Help me understand harmonic camp cabinets :)

[AirSniffer]

Hello, I have been trying to find an S class sentinel rifle for hours now. I only jumped to either 3 star economy OR pirate systems but the highest I've seen so far was a B class.
Surely there is useful knowledge about how to actually "farm" a specific MT but even after reading through many posts about MT mechanics I am still clueless as to how harmonic camps work.

What I noticed:

It seems there can only be 1 type of skin + class for each planet you visit. Even after reloading different saves and using multiple echo locaters to switch the harmonic camp on the planet, the only thing that changed from the MT was the name. This is in contrast to farming sentinel ships, where if you claim one ship and use the same camp to locate another crash site the ship's class can actually change.

Any help is appreciated :)

[Spocks Toupee]

Yes, only ONE type of Sentinel Ship, and MultiTool, per system. So if you want to see different types. you need to go to another system.

Also remember, you can UPGRADE your Ship and/or MultiTool's Class, so don't skip over a C, B or A class, in your search for an "S" class

[AirSniffer]

Originally posted by Spocks Toupee:

Yes, only ONE type of Sentinel Ship, and MultiTool, per system. So if you want to see different types. you need to go to another system.

Also remember, you can UPGRADE your Ship and/or MultiTool's Class, so don't skip over a C, B or A class, in your search for an "S" class

Thanks for your reply. I know about the ability to upgrade a class but aren't there innate class bonuses which you cannot get by upgrading? Also, if I have a A class rifle with 3 SC slot and were to upgrade it to S class, do I get another SC slot randomly?

[Ozwald]

Originally posted by AirSniffer:

Originally posted by Spocks Toupee:

Yes, only ONE type of Sentinel Ship, and MultiTool, per system. So if you want to see different types. you need to go to another system.

Also remember, you can UPGRADE your Ship and/or MultiTool's Class, so don't skip over a C, B or A class, in your search for an "S" class

Thanks for your reply. I know about the ability to upgrade a class but aren't there innate class bonuses which you cannot get by upgrading? Also, if I have a A class rifle with 3 SC slot and were to upgrade it to S class, do I get another SC slot randomly?

A "natural S-class" is not always better than a "natural A class".

I should have taken a screenshot, but I was running an alt through They Who Have Returned. I had no need of a tool or ship, but I was checking them out regardless.

Any time a camp had that V-6 tool, I'd see if it was better than the one I already had to swap it. I found an A-class that was at the bottom of the range while I had a high ranking B-class. The difference was insane. Something like 1200ish dmg on the B & 400 on the A. I don't remember exact numbers, but the point is that the B was vastly superior to the A.

Point is, there's nothing special about a natural class vs something that's leveled up. There's a huge overlap in classes of all sorts & the RNG gods may just shine in your favor from time to time. Allegedly.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Spocks Toupee:

Yes, only ONE type of Sentinel Ship, and MultiTool, per system. So if you want to see different types. you need to go to another system.

Wish I knew. This sooner... At least I got an S class

Also remember, you can UPGRADE your Ship and/or MultiTool's Class, so don't skip over a C, B or A class, in your search for an "S" class

but MultiTool class upgrades are absurdly expensive, up to 50,000 nanites iirc. At least go for an A

[Rexxer]

Always check specs in detail as the Class (C,B,A,S) is only an approximate guide to specs and there's a lot of overlap among MTs. Using a car metaphor, an S class Nissan Versa with the most upgrades isn't going to outperform the most basic Class C Lamborghini. So go look for your Lambo. In general, "alien" designs that are not the usual Gek-Korvax-Vykeen styles, will often have tremendous damage specs ... they usually look exotic and interesting also. There used to be address directories which people would post here and on guide sites showing (ie. exact addresses) where there are S-class MT's of all sorts. The Sentinel stuff is fairly new so it may not have as much coverage, but from what I have seen, its' not much better than the old high damage alien tech.

[Shadow Strider]

Originally posted by Spocks Toupee:

Yes, only ONE type of Sentinel Ship, and MultiTool, per system. So if you want to see different types. you need to go to another system.

Also remember, you can UPGRADE your Ship and/or MultiTool's Class, so don't skip over a C, B or A class, in your search for an "S" class

although ships only have one skin per system, this is not true for MTs.
You can save scum for a chance at it being the other type (pistol/rifle)

[Foxglovez]

What's the difference between flameborn and reforged? I always seem to like flameborn better for weapon and maneuverability but don't see info anywhere on the differences.

[Shadow Strider]

Originally posted by Foxglovez:

What's the difference between flameborn and reforged? I always seem to like flameborn better for weapon and maneuverability but don't see info anywhere on the differences.

I don't think there is a difference, they are just rng names, and sometimes it changes after claiming the ship