Lightning vs. Caius - lv.0 - DLC

[Kebess]

Has anyone managed to beat this fight on lv.0? (well, I guess so)

I managed to bring the Chaos Bahamut to +-100k HP then lost my focus and died... I actually staggerred it but then got killed by a silly unexpected blow (after the "bird" phase). So close.

The fight took me well over a 30/45 min to reach this point. Am I doing something wrong or it's actually the toughest fight in XIII-2? I like the challenge very much though, there's truly no room for error in this one, :)

EDIT
I got the time to kill him yesterday. Took me an hour.
It could have been done faster, but I got tired of dying at the very end all the time, because he got so damn random with his attacks. Had to play it safe, and finish him nice and slow.. Great fight.

[GravityLoL]

i would say toughest fight in XIII-2 is when you face Caius as Serah only newr end of the game. Also, if you activate paradox scope on, it's like hell

[Spasco]

I did beat him. It took me 48 minutes @_@ I actually think Caius himself was harder than Chaos Bahamut in this part, as he kept healing himself.

[talgaby]

I almost beat it, then I thought "Why the hell am I doing this, especially since the whole fight is on 10 fps for me?", so I just switched to level 8 and annihilated him.
Also, yes, I'd say the first form is harder since if you don't get a good pattern for his paradigms you'll have to camp in sentinel mode for 10-60 minutes. The bahamut mode is simple, but insanely boring with attack/attack/defend pattern repeating over and over and over.

Funny enough, the paradox fight against him with Serah was a breeze. Used Medic once maybe in the entire time? I read everywhere it's supposed to be a torture, don't see why. You have a monster to help you. Wouldn't be surprised if SEN+Chichu would wreck him faster than I did.

[Kebess]

Originally posted by GravityLoL:

i would say toughest fight in XIII-2 is when you face Caius as Serah only newr end of the game. Also, if you activate paradox scope on, it's like hell

Which fight is that? You mean in the Void Beyond? Right after talking to the 5 different Yules? I'm really not sure what's difficult in that paradox ending fight. I actually beat it first time with some mod I'm using to increase enemy HP by 4 and damage by 2, so I really can't see the difficulty in that fight.

The Lightning vs Caius lv.0 is something else though. Note that I do mean lv."zero" and not lv.1
Lv.0 is unlocked after unlocking lv.10 and killing him at least once, from my understanding.

Originally posted by talgaby:

I almost beat it, then I thought "Why the hell am I doing this, especially since the whole fight is on 10 fps for me?", so I just switched to level 8 and annihilated him.
Also, yes, I'd say the first form is harder since if you don't get a good pattern for his paradigms you'll have to camp in sentinel mode for 10-60 minutes. The bahamut mode is simple, but insanely boring with attack/attack/defend pattern repeating over and over and over.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm at 15 FPS in this fight, but many of his attacks drop me to below 10... I don't find Caius phase difficult though, just long - I actually don't use a single potion for that phase. Once you understand the pattern of the attacks everything is pretty much obvious and predictable. You still have to be focus to not miss a paradigm swicth at the wrong time though, or you could get OS/2shot.

Phase 2 is more challenging to me. It's pretty straighforward as well once you've got the pattern of the attacks, but then again, no room for the slightest mistake, especially below 40% HP. And towards the very end, he sometimes do a surprise attack after the area phase. I totally wasn't expecting it after staggering it, so I went all in and he pretty much OS'd me...

Will try again tonight, I don't have a whole hour to spend on it right now, :)

[Kebess]

Originally posted by SpartanScooter:

I did beat him. It took me 48 minutes @_@ I actually think Caius himself was harder than Chaos Bahamut in this part, as he kept healing himself.

48min irl time or game time? :) GG for the kill. It's a tough one. How many stars did you get? I'm wondering if possible at all to 5 star it.

[talgaby]

On the lowest level? You probably have to be pretty much perfect and have a very good first stage paradigm cycle.

[thewaverippers]

I did it with a Trainer LOL and it unlocked all of Lightning's Levels

[thewaverippers]

I have a game save for the PC Version of FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 of the Story Beaten and Lightning COM/RAV have been obtained and 143/160 fragments.

[SirNinja]

Beating him at level 0 is certainly possible, but it takes a long time (about 45-70 minutes) and your strategy has to be very good. You have to know when to shift to Knight and have one or two bars of Immortality ready at a moment's notice, especially during his Chaos Bahamut form.

Here's a video of a level 0 fight cleared (without items either!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHwvkk69RvU

Originally posted by GravityLoL:

i would say toughest fight in XIII-2 is when you face Caius as Serah only newr end of the game. Also, if you activate paradox scope on, it's like hell

That fight is cake, Paradox Scope or not. Just poison him until it sticks, and then attack/tank/heal as necessary.

[GravityLoL]

Originally posted by thewaverippers:

I did it with a Trainer LOL and it unlocked all of Lightning's Levels

Originally posted by thewaverippers:

I have a game save for the PC Version of FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 of the Story Beaten and Lightning COM/RAV have been obtained and 143/160 fragments.

i don't see a reason to be proud from this...

Originally posted by SirNinja:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHwvkk69RvU

Originally posted by GravityLoL:

i would say toughest fight in XIII-2 is when you face Caius as Serah only newr end of the game. Also, if you activate paradox scope on, it's like hell

That fight is cake, Paradox Scope or not. Just poison him until it sticks, and then attack/tank/heal as necessary.

maybe for you but for me it was hard as hell when i activated paradox scope for the first time.

[Kebess]

Originally posted by GravityLoL:

maybe for you but for me it was hard as hell when i activated paradox scope for the first time.

You must have been totally underleveled then, because that fight is not comparable to lv.0.

[Kebess]

Originally posted by SirNinja:

Here's a video of a level 0 fight cleared (without items either!):

Nice job! It's certainly doable since every attack is avoidable.

[chrcoluk]

the serah paradox fight can be hard if dont use a sen, but with sen its easy just long.

the hardest fights are the DLC fights.

[talgaby]

I wouldn't call them hardest, more like "purely gimmicky damage sponge bullshit". Except the Lightning/Amodar, that is probably the closest to a real fight instead of cheap scripts and eight-digit health.

[Kebess]

Originally posted by talgaby:

I wouldn't call them hardest, more like "purely gimmicky damage sponge bullshit". Except the Lightning/Amodar, that is probably the closest to a real fight instead of cheap scripts and eight-digit health.

Are you just trolling or you're actually serious?