3D effect??

[Larry]

Hi. I'm running on a new PC, and so I installed Steam and NMS on it.

I've just started a new game, and I'm a bit puzzled by the visuals I'm seeing. It looks like it's displaying a 3D image (offset red and blue on either side of objects).

Not sure if this is just some 'HUD effect' thing, or if it's actually set to be in 3D. I haven't seen any 3D display options in the settings so far.

First of all, is 3D an option for NMS? If so, where do you turn it off.

Otherwise, has anyone seen this effect? Weird thing is, it's not there all the time... Sometimes I move, and the distant objects have a red offset image and a blue offset image to the left and right of each object... but then a few seconds later, it seems to be gone.

[umop-apisdn]

Some planets have odd atmospheric effects, especially during storms. Try starting another new game; it's possible you just got a weird starting planet.

[Larry]

Thanks for the response. Ya, that's what I kind of figured. Going to another planet should sort that out.

I'm having a whole wack of troubles with the new PC, so this was just one of many weird things. Camera is way over sensitive (even at Sensitivity: 1), and the mouse seems to be doing a tethered type movement, even though I disabled that. Practically unplayable, as the camera is oversensitive and acting like it's on a rubber band. It is most likely the KVM software, unfortunately...

[bigbadbedwetter]

That sounds like chromatic aberration which can be turned off in graphics settings.

[Larry]

I couldn't find that. Where is that at? I don't see it in Graphics or Camera.

[Mr. Bufferlow]

Some time the game will glitch out.

Here is an example of an actual intended chromatic effect on a planet (there are several schemes- the dark scheme is worst IMO).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2431001685

This an example of the game just glitching out and needing a reload. It is actually kind of a cool Tron effect, but usually the glitches are not this fortunate.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2972903327

[umop-apisdn]

Originally posted by Larry:

It is most likely the KVM software, unfortunately...

You might try streaming the gameplay from the "gaming PC" with Steam's "Remote Play" / "Steam Link" feature, instead of trying to game through KVM software; I have found that to work much better in my own setups.

[bigbadbedwetter]

Chromatic aberration used to have its own entry, but no longer. It's now lumped in with Camera/Vignette and Scanlines according to the post below.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/2254559285375182485/?l=portuguese&ctp=1#c2254559285381255017
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3137399699

[Larry]

Ooo.. this is getting interesting.

@Mr Bufferflow: Ya, the thing I was seeing literally looked like the it was doing a 3D anaglyph thing. Offset red on one side.. Offset blue on the other. But, ya, it could be chromatic, too. I'd explore it a bit more, but the chaotic controls I'm getting with the KVM are making it near unbearable. Lots of 'looking at the ground, spinning violently'. Very hairtrigger response, even at 1 sensitivity.

@umop-apisdn: Now I'm intrigued... Never really considered that. Barely even knew of it. You might be on to something there. The new PC is basically my gaming rig, but the KVM software I have been using up to now (successfully) just doesn't seem to like something about it. Getting stuff like games with both the Windows mouse pointer and the in-game pointer... either lagging behind each other, or badly misaligned and glitching.

My first person view type games (like NMS) either have chaotic, overly sensitive mouse control... often feeling like it's teathered or on an elastic band.

In those games, too, the windows mouse pointer is visible, and when it reaches the edge of the screen, you can't rotate your view any more. So, in some cases you can only turn like 45 degrees... in others, you can do a full 360 maybe twice, but then it hits the edge, and you can't turn... so even if you want to just turn 10 degrees more, you have to turn the other way (360) to get there 'the long way around'. Ya, that really sucks.

I even have a game where the mouse buttons work (I can fire), but the mouse movement doesn't do anything... so you face the same way the entire game.

Good grief...

I've tried posting to the KVM company, but so far no help.

I'm very curious about the remote thing... although I may hit a wall already. The 'host/main' PC is a Win7 PC (which is why I've moved my gaming onto the new PC)... so it may not work. Can't upgrade anything on the old PC.

But, I'll look into it. Main challenge here is sharing a keyboard, mouse, monitor AND speakers with 3 PCs... otherwise, I'd just get a second mouse and keyboard, and call it a day...

[Zak]

Look into multihost keyboards and mice maybe? I have a wireless Dell keyboard that supports three PCs: one with a USB dongle and two with Bluetooth. You switch between them with a key on the keyboard. I think there are multihost mice like that too, though I just have three mice, but just one kb. So maybe this is worth looking into?

However, my monitor has multiple inputs too so I don't really need a KVM. KVM has always been PITA with programmable gaming mice and they don't support GSYNC so I had to stop using them a long time ago.

[umop-apisdn]

Originally posted by Larry:

In those games, too, the windows mouse pointer is visible, and when it reaches the edge of the screen, you can't rotate your view any more. So, in some cases you can only turn like 45 degrees... in others, you can do a full 360 maybe twice, but then it hits the edge, and you can't turn... so even if you want to just turn 10 degrees more, you have to turn the other way (360) to get there 'the long way around'. Ya, that really sucks.

The KVM software is tracking the position of the mouse separately from the OS, and breaking mouse "capturing". Depending on the specific software you're using, you might be able to selectively disable that with a keybind or other configuration option.

Hope your google-fu is up to snuff. Good luck!

[wkitty42]

Originally posted by Larry:

Main challenge here is sharing a keyboard, mouse, monitor AND speakers with 3 PCs... otherwise, I'd just get a second mouse and keyboard, and call it a day...

i went with a dedicated mouse, keyboard, and controller for my gaming system... it is easier, safer, and has less headaches... especially since there's nothing else in the middle to goof things up...

if you're trying to share the speakers, too, those might should also be separate... then you can game and do other things at the same time... my workstations don't need near the audio capabilities that my gaming system needs so guess which system got the better sound system

[Larry]

Thanks for the info, guys. I've got 3 PCs... a main (internet/email), a work PC, and my new gaming one. No real room for multiple keyboards, etc.

I do have a flat screen TV beside the computer monitor, and so I can (do) have the gaming PC plugged into that (although the KVM does take care of K/V/M and audio all through a single Ethernet cable, which is already there... so, I do like that convenience, rather than tons of cables).

One option I can do, is take the KVM off the gaming PC, have the video of it on the flatscreen, attached a local mouse/keyboard on it, and I found out yesterday that I can also successfully hear the audio through that flatscreen. So, that IS an option. The only thing is, it's a shame that my gaming PC is the one that is going to run through the weak (easily resonating/low bass) speakers of the flatscreen, whereas my main PC gets the dedicated 'pro' speakers (where all I need on that is to be able to hear the email 'bell', and view vids. My main computer is OLD, so I don't think it has HDMI (if I remember right), so I can't do the same 'audio through monitor' trick with it. Meanwhile, my 'work' PC does need the good speakers, as I do editing and music with it.

Can't really add MORE (powered) hardware, as the electrical outlet I have is already well-occupied. And the cable/wire situation under the desk is unruly already.

I had previously used physical KVMs, but each one 'broke down' eventually... something they are apparently well-known to do. The software KVM I'm using (for many years now) is Multiplicity, and I was VERY happy with it before. It uses a single Ethernet cable to each PC (which already exists on my setup for the local networking), and takes care of K/V/M plus audio, all in that single cable. Window opens on the primary PC (which can go fullscreen), and you can instantly jump back and forth.

Doesn't seem to like my new PC, though. If you go to the Multiplicity KVM forum, you'll find my post named 'Multiple Issues (Non-Steam version), where I outline ALL the issues I'm experiencing currently.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1553290/discussions/0/6273017912357172191/

I'll check out the things you mentioned, too.

[umop-apisdn]

Originally posted by Larry:

it's a shame that my gaming PC is the one that is going to run through the weak (easily resonating/low bass) speakers of the flatscreen, whereas my main PC gets the dedicated 'pro' speakers (where all I need on that is to be able to hear the email 'bell', and view vids.

If you're streaming the game via Steam's built-in features, that becomes a non-issue; the audio, video, and inputs are all on the "local" machine, which (unless I miss my guess) would be your "work" rig?

Edited to clarify: when streaming, the GPU on the machine the game is installed on is the one being used; the audio and video are streamed across the LAN to the machine you're interacting with, which has its inputs streamed across the LAN to the machine where the game is installed.

Put another way, it's sort of like Geforce Now... but with the "datacenter" living on your LAN instead of having to bounce across the web to Dallas.

[Darth Cervantes]

unfortunately no 3d options
3D was awesome and never got its time in the spotlight thanks to stupid VR
I don't hate VR but its completely different than 3D and requires way more equipment than some light weight glasses
I really wish it would make a comeback. I Played the trine games and a few 3d ones like tomb raider in 3D and it was AWESOME

[Larry]

@Darth... weird, as I could have sworn it had 3D display options. Ah, well.

@umop-apisdn: Ya, I never really got familiar with Geforce Now or any of that. Couldn't even tell you what it is. Never looked into it. No, that streaming would be my main (weak) computer and the 'new' (gaming) one.

I had a nice (hardware) KVM pointed out to me, but it uses DVid cables, which I think two of my PCs don't support... Looks like I'll make my gaming rig a separate 'workstation', adding a local mouse/keyboard, and have the video go into my flatscreen TV. I found out the audio is sent through as well, so that sorts that out. Just not ideal speakers on the TV. But, at least there's audio.

I dug up an old audio/video mixer I've had for decades (from my university days), and will try wiring all the PCs audio into that, and then have a single stereo line going from that to my dedicated speakers. That should be a clean way to merge/share all the audio sources to a single set of speakers. Not wild about having yet another thing plugged into the wall outlet, but I must admit, the mixing board does add some cool factor to my setup, visually. Free solution, at least. I have to see if it still works. It's a Panasonic, so likely it will.

Got a few things solved so far, so at least there's been some progress. Thought I'd have to get a whole new video card (ka-CHING!!!), but I sorted that out. Little steps towards victory...