Titan Expedition back to main save - odd behavior?

[Mozzy]

I only know what I've googled. Had always done complete new save, then just claim rewards on main save afterwards. For Titan, did it via anomaly and with main save.

According to many prior threads (not very old, like mid to late 2024), we are supposed to be able to bring back:

-systems visited will be in star systems list
-bases made in expedition supposed to transfer over into main save

-can bring back (1) ship and (1) multitool - that you have set active - AND supposedly can not be one you already copied into expedition. (again, this is what prior posts say, I'm not making this claim)

^^ my actual experience ->

1- None of my created bases transferred back to main save.
--My main is fairly new start, created with Worlds 2 update, and all I have is one primary base. Created couple bases in Titan expedition, and upon completion, return to main save, none of them are in my base list, and systems aren't either.

2- My own dumb fault, but had my own copied ship set active, so was not able to bring a ship back (as expedition UI said already had/owned the ship).

BUT --> what is really odd, is it allowed me to dupe/copy back the multitool I was holding. Which was the one I already copied over from main to expedition. So basically, I got to copy back another dupe of it. Which I scrapped and sold for cash.

Not really complaining obviously, but that contradicts what older posts said about unable to copy back a multitool or ship that you already copied into the expedition.

3- Not a real issue, but worth pointing out that I was not allowed to place for transfer any of the 'good' materials I harvested. The purple stellar materials like quartzite, crystal helium, and milestone reward materials like lithium and other gas --> all blocked as 'mission critical' items and could not transfer back to main save. So lots of mining time made kinda wasted.

I hand mined and made quarzite mining base in expedition, and none of the material was allowed to be transferred, and as noted, the base was nuked and didn't transfer back into main save.

[Cheallaigh]

the save you did as the expedition becomes a regular game save all by itself once completed, it doesn't meld with whatever other saves you have. you cannot bring items back... like the engines or the ship, yep, it's not a dupe but something entirely different, which is why you could bring back the multitool. i don't know why they put in the limits for the harvested materials, but they probably had a reason, since one of the rewards was a LOT. they probably also put limits on the engines(i saw someone complain about that), because they want you to actually go through the process, for a main save and not bypass by just doing the expedition.

[Mozzy]

Originally posted by Cheallaigh:

the save you did as the expedition becomes a regular game save all by itself once completed, it doesn't meld with whatever other saves you have. you cannot bring items back... like the engines or the ship, yep, it's not a dupe but something entirely different, which is why you could bring back the multitool. i don't know why they put in the limits for the harvested materials, but they probably had a reason, since one of the rewards was a LOT. they probably also put limits on the engines(i saw someone complain about that), because they want you to actually go through the process, for a main save and not bypass by just doing the expedition.

This is very old and incorrect. Before Omega expedition, it was true that all expeditions were entirely separate from main save.

With expedition and onwards, we can now start an expedition with our main save via the anomaly. Then on completion of expedition, merge back into the main save via the anomaly expedition terminal.

I'd suggest reading up on it, and visit the expedition terminal inside the anomaly.

1- If you start expedition as brand new game save, then that save converts into a regular normal save at end.

2- if you start expedition inside your main save via the anomaly terminal, then you can transfer quite a few items + return from expedition save and merge back into main save.

My entire post above was referring to scenario #2, and you are replying as if only #1 occurred / exists.

[SilverLightSaber]

I'm not sure, because I noticed that my bases didn't come back either. I did notice something about the expedition saying that the quest that gives you the drive that takes you to purple systems is skipped if a person starts a new save with the expedition. So when they conclude they keep everything from the expedition. My thought is that, maybe after completing the quest that gives you the purple system drive (the name escapes me at the moment) the base might become available. As soon as the update dropped i started working on the quests, since I basically started over on steam last summer.

during the expedition I used a ship that was a reward from a previous expedition and put that drive on it. and copied it over. after that I pre-packaged the drive and sent it as well, just in case. So i basically have two now. I think i can travel to a purple system, but I haven't tried yet. I think i still have quite a bit to go before getting to that quest. though. If anyone could confirm that would be great.

As a note at least in the last two expeditions I played. I noticed that once you claim all the rewards, you can place stuff to transfer in the anomaly (before choosing to end the expedition). go back to your main save through the options menu.
- Pick everything up in your primary save
- return the to expedition
- load more stuff in
- rinse and repeat

i basically brought 16 stored upgrades back from this one.

I do hope I do get my bases eventually. I found a location for a base that had Electromagnetic Power, Methane and Lithium within the base's radius on that water planet.

[Shadow Strider]

You seem to have misunderstood how things work...

If you want to transfer anything between the expo and your main save, you have to start the expo via the terminus from within that save...

If you start a new save, then it just converts to a normal mode save at the end, and you retain all the stuff in that save.

The only stuff available on separate saves is phase rewards

[Naeniver]

Originally posted by Shadow Strider:

You seem to have misunderstood how things work...

If you want to transfer anything between the expo and your main save, you have to start the expo via the terminus from within that save...

If you start a new save, then it just converts to a normal mode save at the end, and you retain all the stuff in that save.

The only stuff available on separate saves is phase rewards

Might be mistaken, but the OP seems to be indicating that they DID start the expedition from the anomaly terminal on their main save.

As for the issues the OP raises, I'm here specifically for #1. I also do not have my bases. I entered the expedition on my main save, using the anomaly terminal, completed the entire expedition, copied my main tool/ship back to the main save when I was finished along with 8 tech and up to 24 slots of resources, but my bases are not available from the portals.

I had created 1 base on a gas giant as a milestone requirement, but I had also made a 2nd base on a planet at the very end to help refine materials to make it easier bringing them home. I specifically had also wanted the ability to get back to those new systems to finish exploring the fauna and whatnot (and there had been some cool fauna I really wanted to tame after the expedition was over).

I do have the glyphs for at least one of the planets because at the very end I had the foresight (ie: paranoia) to screenshot the glyphs from the big portal at Rendezvous 5, but if it weren't for that I'm not sure how I would ever find my way back there. Obviously my bases won't still be there. Then again, I've heard that glyphs are galaxy dependent, and I have no idea if those planets were in the same galaxy or not...

[smurfy]

Am I able to return to the expedition zone after completion?

Originally posted by smurfy:

This is not rocket science.

If you start the expedition as a brand new save from the game menu, everything you do in the expedition transfers to a normal save at the conclusion.

If you start the expedition from an existing save using the Expedition Terminus in the Anomaly, then what you can see depends on what you have unlocked on your primary save:

If you have completed In Stellar Multitudes, then you will immediately see (and be able to visit/edit) your Expedition base(s) and all the visited stations. I have tested and verified this.

If you had not completed In Stellar Multitudes, all content in Purple systems will still be inaccessible to you. The Expedition is NOT a shortcut to bypass the In Stellar Multitudes questline in an existing save.

If you complete In Stellar Multitudes AFTER completing the Expedition, then the hidden expedition base(s) and stations should be accessible to you. I am about to run EXP17 a 4th time with a save that has only just started They Who Returned so will know for sure in a couple of days whether that is the case.

[Naeniver]

That final paragraph smurfy shares is something I have read elsewhere as well, but can't yet verify myself either. I saw someone (reddit?) claim that after finishing In Stellar Multitudes they still didn't have access to the bases they made on the same save in the expedition. But of course they could be mistaken about the exact steps they've done.

I did find that my main pre-expedition save is in the Euclid Galaxy, and Exp17 was in Euclid as well (you can see this if you are able to locate any of the planets in your discoveries and then save them to your personal wonders, then hover over the wonder and the glyphs and galaxy are displayed). So at least the glyphs will still get me there even if my bases don't show up after finishing In Stellar Multitudes. (I don't see In Stellar Multitudes yet btw, so I assume I'm still doing pre-reqs; very new to NMS).

[IceBurner]

If you have not cleared In Stellar Multitudes before starting Titan from an existing save, all systems, scans, and bases will not carry over to your existing save when you're done.

Even if you clear the quest later, they're completely gone from your save.

I played it that way myself, twice on different files, and that was the result both times.

[smurfy]

Originally posted by Naeniver:

That final paragraph smurfy shares is something I have read elsewhere as well, but can't yet verify myself either. I saw someone (reddit?) claim that after finishing In Stellar Multitudes they still didn't have access to the bases they made on the same save in the expedition. But of course they could be mistaken about the exact steps they've done.

I did find that my main pre-expedition save is in the Euclid Galaxy, and Exp17 was in Euclid as well (you can see this if you are able to locate any of the planets in your discoveries and then save them to your personal wonders, then hover over the wonder and the glyphs and galaxy are displayed). So at least the glyphs will still get me there even if my bases don't show up after finishing In Stellar Multitudes. (I don't see In Stellar Multitudes yet btw, so I assume I'm still doing pre-reqs; very new to NMS).

That's why I made it clear in the last paragraph that I hadn't tested it and it was only what I believed should happen (emphasis on the should not would).

Originally posted by IceBurner:

If you have not cleared In Stellar Multitudes before starting Titan from an existing save, all systems, scans, and bases will not carry over to your existing save when you're done.

Even if you clear the quest later, they're completely gone from your save.

I played it that way myself, twice on different files, and that was the result both times.

Thanks for that info.
I've just completed my first test of that scenario now too and it certainly looks like we don't get access to our bases. No Teleporter access but discoveries tab still lists all the systems visited and I can portal into the planet(s) fine and see the systems. My scan histories have been retained, (including the planet I did 100% fauna on for the nanites bonus).
LOL portal on Adtow water planet is 893U below sea level. Good thing I had thought to install my pressure membrane or my 5 year old PD save would have been toast ;) .

[CrazyMom]

Question: can you transfer polished stone and are you retaining all the blueprints for the ruin pieces when exiting back to your main save?

[Geldric™]

Originally posted by CrazyMom:

Question: can you transfer polished stone and are you retaining all the blueprints for the ruin pieces when exiting back to your main save?

NO these Relic parts do NOT transfer over
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429998276

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429989759

RE: Do bases from Exp17 transfer over if you HAVE NOT unlocked Purple systems = NO they do NOT!

Bases from Exp 17 that I cannot access on main save
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429993069

This is a fresh save, I have zero bases
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429993480

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EDIT: What's WORSE, if you were to complete all the quests to TURN ON the Purple systems.... your bases are STILL gone :(
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429996478

[CrazyMom]

Thank you Geldric for your answers, this saved a lot of otherwise wasted time for me, I now have to spend this time to finish the story for at least 2 of my 'building' files.
I did a new file for Titan first, will keep this to find nice new purple systems, keeping a record of all glyphs and special coordinates.

Edit: Although doing the expedition to get the special hyperdrive and then re-visiting these ruin planets for the blueprints might be a faster way. Please correct me if I am wrong on this.

[smurfy]

Originally posted by CrazyMom:

Question: can you transfer polished stone and are you retaining all the blueprints for the ruin pieces when exiting back to your main save?

You can bring back the Polished Stone (it's not a purple system exclusive element like Quartzite, Lithium etc), but TBH, these planets have been pretty easy to find and the relics are far too common on them, so it's pretty easily harvested.

Originally posted by CrazyMom:

Thank you Geldric for your answers, this saved a lot of otherwise wasted time for me, I now have to spend this time to finish the story for at least 2 of my 'building' files.
I did a new file for Titan first, will keep this to find nice new purple systems, keeping a record of all glyphs and special coordinates.

Edit: Although doing the expedition to get the special hyperdrive and then re-visiting these ruin planets for the blueprints might be a faster way. Please correct me if I am wrong on this.

As described above, if you haven't done the quest in a main save, exporting the hyperdrive and installing it does not give you access to purple systems. Only your fresh save Titan file will have access unless you do the quest.

@Geldric - replies 7,8,9 already covered the lack of access to bases if you complete In Stellar Multitudes after completing Titan.

It's also worth noting for completionists that any fishing records obtained during Expeditions (this is not exclusive to Titan) do not transfer back to your main save. You'll need to re-catch all the new Gas Giant fish back in a main save.

[CrazyMom]

Thank you smurfy for the clarification.
Edit: If the relic planets also appear in regular systems, is one able to gather the blueprints there as well in a non finished game file, or are the blueprints exclusively in purple systems as part of late game rewards?

[smurfy]

Originally posted by CrazyMom:

Thank you smurfy for the clarification.
Edit: If the relic planets also appear in regular systems, is one able to gather the blueprints there as well in a non finished game file, or are the blueprints exclusively in purple systems as part of late game rewards?

Yes, the blueprints are all available on those planets by interacting with memory stones. I have them in an Abandoned Mode save (so definitely no Purple access).