Help needed With Mineral Extractors

[luk335]

I've set up 100 mineral extractors centered on an A class gold deposit. When I turned them on I expected to get around 20 thousand gold per hour (since each extractor makes an average of 200 per hour) that I could then sell for a passive source of units, however my network had an extraction rate of 2,442 per hour. In my troubleshooting I discovered a mechanic I didn't know about that caused diminishing returns on mineral extractors, so i attempted to split the system into ten different networks of supply pipes and test it again. Once again when I turned It on it was making 2,442 per hour, but i thought that was the amount being made in each of the ten supply pipe networks. When a cycle was completed the usual 250 gold was produced and I removed it from what should have been one of the networks, but when I checked the other networks there was no gold in them, as if all the extractors were still in one network of supply pipes, which would also explain the numbers being the same. I checked and there were ten different sets of supply pipes with no connections between any of them. To be absolutely sure about this I destroyed one of the extractors (to remove any possible connections to any supply pipes) and rebuilt it. I connected it to power and it said it was producing the expected 200 gold per hour. Then I turned on the other 99 extractors and this single extractor which shouldn't have been connected to any supply pipes said it was making 2,442 just like the rest of the network. On top of that this extractor, which once again has no supply pipe connections, had 30,000 storage. At the same time the other 99 extractors, which were still in sets of ten with no supply pipe connections between those sets, said the same thing in their menu. I have tried restarting my game and that didn't fix the issue.
Does anyone know why this is happening or how I could fix it? Or maybe there is another mechanic with extractors I don't know about? Or could I be doing something wrong that's causing this? I've searched to see if anyone else had experienced the same thing and I couldn't find anything on it so any help would be greatly appreciated!

[jit]

i aint reading all that

[s.turner3030]

I had something similar happen, though not on this scale, I had 8 storage units, four connected to two indium extractors and four connected to oxygen extractors, when checking to make sure things were working, four of them showed as storing indium, the other four even though not connected to the other showed as storing well nothing, but with an error of something like pipeline over capacity.

In the end after a couple of hours of messing around, and not sorting it out, I ended up deleting all the storage containers, building four and connecting them to the indium extractors, checking and making sure that they were all showing the correct item to store then building the other four storage and connecting them to the oxygen extractors and finding out that they now showed they were storing oxygen, no idea what was wrong with things and annoying as hell to say the least.

What you may end up doing is deleting all your storage, building some new ones connecting that cluster of storage to its extractors, make sure it is working, then build the next cluster of storage and connect it to its extractors, rinse and repeat.

[=EGC= Cord]

it is worth a read

but I first did a copy and paste into the new Apple AI and asked for a summary

it said WOW and "user is seeking help on this unexpected behavior"

was not sure how World of Warcraft fits in here
but after more reading is seems wow can also be " wall of words "

I think the extractor needs more cooling fans and extra lead shielding.

[SlinkyTheDrunk]

just a wild guess, but you may have a cap on how much you can pump from one 'chunk' of the game at a time. i have a moon base that just pumps a few minerals and it seems kinda iffy on how much and when.

[dreamrider]

Extractors on a single deposit do not all produce the same amount.
The max production value of the deposit, and of each extractor, falls off as you move outward from the center of the deposit.

You may simply have more than enough extractors to fully exploit the deposit each turn.
Especially if the extractors are only clustered horizontally and none are stacked vertically.

If I were you, I would delete all extractors except one, at the very center of your deposit. Get that one working and flowing to your remote Storage Depot.
Then experiment with adding additional extractors one at a time around the linchpin extractor. Get each one working. See what the output from each.

[mystikmind2005]

I usually only put 1 extractor per hotspot, but heaps of storage to just over 10000

When you get busy doing other things, it gets full in what feels like no time at all.

[Jaggid Edje]

There is currently something bugged with how it is reporting the rate of extraction for a network. It isn't reporting the correct total when you have multiple extractors hooked up to the same network.

I have one network with just 2 extractors, for example. They are different hotspots but all connect to the same silo network and what it reports is just the rate of a single one of those two extractors.

Right now the only way to be sure you're getting the correct rate is to view each extractor and add them up.

[Shadow Strider]

Originally posted by dreamrider:

Extractors on a single deposit do not all produce the same amount.
The max production value of the deposit, and of each extractor, falls off as you move outward from the center of the deposit.

They can if you use wire glitch to place them all on the exact same spot...
I often do this to reduce the footprint, but I typically only use 2-3 extractors, but you could put 100 if you felt like it... (sounds like massive overkill though)
A side bonus of this method is that all their electricity and pipe connections are layered over each other, so you just need one of each connection to connect them all

100 extractors sounds like it would take a hell of a lot of power to run though...

[Rathyel]

With so many extractors/depots it's likely that some of the pipes just don't load properly (visually) while still being counted as connected.

[Captain.Jartyk]

If you are building a large mineral extraction base, you must, to avoid diminishing returns, section it into completely separate parts.

(Diminishing returns) is activated at 1000 / hour, and when you exceed it, so each additional unit you build, gives less than the previous one.

You must ensure that the sections are separated by at least 1 meter, because pipelines have an auto-connect function, if you connect a supply depot to the pipeline, you can place several other depots next to it, and they will automatically be connected to that pipeline.

You can use this behavior to radically reduce the number of parts (pipelines) needed for the construction.
But it will also cause problems if you place things that belong to different networks too close to each other.

Make the mine with several floors, where each floor has a few extractors, which are then connected to their own storage depot.
The electrical power needed for everything does not need to be separated, everything can be powered from the same electrical hotspot.

[Haraidon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3388454209

It takes a long time to explain, especially through an online translator. Over several different attempts, I have developed a scheme that is convenient for me to build miners. On average, 4,200 resources are extracted in 1 hour. The total storage capacity of 63,000 is filled in 14-15 hours. That's enough for me.
Here are the coordinates (Euclid), you can fly over and take a look.

[wkitty42]

Originally posted by jit:

i aint reading all that

yep... without paragraphs, it is extremely hard to read... at least it has some punctuation in it... unlike some other walls of words...

[Jaggid Edje]

@wkitty42, even if it lacked punctuation, you provided a lot of extra periods we could use.

[wkitty42]

hahaha! yeah... i've been using ellipses like that for over 40 years... they are where i take a breath and continue on... kind of like how i also type in all lower case except for certain things where i might use a Capital letter... it is crazy, i know

[luk335]

This seems like it could be the issue, I have the extractors placed within one meter in a dense square, I will try and separate them to see if that fixes it.

Also sorry for the wall of text I wanted to explain everything in detail.