The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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Grantorino 2016 年 7 月 18 日 下午 1:02
What's the best ending for Ciri and why?
The ending where she becomes the empress or the ending where she becomes a witcher?
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Living Broscillograph 2016 年 7 月 18 日 下午 1:11 
Neither
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1) She has no administrative experience, no skills in intrigue and no sympathy for Nilfgaard as this country slaughtered her grandma, pillaged her home and ruined all her life. She will fail in ruling the empire pretty quick and flee immediately if she's very lucky.

2) Her powers allow her to manipulate space and time but she doesn't know how to use them properly, she can only teleport on short distances, scream like a goddess and flee to another dimensions. She may be skilled with her sword, know much about creatures but she won't match a witcher.
Adam__86 2016 年 7 月 18 日 下午 1:39 
I say her becoming a Witcher, throughout the novels she always dreamed of becoming a Witcher so seeing her dream come true was awesome
Bite 2016 年 7 月 18 日 下午 5:51 
Well, there's a couple of things to consider.

If you take into consideration everything that happened in the novels, Ciri cannot, and should not under any circumstance be near her father after everythihng he did to her family, her friends, and herself.

However....the games do an extremely poor job at portraying Emhyr's past deeds. In fact, neither Yennefer or Geralt had any reason to deal with him to begin with (I mean sure, they make a few comments about it but it always seems out of character if you know what happened before). So if you stick only with the games and their Empress ending, then seemingly Ciri becomes a great ruler and everything works fine in the end (Sligjt spoilers: Even in Blood and Wine you can catch up with Ciri on her empress ending and see how she's doing, and she seems to be doing real good, albeit a bit bored, but you could say the same for her witcher ending, since she seems a bit disappointed then).

So to summarize, if you count the entire canon from the very first book, the witcher ending is the best there could be. However if you value what the game offers with the empress ending, then there's no reason to not take it.

Me personally, I like the results of the Empress ending more, because as Ciri herself puts it, she does far more good as a ruler than as a witcher fighting monsters in forgotten villages. However I love the way the witcher ending wraps everything together. My vote ultimately goes for the witcher ending though.
sarotiv 2016 年 11 月 11 日 下午 4:34 
One thing: Law of Surprise. And she intently accepeted that destiny, as the Law demands for it to be complied. That could've not made her any hapier when that time came as we could see in the end of The Witcher 3.

So, as it was mentioned here, she has absolutely no reason to ever get close to her father, much less the Nilgaardian Empire, and any trace of a life of nobility at all after all she'd been throught in her entire life. One could say that a witcher life can be a thousand times more dangerous and painful, but it'll never be ungrateful for one who seeks its freedom and indepence side, so that it was in all of those kinds of moments, like in the post-Thanedd events and all the Rats things that she gained all her self-confidence and had the moments of greater joy and fun in her life, even letting the life take her to wherever it could with the Rats without ever worrying about being pursued or getting back to Geralt and Yennefer.

As it was mentioned, some actions look so out of character that I could only believe Ciri choosing to become empress if it actually were a certain doppler in her place.
Nightfall29 2017 年 7 月 4 日 下午 2:52 
Neither
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1) She has no administrative experience, no skills in intrigue and no sympathy for Nilfgaard as this country slaughtered her grandma, pillaged her home and ruined all her life. She will fail in ruling the empire pretty quick and flee immediately if she's very lucky.

2) Her powers allow her to manipulate space and time but she doesn't know how to use them properly, she can only teleport on short distances, scream like a goddess and flee to another dimensions. She may be skilled with her sword, know much about creatures but she won't match a witcher.

Yes, but you are overlooking several things.

Nilfgaard, depending on the ending, controls a pretty sizable empire. As others have pointed out, they have a history of being much more tolerant of the kingdoms they assimilate once they are conquered. Ciri has a chance, by becoming Empress to curb a lot of the barbarity that has been going on. Without her as a benevolent monarch, calling the shots, who knows how much worse things are going to get. She would be able to outlaw and put a stop to the rampant persecution of non humans and the violence that smaller kingdoms allow to go on. Sure, she may not "want" to be Empress and get saddled with all that it entails, but what would be the alternative. Do you think she would be happy traipsing across the countryside with Geralt, witnessing the barbarity and prejudice she will see time after time and thinking "gee... I could have maybe prevented this... oh well..." As for her not being able to rule... I'm sure the Emperor doesn't make every single decision himself, he'd never get it all done much less sleep! He has counselors and flunkies that that can carry out the details once he paints the broad strokes. Yesh, just look at us in the U.S., we've got one of the biggest moronic bozos of all time - Trump - and our country hasn't fallen apart (well completely anyway.)

Second, it's not like she can't see Geralt, Yen, and others... they would visit and I'm sure they would be glad to lend her a hand whenever she needs it. Also, sure, she may not have complete control of her powers, but still... she can't be "caged." It's not like she is going to the moon and and can never have contact with her loved ones again.
v0 2017 年 7 月 4 日 下午 3:04 
well gents you'd obviously've to ask Ciri what's best for her :P
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AH-1 Cobra 2017 年 7 月 4 日 下午 8:22 
Her becoming a Witcher seems like the "real" ending. Ciri isn't really empress material. You gotta have a vicious streak in you to be a good emperor. You gotta know when heads just need to roll. Geralt understands this, but I don't think Ciri does.
最後修改者:AH-1 Cobra; 2017 年 7 月 4 日 下午 8:24
Exarch_Alpha 2017 年 7 月 4 日 下午 9:02 
She cna give people the finger and go to another world any time she wants. As long as she is alive she is smart enough to do her own choices.

Also funny how the usual suspects project their failure at being potential leaders into the character. Lol, just lol.
Riverstyx 2017 年 7 月 4 日 下午 10:00 
引用自 BuzzardBee
引用自 Bite
Well, there's a couple of things to consider.

If you take into consideration everything that happened in the novels, Ciri cannot, and should not under any circumstance be near her father after everythihng he did to her family, her friends, and herself.

However....the games do an extremely poor job at portraying Emhyr's past deeds. In fact, neither Yennefer or Geralt had any reason to deal with him to begin with (I mean sure, they make a few comments about it but it always seems out of character if you know what happened before). So if you stick only with the games and their Empress ending, then seemingly Ciri becomes a great ruler and everything works fine in the end (Sligjt spoilers: Even in Blood and Wine you can catch up with Ciri on her empress ending and see how she's doing, and she seems to be doing real good, albeit a bit bored, but you could say the same for her witcher ending, since she seems a bit disappointed then).

So to summarize, if you count the entire canon from the very first book, the witcher ending is the best there could be. However if you value what the game offers with the empress ending, then there's no reason to not take it.

Me personally, I like the results of the Empress ending more, because as Ciri herself puts it, she does far more good as a ruler than as a witcher fighting monsters in forgotten villages. However I love the way the witcher ending wraps everything together. My vote ultimately goes for the witcher ending though.

If, for one moment, Emhyr truly was tired of ruling (which he is not), wanted to cease his invasion and domination of the north, (which he does not), and just wanted to retire, he would't be resisting his opponents at home who have been demanding that he step down from the throne. He will not go quietly and just hand over the throne to Ciri, a woman he's never cared a damn about except to use her foir his own purposes. So suddenly you guys believe, regardless of what Ciri wants or is prepared for, that he would simply walk out of the picture after having waged three wars trying to secure his power and control in the north?

Ciri still acts and behaves as if she were a child and that's completely understandable as her life has not been an easy one. Constantly under one threat or another, in flight or in hiding, abused, beaten, and used, she's been on her own for some years and none of that truly prepared her as a adult for dealing with responsibility.

Let's not forget, that Catriona plague was introduced to their world thanks to Ciri. Quite a lot of people have died from it. I'm sure she feels badly because of it but I doubt she'll ever dealt with that guilt. You expect her to be able to assume the throne of the one place that she despises most when she's never shown any interest in any of the realms that she is heiress to before now? She's ill-equipped to deal with most things. She'd be a horrible ruler and leader. First thing that goes wrong, she'd throw a tantrum.

"The woman had the necessary qualities. From her father she had inherited an empress' political instincts. From Geralt she had gained a sense of simple, human decency. Few monarchs boast both traits, which is quite a shame." - the Empress Ciri epilogue.
Bite 2017 年 7 月 5 日 上午 5:27 
I find it astonishing how you on several occasions keep replying to posts of mine made years ago.

引用自 BuzzardBee
If, for one moment, Emhyr truly was tired of ruling (which he is not), wanted to cease his invasion and domination of the north, (which he does not), and just wanted to retire, he would't be resisting his opponents at home who have been demanding that he step down from the throne. He will not go quietly and just hand over the throne to Ciri, a woman he's never cared a damn about except to use her foir his own purposes. So suddenly you guys believe, regardless of what Ciri wants or is prepared for, that he would simply walk out of the picture after having waged three wars trying to secure his power and control in the north?

Emhyr wants to retire, that's one of the main points of the game. The fact that he still fights the folk back home is a natural answer. Would you leave your home looking for someone only for other people to burn it down? of course not.

And he has cared about Ciri, do you ever stop to think why is it that Geralt, Yennefer and Ciri even tolerate the man after he sent assassins after them for so long? (I sure didn't know when I wrote that post over one year ago,..) He spared them and let Ciri go right after he got a hold on her, so yes, there's a point to the man caring about Ciri in the end.

引用自 BuzzardBee
Ciri still acts and behaves as if she were a child and that's completely understandable as her life has not been an easy one. Constantly under one threat or another, in flight or in hiding, abused, beaten, and used, she's been on her own for some years and none of that truly prepared her as a adult for dealing with responsibility.

So she's never to face responsibility? Are you really that patronizing? Even she says so herself, she will do more good sitting in a throne than hunting nekkers in forgotten villages. That sole realization is good enough to believe that she is ready to start being an adult.

引用自 BuzzardBee
Let's not forget, that Catriona plague was introduced to their world thanks to Ciri. Quite a lot of people have died from it. I'm sure she feels badly because of it but I doubt she'll ever dealt with that guilt. You expect her to be able to assume the throne of the one place that she despises most when she's never shown any interest in any of the realms that she is heiress to before now? She's ill-equipped to deal with most things. She'd be a horrible ruler and leader. First thing that goes wrong, she'd throw a tantrum.

I'm constantly amazed at your inhability or rather unwillingness to see a character grow given the circumstances and context. If you think Ciri would be a horrible leader that's on you, but even Dandelion and Geralt say she's got better skills than morst rulers.

And for the record, IMO, the endings just make a fine job at pulling the hearstrings. Who woldn't want to see Ciri become a witcher and follow her own dreams? of course no one would oppose that, that's just amazing. The Empress ending requieres a sacrifice from both the player and the characters, because nobody likes it, but everyone feels like it is the right thing to do. Accepting the Empress ending is, for better or worse, a reflection of growth and a sense of responsibility with the greater good from Geralt, Ciri, and the player himself.
Gabriel Angelos 2017 年 7 月 5 日 上午 10:45 
引用自 Bite
Well, there's a couple of things to consider.

If you take into consideration everything that happened in the novels, Ciri cannot, and should not under any circumstance be near her father after everythihng he did to her family, her friends, and herself.

However....the games do an extremely poor job at portraying Emhyr's past deeds. In fact, neither Yennefer or Geralt had any reason to deal with him to begin with (I mean sure, they make a few comments about it but it always seems out of character if you know what happened before). So if you stick only with the games and their Empress ending, then seemingly Ciri becomes a great ruler and everything works fine in the end (Sligjt spoilers: Even in Blood and Wine you can catch up with Ciri on her empress ending and see how she's doing, and she seems to be doing real good, albeit a bit bored, but you could say the same for her witcher ending, since she seems a bit disappointed then).

So to summarize, if you count the entire canon from the very first book, the witcher ending is the best there could be. However if you value what the game offers with the empress ending, then there's no reason to not take it.

Me personally, I like the results of the Empress ending more, because as Ciri herself puts it, she does far more good as a ruler than as a witcher fighting monsters in forgotten villages. However I love the way the witcher ending wraps everything together. My vote ultimately goes for the witcher ending though.

This is a good post and saves me reposting the same thing over and over ....in this very old thread.
Jac 2017 年 7 月 5 日 上午 11:55 
The Witcher ending is the best one. The life on the road offers freedom and adventure. Some people think that power and wealth are the way to happiness but they are gravely mistaken.
Bite 2017 年 7 月 5 日 下午 12:16 
引用自 Jac
The Witcher ending is the best one. The life on the road offers freedom and adventure. Some people think that power and wealth are the way to happiness but they are gravely mistaken.

The empress ending isn't about happiness though. That's not the point at all.
tigerpoetry 2017 年 7 月 5 日 下午 1:23 
In all honesty, though I get why CDPR came up with the three possible endings, Only the terrible ending and the good ending ever made any sense to me.

The middle one (Ciri becoming empress) just doesn't stand up to everything the player learns about Ciri in the entire game.

To answer the OP (which is what we should always try to do), Ciri becoming a witcher is the best outcome. she hates authority, despises politics and loves freedom. She loves the wild. She's a natural born fighter...need I go on?

Why else would she be so delighted to steal horses for her elven friend?

Ciri...witcher...yes.

P.S. have you ever taken note of that portrait of Ciri as a child in that stupid fluffy dress...and have you ever noticed how sour and disgusted her face was?

She's a child of the elder blood...and so she's tempestuous.

Bite 2017 年 7 月 5 日 下午 5:18 
引用自 BuzzardBee
引用自 Bite

The empress ending isn't about happiness though. That's not the point at all.

How about hypocrisy then. Serving on a throne that was responsible for the murder of her own mother and grandmother. If that doesn't give her nightmares for the rest of her life, I don't know what would. Then again, if she's ruthless enough to sit there and not have her bile in her throat, then she's more Nilfgaardian than Cintran.

Please, do ignore everything else surrounding the situation. Go on.

引用自 BuzzardBee
Do you honestly believe that he would just step down and away from an empire he murdered to get his hands on and wages three wars to secure? "Okay. That's it. I'm outta here." Really?

Oh geez, remember when that exact scenario happened when he got a hold on Ciri and had his archers ready to kill Geralt and Yennefer? I sure do. The moment he literally let Ciri go only because he saw her crying.
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