Wtf? I'm using portals and coordinates but the ships aren't there!

[Vangerdahast]

Hello guys!

I have watched and read some posts from NMS Coordinates Exchange, trying to get a S grade Sentinel Ship.

For the portals I already used. after reaching the given coordinates, the ships that were supposed to be there weren't. One thing I've noticed is that planet aestetics were different from the videos/posts, but the glyph sequences were correct. Also, the multiplayer was disabled.

Whats is going on here?

Thanks!

[lordoftheapes79]

was your multiplayer turned off BEFORE going to the system? It won't work if you turn it off after getting there and, if this is the case, you borked yourself out of those ones for awhile, so if you try again, you're gonna have to use different systems.

[Johnny in the Clouds]

Were you in the correct galaxy? There are 256 and all use the same portal codes but importantly the planet procedural bio-diversity and procedural spawns, will differ.

It is also possible some portal codes refer to planets in earlier iterations of the development of the game and some may have since changed. However, planet updates to spawns and terrain etc are less frequent.

In multi-play other players may have got to the crashed ships first and left with them. If however you return to the same systems while playing offline (or online) in solo play, crashed ships or multi-tools should spawn again. You do need to leave the system, visit another system and then return to the system you want, for the game to 'flush' the cache. Play the game for a while doing something else and return later in single player mode, preferably offline.

[Vangerdahast]

lordoftheapes79 eredeti hozzászólása:

was your multiplayer turned off BEFORE going to the system? It won't work if you turn it off after getting there and, if this is the case, you borked yourself out of those ones for awhile, so if you try again, you're gonna have to use different systems.

Yes, it was disabled before entering the portal. So, if you see the post or video 5, 10 days later, the shipd probably was picked by someone else?

[Grumpy Koala]

What difficulty settings are you on? Need to be Normal or above I think..

[Vangerdahast]

Johnny in the Clouds eredeti hozzászólása:

Were you in the correct galaxy? There are 256 and all use the same portal codes but importantly the planet procedural bi-diversity will differ.

It is also possible some portal codes refer to planets in earlier iterations of the development of the game and some may have since changed. Planet updates are less frequent however.

In multi-play other players may have got to the crashed ships first and left with them. If however you return to the same systems while playing offline (or online) in solo play crashed ships or multi-tools should spawn again. You do need to leave the system, visit another system and then return to the system you want, for the game to 'flush' the cache.

I'm in the same galaxy (Euclid) that the ship is. Its 018E:0088:066B:0131 its address, from signal booster, and I just verify the portal galactic address in https://nmsportals.github.io/.

You said that I should visit another system and come back later. Is there a counter/timer that I should look to?

[Vangerdahast]

Grumpy Koala eredeti hozzászólása:

What difficulty settings are you on? Need to be Normal or above I think..

I'm playing in Normal

[lordoftheapes79]

Johnny in the Clouds eredeti hozzászólása:

It is also possible some portal codes refer to planets in earlier iterations of the development of the game and some may have since changed. However, planet updates to spawns and terrain etc are less frequent.

He specifically said sentinel ships, so this definitely is NOT the case

[lordoftheapes79]

Vangerdahast eredeti hozzászólása:

lordoftheapes79 eredeti hozzászólása:

was your multiplayer turned off BEFORE going to the system? It won't work if you turn it off after getting there and, if this is the case, you borked yourself out of those ones for awhile, so if you try again, you're gonna have to use different systems.

Yes, it was disabled before entering the portal. So, if you see the post or video 5, 10 days later, the shipd probably was picked by someone else?

If it was turned off before entering the portal, then the ship should have been there.

The game saves a bunch of information that we don't necessarily need. For example, it saves the fact that you've been to planets and what you've scanned, waypoints you've visited, and yes crashed ship locations(and probably a ton of other stuff), but this kind of stuff is just for consistency. Thing is, there is soooo much of this stuff that(and this was a huge problem for the game really early on) your save file could eventually become bigger than the actual game file. So, instead, there's a cap on how much of this information it actually saves. When the cap is it, it deletes the oldest information first.

So, as this pertains to ship hunting, when you go to a system with multiplayer on, you automatically download all of the information already recorded for that system, previously recorded waypoints, found flora, fauna, and minerals etc... including previously claimed ships. Which would explain why the ship wasn't there, had your multiplayer been turned on when you first arrived in that system, but if you're sure it was off, then there's something else going on here.

Last point to make here, is that the Sentinel Ships are still new, there may be rules to them we don't know about yet.

[Vangerdahast]

Thanks for the replies guys! I will try to visit another system and come back

[Vangerdahast]

PS: if I create a base in the location and come back later, it will interfere with the respawn?

[Hazy_Memories]

try reloading your auto save if your not seeing a ship, i know that would happen sometimes when just getting any ship...and make sure your network is set to off in options that way someone else didn't snag the ship you were looking for...not sure if this will help after all the updates but good luck

[Captain Brendig]

Vangerdahast eredeti hozzászólása:

PS: if I create a base in the location and come back later, it will interfere with the respawn?

It's possible, but I have never tried that with ships. I do know from my own game play that something similar occurs when milking traveler graves for glyphs. Placing a base too close will cause the grave to never re-spawn, 350 U or so away and it will, maybe 3-5 times. Placing a save beacon close by had no effect.

So, in theory at least, placing a base just far enough away should allow the crash to re-spawn over time, assuming of course that you did not interact with anything at the site that would mark it as visited in your save.

Worth experimenting with, and if you do please post with your findings. Be patient and go explore, after a day or several visit again in SP mode. Good luck.

[Vangerdahast]

Hazy_Memories eredeti hozzászólása:

try reloading your auto save if your not seeing a ship, i know that would happen sometimes when just getting any ship...and make sure your network is set to off in options that way someone else didn't snag the ship you were looking for...not sure if this will help after all the updates but good luck

Captain Brendig eredeti hozzászólása:

Vangerdahast eredeti hozzászólása:

PS: if I create a base in the location and come back later, it will interfere with the respawn?

It's possible, but I have never tried that with ships. I do know from my own game play that something similar occurs when milking traveler graves for glyphs. Placing a base too close will cause the grave to never re-spawn, 350 U or so away and it will, maybe 3-5 times. Placing a save beacon close by had no effect.

So, in theory at least, placing a base just far enough away should allow the crash to re-spawn over time, assuming of course that you did not interact with anything at the site that would mark it as visited in your save.

Worth experimenting with, and if you do please post with your findings. Be patient and go explore, after a day or several visit again in SP mode. Good luck.

Well, I entered another portal and reached another ship coordinates, it wasn't there. I was offline BEFORE entering the portal, but I was online when I was inside the Anomaly, it downloaded data about the portal. Could be the culprit? I was enabling and disabling the network to spawn portals through the Anomaly

[Krash Megiddo]

I found a S-class sentinel ship this way. The site said it was Euclid, but it turned out to be in Eissentam instead.

[Vangerdahast]

Krash Megiddo eredeti hozzászólása:

I found a S-class sentinel ship this way. The site said it was Euclid, but it turned out to be in Eissentam instead.

How did you find that it was in other galaxy?