, they did'

[󠀡󠀡Paxtn]

Ayee!!!

[Zeus]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[DatBoi T]

Thanks again @John Kimble for dropping this knowledge on us about 7 days ago!! LOL
Thanks @DC_vipeout for Pinning a permenent thread.

[Crohns Racing]

Do I need to backup 0xdeadbeef too?
EDIT: I dont

[mortuus]

wow cool gotta try this later.

[C1S]

There's a glaring fault I've discovered in the current build worth noting in this.

On current build the Survival AI is still in the base game (since the update was implemented, and it was much worse during beta testing) breaking the campaign AI, some places worse than others. If you compare the Army Base on current build to pre-survival you'll notice the latter is actually playable on Extreme. Otherwise the soldiers bum-rush you and it manages to actually make Story Mode HARD. This level was always a slog fest even in the early builds but it's effectively broken as of now.

[B Dawg]

Huh? I've never tried Pre-Survival (might give it a go sometimes) but Army Base Extreme on the current build is actually pretty playable (especially since you have respawns). I don't have a problem beating it. The other day I only got killed once after getting C4 when they sent several squads at me after reaching the middle part of the map. Honestly that was my fault for just crouching near the sandbag trench and letting everyone surround me.

One thing I did notice on two playthroughs is that the Humvees at the end of the level (when you're supposed to go back to start to leave) don't shoot at you. Other than that, everything seemed fine.

[Vergil]

Army base is quite easy in the current build, even in insane. I actually made it a bit harder in my mods by removing an (4) exploit.

If I have an issue with the current army base, then this issue is that the soldiers holding pistols drop their weapons after shooting at us 10 times, then they run away looking for another gun to drop it again after spending an entire magazine. This weird behavior affects citizens aswell, so I assume that the soldiers with pistols either have the same issue as civilians or they use the same AI as civilians.

[Miguel_Csnv]

buen juego

[0670568352]

Its been ages since I've played the pre-surival build and now I'm gonna try it (and back up my saves I worked hard for that all 7 levels beaten on insane)

Is there some way DC could make insane compatable with pre-survival build?

[󠀡󠀡Paxtn]

No

[Vergil]

Vanilla "extreme" is "insane" with checkpoints.

[0670568352]

You literally absorb damage like a sponge

[󠀡󠀡Paxtn]

Originally posted by GulielmusTheEternal:

You literally absorb damage like a sponge

Cry some more.

[Vergil]

I wonder if he's complaining about taking almost no damage or about getting easily killed.