Would buying the Starborn Phoenix ship spoil my progression? (New player)

[Sterlander]

I think I can buy it from the Anomaly right now for 1800 nanites or something, which I can afford. The stats on it seem extremely good, it's S rank, and is miles better than my starter ship.

Should I get it? Or would buying it ruin my progression? I've seen people in other threads talk about getting emotionally attached to their ships, I don't wanna miss out on that possibly.

(Only have 10 hours at the moment)

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Sterlander:

I think I can buy it from the Anomaly right now for 1800 nanites or something, which I can afford. The stats on it seem extremely good, it's S rank, and is miles better than my starter ship.

Should I get it? Or would buying it ruin my progression? I've seen people in other threads talk about getting emotionally attached to their ships, I don't wanna miss out on that possibly.

(Only have 10 hours at the moment)

1. You can change your settings so that the costs are even less if you wish, then revert to default if you prefer.

2. It is a good ship, miles better than your starter ship. Also there are tons of other ships and varieties out there such as with sentinel ships from dissonant planets which can, potentially be found with some higher stats than the starborn phoenix AND have the chance to have 4 super charged slots together 4 squared, T, L, etc adjacency).

3. There's nothing to ruin your progression. You can and will progress the same whether you stick with the starter ship or get another one. Only differences will be in your speed/effectivity in some play goals. The game has linear elements to be sure but it is a game that pretty much lets you also ignore that and do as you please so its all ultimately a player's choice.

[smurfy]

Originally posted by Sterlander:

I think I can buy it from the Anomaly right now for 1800 nanites or something, which I can afford. The stats on it seem extremely good, it's S rank, and is miles better than my starter ship.

Should I get it? Or would buying it ruin my progression? I've seen people in other threads talk about getting emotionally attached to their ships, I don't wanna miss out on that possibly.

(Only have 10 hours at the moment)

I understand the quandry, but in terms of progression, it is possible to get a top tier S class crashed ship (normal wreck or Interceptor) for free with RNG within a couple of hours of normal play. It is probably more work to earn the 1600 nanites to claim the DLC award ship.

You can own 12 ships concurrently, so you can add it to your collection whenever you want.

[Jaggid Edje]

Yes, it would ruin your progression a little bit. You don't get a ship of that quality with as many goodies pre-installed right out of the gate in the game, no matter how lucky you are.

It's not just that the ship is S-class, which can happen right out of the gate if you're lucky. The preinstalled stuff on the Starborn Phoenix, though, is beyond what you can find at a crash site, and the ship doesn't need repairs, which also isn't the case for crash sites. So I have to disagree with @Smurfy's post above.

The question, of course, is whether or not that particular bit of progression even matters to you.

[CrazyMom]

I do not see why not for your first hours of play. Once familiar with a bit more game mechanics you can always restart a new game or just set it aside and not use it as a self imposed limit.
One aspect I do not know is if you fly around in a S-class ship at the beginning if this will trigger early Dreadnought Pirate battles.

[PAN]

also yes (imo) expedition ships are spoilers
Recommended 3 months blind vanilla play-through , before Y-tube / discord / reddit / etc
use your own gamer brain to 'figgur it oot' not uncle google
wandering a paradise beach shooting the water making chlorine thinking i was in the big money 'Lost in Space' ah those were the days :) nms no speed run to finish line , you have woken up with amnesia ..
The anomaly ship another option if it's going to nag u is claim & scrap it
remove mods or not (they are only mid S mods no photonix-core sadly)
scrap may give 50 mil ? roughly , you can then look what u like in standard ships at spacestations
even if u have claimed a expedition/anomaly ship on save u can claim them on (available) expedition & bring back later on , or just not worry & try that ship on alt/other save glhf.

[Foxglovez]

First time through, yeah, it's easy mode. What that means is you don't have to use those little grey cells to upgrade your ride and the learning curve is mashed down a bit. It's not a huge deal but like noted above, the thrill of the hunt is basically removed for ships which is kind of a shame. There's no need to test out how other ships work because that one is going to be just too easy to keep using. At some point you will see its disadvantages, like the super slots appear to be pretty spread out and you will get the urge to min/max but having that ship at the beginning means you have a lot more time before you will probably even think about ships. Without it, getting a decent ship really keeps you focused. But like with most of NMS, it's up to you and we all play NMS our own way. YMMV

[smurfy]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Yes, it would ruin your progression a little bit. You don't get a ship of that quality with as many goodies pre-installed right out of the gate in the game, no matter how lucky you are.

It's not just that the ship is S-class, which can happen right out of the gate if you're lucky. The preinstalled stuff on the Starborn Phoenix, though, is beyond what you can find at a crash site, and the ship doesn't need repairs, which also isn't the case for crash sites. So I have to disagree with @Smurfy's post above.

The question, of course, is whether or not that particular bit of progression even matters to you.

Interesting take.
Let's analyse that.
Starborn Phoenix
S Class preset SC slots
27 Tech slots unlocked
37 Cargo slots unlocked
A class Pulse Drive RNG upgrade = Approx 650 Nanites
A class Pulse Drive RNG upgrade = Approx 650 Nanites
S class Pulse Drive RNG upgrade = Approx 1000 Nanites
Phase Beam core tech = 150 Nanites
Fourier De-Limiter Phase Beam upgrade = 120 Nanites
Nonlinear Optics Photon Cannon upgrade = 75 Nanites
Launch Autocharger Launch Thrusters upgrade = 460 Nanites
Ablative Armour Shields upgrade = 85 Nanites
Golden Starship Trail = 800 Quicksilver
Atlas Figurine = 3,200 Quicksilver

Salvaged Interceptor (used for more direct comparison due to no slot repairs needed as you rightly mention for normal salvaged ships)
S class RNG with possibly better SC slot layout
23-28 Tech Slots unlocked
30-40 Cargo slots unlocked
1 to 3 upgrades pre-installed from:
Cargo Scan Deflector = 240 Nanites
Economy Scanner = 150 Nanites
Conflict Scanner = 150 Nanites
Phase Beam = 150 Nanites
Rocket Launcher = 150 Nanites
Teleport Receiver = ? nanites
C/B/A/S/X class Phase Beam RNG upgrade(s) = 120-1000 Nanites
Fourier De-Limiter Phase Beam upgrade = 120 Nanites

[Sterlander]

Isn't there also a whole ship building thing you can do? I wouldn't wanna miss out on that part either.

Really not sure if I should go through with buying it or not. Or maybe I should play the expedition or whatever to get the Iron ship? I'm really not sure what to do here.

[smurfy]

Originally posted by Sterlander:

Isn't there also a whole ship building thing you can do? I wouldn't wanna miss out on that part either.

Really not sure if I should go through with buying it or not. Or maybe I should play the expedition or whatever to get the Iron ship? I'm really not sure what to do here.

Shipbuilding is definitely not an early game activity.
You actually need to salvage parts from multiple (at least 3) other purchased or claimed salvage ships to be able to re-compile them into your own design.

Since you have unlocked the Phoenix, it will remain available for whenever you decide you want to claim it.

There really is no "should do" in NMS. You just do whatever entertains you.

Originally posted by CrazyMom:

I do not see why not for your first hours of play. Once familiar with a bit more game mechanics you can always restart a new game or just set it aside and not use it as a self imposed limit.
One aspect I do not know is if you fly around in a S-class ship at the beginning if this will trigger early Dreadnought Pirate battles.

No, starship ownership has no bearing on the Dreadnought event. You just need to own a Freighter for them to start appearing.

[Sterlander]

Originally posted by smurfy:

Originally posted by Sterlander:

Isn't there also a whole ship building thing you can do? I wouldn't wanna miss out on that part either.

Really not sure if I should go through with buying it or not. Or maybe I should play the expedition or whatever to get the Iron ship? I'm really not sure what to do here.

Shipbuilding is definitely not an early game activity.
You actually need to salvage parts from multiple (at least 3) other purchased or claimed salvage ships to be able to re-compile them into your own design.

Since you have unlocked it, it will remain available for whenever you decide you want to claim it.

There really is no "should do" in NMS. You just do whatever entertains you.

Originally posted by CrazyMom:

I do not see why not for your first hours of play. Once familiar with a bit more game mechanics you can always restart a new game or just set it aside and not use it as a self imposed limit.
One aspect I do not know is if you fly around in a S-class ship at the beginning if this will trigger early Dreadnought Pirate battles.

No, starship ownership has no bearing on the Dreadnought event. You just need to own a Freighter for them to start appearing.

... unrelated question, I just happened upon a Freighter thanks to me saving a fleet earlier. Do I have to start worrying about Dreadnought Pirates now?

Maybe I really should pick up the Starborn Phoenix, lol

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by smurfy:

Interesting take.
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The salvaged interceptor is not just a crash site. It's more difficult to find those specifically. Not massively more difficult, but there's more to it than a common crash site. Combined with the low odds of it being S-class, that's more than just a bit of luck.

But I do also think that the addition of interceptors does have the potential to ruin early game progression. It's unlikely to happen just through random luck, but it can.

So your example really just stated what I consider a near-equivalency. At least with the interceptor though the player can be super excited they had such great good fortune. It's a one in a million find for early-game-wasn't-really-looking-yet. That's not the case with a ship you just click to get.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Sterlander:

Isn't there also a whole ship building thing you can do? I wouldn't wanna miss out on that part either.

I wouldn't let that be a factor in your decision. You aren't going to do it in the early, early game, as @smurfy said, plus by the time you're doing that, your main reason isn't because you want a better ship, it's because you want a fully customized ship.

My main reason for using the ship builder is because I get to paint it....you don't get to do that with the Starborn Phoenix (or any other ship except one you build yourself).

Just as an example, the most recent ship I built for myself was a solar and I spent over 2 months (on and off) working on finding the specific parts that I needed to build it. That amount of time was largely because I was undecided on the wings, so I gathered a whole bunch of different wings so that I could compare, but even so...it wasn't an early-game type of endeavor.

Basically, by the time you're using the ship builder, you've already got a decent ship, perhaps more than one.

My brother bought NMS in the past week and the advice I gave him is the same as what @smurfy said in his last reply above. "Claim it on the Steam store, now, while it's free. But maybe wait to claim it game until you've got your legs under you more in the game itself. You're choice on that."

[smurfy]

Originally posted by Sterlander:

... unrelated question, I just happened upon a Freighter thanks to me saving a fleet earlier. Do I have to start worrying about Dreadnought Pirates now?

Maybe I really should pick up the Starborn Phoenix, lol

Freighter space rescues (a bunch of pirate freighters attacking a civilian freighter fleet) occur every 5 warps provided you have 3 hours in between Freighter encounters. You can claim the first rescued freighter for free.
After claiming or buying a Freighter, a Pirate Dreadnought freighter rescue can occur instead of the normal ones. This has a powerful Dreadnought attacking a civilian fleet and there are various results possible (trying not to spoil future content too much here).
However, there is also a chance that the Pirate Dreadnought event can occur every time in certain star systems, outside the 3 hour/5 warp criteria. So every warp from now on has the potential to have one for you.
You don't need high-powered ships to win any of these battles, but they help.
There is also no compulsion to engage in any encountered pirate rescue battle. You can just turn and head for the Space Station instead.

[VMVXMK2]

Originally posted by Sterlander:

Isn't there also a whole ship building thing you can do? I wouldn't wanna miss out on that part either.

Really not sure if I should go through with buying it or not. Or maybe I should play the expedition or whatever to get the Iron ship? I'm really not sure what to do here.

Yo man. If you are doing the expedition, remember that the iron ship can also be claimed at the Quicksilver guy, independent to the one you get DURING the expedition. Meaning you can get TWO iron ship.

I realize that after I throw away the A class sentinel ship I wanted to keep. Don't be like me.
-sob-

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Sterlander:

Isn't there also a whole ship building thing you can do? I wouldn't wanna miss out on that part either.

Really not sure if I should go through with buying it or not. Or maybe I should play the expedition or whatever to get the Iron ship? I'm really not sure what to do here.

Again, you're not missing out. You can own multiple ships in the game.

Ship building has limitations though and you need to have scrapped previous ships(many) in order to procure 1 part each per scrapped ship to combine into a ship of your build part choices. Additionally, each space station has different super charged slot position results depending on the engine class selected as well.

There are lots of ytube resources on ship building, sentinel, freighter(like where to get good freighters from what systems etc.


Your intense fear on "missing out" on virtually anything is really just misplaced.