this game runs poorly

[JerryTheCultist]

i have well over the minimum requirements, and going off what im reading in the graphics settings

despite this the game keeps running worse everytime i start it up, i slowly keep turning down graphics settings and it continues to grow worse

doesnt matter if im in space, in a space station, or on a planet with no weather effects and nothing but plains, the FPS continues to drop

im not someone playing at 4k ultra or some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, im on medium to high and all i want is a steady'ish 60

[cogvos]

It would help if you listed your PC specs, so CPU, GPU, memory, Windows and version or MAC and version of OSX or Linux and distribution.

What happens when you run the game? Is it ok for a while and then looses fps, or is it just low all the time? What fps are you getting?

I'm assuming you are running the game flat screen and not vr, so are your running 1440, or 1080? Do you have HDR on or off?

Finally IS NMS installed on a SSD, Nvme or spinning disk and are you using any mods?

[JerryTheCultist]

Originally posted by cogvos:

It would help if you listed your PC specs, so CPU, GPU, memory, Windows and version or MAC and version of OSX or Linux and distribution.

What happens when you run the game? Is it ok for a while and then looses fps, or is it just low all the time? What fps are you getting?

I'm assuming you are running the game flat screen and not vr, so are your running 1440, or 1080? Do you have HDR on or off?

Finally IS NMS installed on a SSD, Nvme or spinning disk and are you using any mods?

it started out fine, with drops only happening after an hour or 2 (still bad), or if i went to a planet with alot of weather effects
but now its anytime i boot the game regardless of where or why, and it doesnt stabilize overtime, it just gets worse

i dont know what exact FPS im getting but its inconsistent and definitely not smooth

Windows 10, 1080 monitor, AMD ryzen 7 3700X 8core, 32gbs ddr4 ram, Radeon RX580 8gbs vram, its on a hard drive

no im not using mods, its fully basegame, and no im not running in VR

[JerryTheCultist]

Originally posted by JerryTheCultist:

Originally posted by cogvos:

It would help if you listed your PC specs, so CPU, GPU, memory, Windows and version or MAC and version of OSX or Linux and distribution.

What happens when you run the game? Is it ok for a while and then looses fps, or is it just low all the time? What fps are you getting?

I'm assuming you are running the game flat screen and not vr, so are your running 1440, or 1080? Do you have HDR on or off?

Finally IS NMS installed on a SSD, Nvme or spinning disk and are you using any mods?

it started out fine, with drops only happening after an hour or 2 (still bad), or if i went to a planet with alot of weather effects
but now its anytime i boot the game regardless of where or why, and it doesnt stabilize overtime, it just gets worse

i dont know what exact FPS im getting but its inconsistent and definitely not smooth

Windows 10, 1080 monitor, AMD ryzen 7 3700X 8core, 32gbs ddr4 ram, Radeon RX580 8gbs vram, its on a hard drive

no im not using mods, its fully basegame, and no im not running in VR

booted to check, HDR is off, all settings are between enhanced or high, with most other advanced settings left on whatever they defaulted to

[zombygunner]

Oh let me try one of my favs...have you tried restarting your pc ha ha ha i love that its so dumb to even say lol.

[Ozwald]

The RX 580 isn't that much better than the minimum RX 470. I'm surprised you have settings on high at all.

They also list a UHD 630 as a minimum spec which will barely run the game if at all. My day to day laptop has a 630 & better than all minimum specs & it won't even boot up the game. The minimum specs are a little far fetched.

They also list a 1060 3GB as a minimum & since W2 that can barely run the game on minimum settings at 30fps. I just upgraded from that exact card 2 days ago.

[JerryTheCultist]

Originally posted by Ozwald:

The RX 580 isn't that much better than the minimum RX 470. I'm surprised you have settings on high at all.

They also list a UHD 630 as a minimum spec which will barely run the game if at all. My day to day laptop has a 630 & better than all minimum specs & it won't even boot up the game. The minimum specs are a little far fetched.

They also list a 1060 3GB as a minimum & since W2 that can barely run the game on minimum settings at 30fps. I just upgraded from that exact card 2 days ago.

this 580 runs newer games at better frame rates then this, and it was running fine a few days ago

as well as the fact the settings *suggested* high by default for my PC, ive had friends run similar strength PCs and its just fine

[CatPerson]

Originally posted by JerryTheCultist:

runs newer games at better frame rates then this

this means nothing, technically speaking, re: troubleshooting - different games are different blah blah blah.
As well as, any driver updates could changes things (reinstall). A Windows update can change things. Some software you installed recently could change things for some kooky reason. Some program you used/closed maybe didn't properly shutdown (check taskmanager to make sure it's not still in there), all sorts of stuff.

Originally posted by JerryTheCultist:

it started out fine, with drops only happening after an hour or 2 (still bad), or if i went to a planet with alot of weather effects
but now its anytime i boot the game regardless of where or why, and it doesnt stabilize overtime, it just gets worse

I know little re: AMD gpu's but if what the person above said is true and it's not too much over min. requirements, if you haven't already, try:

Shadow Quality - Enhanced - you'll probably barely notice any difference
Post Processing - Enhanced - I barely notice a difference, I suppose there's less storm particles (EDIT: Volumetric Effects doesn't seem all that in this game, either, but that's just me)
Terrain Tessellation - Standard-Off or Enhanced (8gb vram considerations, NMS has become kind of a vram-hog)
Anisoptropic Filtering = 4 at most - you'll barely notice
GTAO - Enhanced or Off - I personally like the generally more contrasty look of occlusion but it is heavier on gpu's

Game will still look pretty good, if most other things are High.

[JerryTheCultist]

Originally posted by CatPerson:

Originally posted by JerryTheCultist:

runs newer games at better frame rates then this

this means nothing, technically speaking, re: troubleshooting - different games are different blah blah blah.
As well as, any driver updates could changes things (reinstall). A Windows update can change things. Some software you installed recently could change things for some kooky reason. Some program you used/closed maybe didn't properly shutdown (check taskmanager to make sure it's not still in there), all sorts of stuff.

Originally posted by JerryTheCultist:

it started out fine, with drops only happening after an hour or 2 (still bad), or if i went to a planet with alot of weather effects
but now its anytime i boot the game regardless of where or why, and it doesnt stabilize overtime, it just gets worse

I know little re: AMD gpu's but if what the person above said is true and it's not too much over min. requirements, if you haven't already, try:

Shadow Quality - Enhanced - you'll probably barely notice any difference
Post Processing - Enhanced - I barely notice a difference, I suppose there's less storm particles
Terrain Tessellation - Standard-Off or Enhanced (8gb vram considerations, NMS has become kind of a vram-hog)
Anisoptropic Filtering = 4 at most - you'll barely notice
GTAO - Enhanced or Off - I personally like the generally more contrasty look of occlusion but it is heavier on gpu's

Game will still look pretty good, if most other things are High.

i believe i have most of those set to enhanced BUT ill take a peek next time i open it and try tweaking settings based on what you said

ill let you know how it goes

[CatPerson]

I don't have a current uber gpu (2080ti) and I *do* play at 4k - and all the graphic and other improvements they made with Worlds/Worlds2 definitely increased performance demands a bit. I've had to tweak settings somewhat to compensate, mysel. It all looks nice but it may/does affect players with lower spec hardware, sadly. :/

A game's original release date doesn't always indicate current state of performance demand, if it's still being constantly updated/altered. Which NMS is. Seems to be getting more VRAM and CPU heavy.

[Mr.Laggy]

i dunno why it does this too you i basically have the same setup as you besides, a 3060 12 gigs vram and a 2k curved screen also i have a ryzen 3900x 12 core ,maybe that's the difference.

[Ozwald]

Originally posted by Mr.Laggy:

i dunno why it does this too you i basically have the same setup as you besides, a 3060 12 gigs vram and a 2k curved screen also i have a ryzen 3900x 12 core ,maybe that's the difference.

A 3060 12gb is WAY WAY more powerful than the RX 580.

OP has an underpowered computer trying to run a heavy game at way too high of settings.

[JerryTheCultist]

Originally posted by Ozwald:

Originally posted by Mr.Laggy:

i dunno why it does this too you i basically have the same setup as you besides, a 3060 12 gigs vram and a 2k curved screen also i have a ryzen 3900x 12 core ,maybe that's the difference.

A 3060 12gb is WAY WAY more powerful than the RX 580.

OP has an underpowered computer trying to run a heavy game at way too high of settings.

no i dont, and the 580 is alot stronger then you give it credit for
but your not quite helpful so im gonna just apply what the other people said and see how that goes later

[CatPerson]

Originally posted by JerryTheCultist:

the 580 is alot stronger then you give it credit for

That may be true in some ways but its overall benchmarks/rating (I google'd a bit) aren't great vs. mine or the 3060. Its price vs performance was good for back then tho.

If the gpu is actually the main thing holding things back, you might have to drop a few more Highs to Enhanced, like Water/Reflection quality, maybe draw distance related settings and so on.

[cogvos]

Ok, not knowing anything about the RX580 I wandered over to the Gamer's Nexus website. Here is a comparison of the RX580 and the NVIDIA 1060 SSC. Importantly the charts also show things like the NVIDIA 1080.
> https://gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2882-msi-rx-580-gaming-x-review-vs-gtx-1060 <

The 580 and 1060 trade blows throughout, my card the 6gb 1060 is also listed and is generally higher in the charts.

Now lets flip to a more modern chart set, this is one for the NVIDIA 2070, the RX 580 is still on some of them so you can see the increase in performance over the intervening years. They don't even bother with my 1060 in these, but the 1080 is still there.
> https://gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3377-evga-rtx-2070-black-review-overclocking-fps-temperature-noise <

What I'm trying to get at is that your, and my card, are now under-powered compared to more modern ones. I don't think that Hello Games have updated the system requirements for a while, but the two worlds updates have put a strain on things.

Right now there is also vram memory leak in the game. For me it means that the game will tank its fps after around half an hour, depending on what I am doing and I have to restart. Your card has more ram so this may be less of an issue but its still there.

You can find out your fps via steam: Click, Steam, settings and then in game followed by the fps drop down and turn that on. I don't know how accurate it is, but for comparison I get 90 fps in space, 62 or so on planets and around 70 in space stations - that is until it tanks to 10 or so after half an hour. I'm running mainly high settings.

[JerryTheCultist]

Originally posted by cogvos:

Ok, not knowing anything about the RX580 I wandered over to the Gamer's Nexus website. Here is a comparison of the RX580 and the NVIDIA 1060 SSC. Importantly the charts also show things like the NVIDIA 1080.
> https://gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2882-msi-rx-580-gaming-x-review-vs-gtx-1060 <

The 580 and 1060 trade blows throughout, my card the 6gb 1060 is also listed and is generally higher in the charts.

Now lets flip to a more modern chart set, this is one for the NVIDIA 2070, the RX 580 is still on some of them so you can see the increase in performance over the intervening years. They don't even bother with my 1060 in these, but the 1080 is still there.
> https://gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3377-evga-rtx-2070-black-review-overclocking-fps-temperature-noise <

What I'm trying to get at is that your, and my card, are now under-powered compared to more modern ones. I don't think that Hello Games have updated the system requirements for a while, but the two worlds updates have put a strain on things.

Right now there is also vram memory leak in the game. For me it means that the game will tank its fps after around half an hour, depending on what I am doing and I have to restart. Your card has more ram so this may be less of an issue but its still there.

You can find out your fps via steam: Click, Steam, settings and then in game followed by the fps drop down and turn that on. I don't know how accurate it is, but for comparison I get 90 fps in space, 62 or so on planets and around 70 in space stations - that is until it tanks to 10 or so after half an hour. I'm running mainly high settings.

sounds to me more like they botched an update, which explains alot