Just started playing, crashes after 10 mins, 4090 + 9800X3D

[Bidder]

Fresh install, just started a normal game, after 5-15mins it crashes constantly.
I have tried a few different graphics settings and they have all failed so far.
I have updated BIOS to latest, Nvidia drivers to latest, windows 11 to latest(24H2)
Event viewer has no events.
Possibly always crashes when I am using the multi tool to extract minerals, but maybe not

Link to crash file
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sfzh8kkyl0rmoe3zd9rw5/NMS_crash_1735001786_134078_0x1561358_ST76561198041451225.dmp?rlkey=ztoptz3zre2r1q1ch4uq04h3m&st=9120ndi2&dl=0

The code I am given in the crash message
134078_0x1561358_ST76561198041451225

[JK_Original]

Expect many stutters too. Game is not optimized with Unreal Engine 5 being partly to blame. Epic needs to stop focusing on a that fortnite kiddie game and their tiny game platform and get a good engine in the works again

[Bidder]

Originally posted by JK_Original:

Unreal Engine 5 being partly to blame

huh? isn't this an 8 year old game running the vulcan engine?
runs smooth when running, but then crashes with a message and returns to desktop.
I just a 30min session, then the crash, other times it will crash in less than a minute

[Bidder]

I analysed the dmp file and it says there is an interesting exception:
access violation - code c0000005 (first/second chance not available)
This seems to indicate some memory instability. I have disabled EXPO and trying again

[JK_Original]

I don't know why I was thinking UE5, probably because I'm playing Talos Principle 2 and a couple other games that have the usual UE5 frame hitching from how textures and shaders get loaded by the engine...compiling, basically what this engine suffers from too

For the crashes, have you tried verifying the integrity of files in Steam?

[Bidder]

Originally posted by JK_Original:

For the crashes, have you tried verifying the integrity of files in Steam?

Yes, validated, also tried full uninstall and reinstall.

[Kuma]

Memory instability is a big thing even more if you are running DDR5.

It is recommended to check your Bios QVL to know what memories have been tested with it, but even then you could just have been unlucky in the silicon lottery and you might have to disable overclocking or even underclock it to keep your system stable.

[Musashi]

Originally posted by Bidder:

Fresh install, just started a normal game, after 5-15mins it crashes constantly.
I have tried a few different graphics settings and they have all failed so far.
I have updated BIOS to latest, Nvidia drivers to latest, windows 11 to latest(24H2)
Event viewer has no events.
Possibly always crashes when I am using the multi tool to extract minerals, but maybe not

Link to crash file
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sfzh8kkyl0rmoe3zd9rw5/NMS_crash_1735001786_134078_0x1561358_ST76561198041451225.dmp?rlkey=ztoptz3zre2r1q1ch4uq04h3m&st=9120ndi2&dl=0

The code I am given in the crash message
134078_0x1561358_ST76561198041451225

Uninstall your outdated version of OBS
Restart your PC and make sure this folder is gone : C:\ProgramData\obs-studio-hook

Next disable in Steam GAME RECORDING
Same for Nvidia App .. disable in Settings all Overlays

[Bidder]

Originally posted by Musashi:

Uninstall your outdated version of OBS
Restart your PC and make sure this folder is gone : C:\ProgramData\obs-studio-hook
Next disable in Steam GAME RECORDING
Same for Nvidia App .. disable in Settings all Overlays

Thanks for the tips, much appreciated.
I never installed OBS, but looks like it came with riva tuner(MSI after burner) at some point, removed all evidence of both and restarted.
Steam recording was already off.
Nvidia app has never been installed, just drivers and control center.
I don't have any other screen recorders installed that I know of.

After all this, it still crashed the same way after a few mins, heres the dmp:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tc71vo4bf5iaje50qwmll/NMS_crash_1735029381_134078_0x15225ED_ST76561198041451225.dmp?rlkey=rk6vlftdqkyaenjwnb18wihct&st=kpp7td4i&dl=0

[Bidder]

Originally posted by Kuma:

It is recommended to check your Bios QVL

My RAM kit was on the QVL list and is just 6000CL30, which I have currently running at non EXPO speeds, 4800CL40 just to eliminate it as a factor.

[Musashi]

Originally posted by Bidder:

Originally posted by Musashi:

Uninstall your outdated version of OBS
Restart your PC and make sure this folder is gone : C:\ProgramData\obs-studio-hook
Next disable in Steam GAME RECORDING
Same for Nvidia App .. disable in Settings all Overlays

Thanks for the tips, much appreciated.
I never installed OBS, but looks like it came with riva tuner(MSI after burner) at some point, removed all evidence of both and restarted.
Steam recording was already off.
Nvidia app has never been installed, just drivers and control center.
I don't have any other screen recorders installed that I know of.

After all this, it still crashed the same way after a few mins, heres the dmp:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tc71vo4bf5iaje50qwmll/NMS_crash_1735029381_134078_0x15225ED_ST76561198041451225.dmp?rlkey=rk6vlftdqkyaenjwnb18wihct&st=kpp7td4i&dl=0

Ok OBS is gone now
I know that MSI Afterburner makes sometimes problem

Could you post the content of your TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML (just open it with notepad and copy&paste it)
That file is in \steamapps\common\No Man's Sky\Binaries\Settings

[Bidder]

Originally posted by Musashi:

Could you post the content of your TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML

Merry Christmas!


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Data template="TkGraphicsSettings">
<Property name="Version" value="9" />
<Property name="FullScreen" value="true" />
<Property name="Borderless" value="false" />
<Property name="Monitor" value="0" />
<Property name="MonitorNames">
<Property name="MonitorNames" value="0|NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090|Generic PnP Monitor" />
</Property>
<Property name="ResolutionWidth" value="3840" />
<Property name="ResolutionHeight" value="2160" />
<Property name="ResolutionScale" value="1.000000" />
<Property name="RetinaScaleIOS" value="1.000000" />
<Property name="VsyncEx" value="On" />
<Property name="GraphicsDetail" value="TkGraphicsDetailPreset.xml">
<Property name="TextureQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="AnimationQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="ShadowQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="PostProcessingEffects" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="ReflectionsQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="VolumetricsQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="TerrainTessellation" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="PlanetQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="WaterQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="BaseQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="DynamicResScalingSettings" value="TkDynamicResScalingSettings.xml" />
<Property name="AmbientOcclusion" value="GTAO_Ultra" />
<Property name="AnisotropyLevel" value="8" />
<Property name="DLSSQuality" value="MaxQuality" />
<Property name="NVIDIAReflexLowLatency" value="Off" />
<Property name="AntiAliasing" value="DLSS" />
<Property name="UIQuality" value="4K" />
</Property>
<Property name="MotionBlurStrength" value="0.000000" />
<Property name="VignetteAndScanlines" value="true" />
<Property name="FoVOnFoot" value="75.000000" />
<Property name="FoVInShip" value="75.000000" />
<Property name="Brightness" value="50" />
<Property name="MaxframeRate" value="60" />
<Property name="NumHighThreads" value="12" />
<Property name="NumLowThreads" value="12" />
<Property name="TextureStreamingVk" value="Auto" />
<Property name="ShowRequirementsWarnings" value="true" />
<Property name="RemoveBaseBuildingRestrictions" value="false" />
<Property name="MouseClickSpeedMultiplier" value="0.500000" />
<Property name="UseTerrainTextureCache" value="false" />
<Property name="UseArbSparseTexture" value="false" />
<Property name="HDRMode" value="HDR1000" />
<Property name="AdapterName" value="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090" />
<Property name="AdapterIndex" value="0" />
<Property name="NumGraphicsThreadsBeta" value="3" />
</Data>

[Mitrovarr]

My guess is either you are trying to run your RAM too fast or you don't have enough PSU to run that absolute monster of a system (keep in mind that a PSU that's failing might be providing less than the rated power). It sounds like a brand new system, so overshooting the actual achievable RAM overclock seems likely.

Easy thing to check, turn off your DOCP or XMP profile and see if the crashes continue. If they don't, you had your RAM up too high. Not all configurations can achieve rated speeds.

[Musashi]

Originally posted by Bidder:

Originally posted by Musashi:

Could you post the content of your TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML

Merry Christmas!


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Data template="TkGraphicsSettings">
<Property name="Version" value="9" />
<Property name="FullScreen" value="true" />
<Property name="Borderless" value="false" />
<Property name="Monitor" value="0" />
<Property name="MonitorNames">
<Property name="MonitorNames" value="0|NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090|Generic PnP Monitor" />
</Property>
<Property name="ResolutionWidth" value="3840" />
<Property name="ResolutionHeight" value="2160" />
<Property name="ResolutionScale" value="1.000000" />
<Property name="RetinaScaleIOS" value="1.000000" />
<Property name="VsyncEx" value="On" />
<Property name="GraphicsDetail" value="TkGraphicsDetailPreset.xml">
<Property name="TextureQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="AnimationQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="ShadowQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="PostProcessingEffects" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="ReflectionsQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="VolumetricsQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="TerrainTessellation" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="PlanetQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="WaterQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="BaseQuality" value="TkGraphicsDetailTypes.xml">
<Property name="GraphicDetail" value="Ultra" />
</Property>
<Property name="DynamicResScalingSettings" value="TkDynamicResScalingSettings.xml" />
<Property name="AmbientOcclusion" value="GTAO_Ultra" />
<Property name="AnisotropyLevel" value="8" />
<Property name="DLSSQuality" value="MaxQuality" />
<Property name="NVIDIAReflexLowLatency" value="Off" />
<Property name="AntiAliasing" value="DLSS" />
<Property name="UIQuality" value="4K" />
</Property>
<Property name="MotionBlurStrength" value="0.000000" />
<Property name="VignetteAndScanlines" value="true" />
<Property name="FoVOnFoot" value="75.000000" />
<Property name="FoVInShip" value="75.000000" />
<Property name="Brightness" value="50" />
<Property name="MaxframeRate" value="60" />
<Property name="NumHighThreads" value="12" />
<Property name="NumLowThreads" value="12" />
<Property name="TextureStreamingVk" value="Auto" />
<Property name="ShowRequirementsWarnings" value="true" />
<Property name="RemoveBaseBuildingRestrictions" value="false" />
<Property name="MouseClickSpeedMultiplier" value="0.500000" />
<Property name="UseTerrainTextureCache" value="false" />
<Property name="UseArbSparseTexture" value="false" />
<Property name="HDRMode" value="HDR1000" />
<Property name="AdapterName" value="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090" />
<Property name="AdapterIndex" value="0" />
<Property name="NumGraphicsThreadsBeta" value="3" />
</Data>

Merry Christmass ;)
Nothing wrong with your settings...

You may do a clean GPU driver installation ... including the NVIDIA App .. that doesnt make trouble.. have it always installed but disabled all Overlays...


https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10/~/geforce-experience-driver-installation-failed.-how-do-i-manually-clean-install

[Bidder]

Originally posted by Mitrovarr:

you don't have enough PSU to run that absolute monster of a system.

turn off your DOCP or XMP profile and see if the crashes continue

It’s a 1300w platinum rated PSU that happily supplies 1kw in other games, this game when running is only 400w total.

I also suspected RAM, so turned off EXPO so it runs slow, no difference, still crashes.

[Bidder]

Originally posted by Musashi:

Nothing wrong with your settings...

You may do a clean GPU driver installation ... including the NVIDIA App .. that doesnt make trouble.. have it always installed but disabled all Overlays...

I tried a clean install of drivers already, last thing I can try is ddu install I suspose.

I even tried running it in default graphics settings which is really low resolution etc and it still crashed