Lava Planet Needed

[Edostan]

Well hello, Is there anyone with a Lava planet base? Would like to have the Glyph adress. Or the name of the system etc... Need to find Basalt and could not find in any hot planets,. Searched and it says best at lava planets. That would be great. Thnx

[Ozwald]

引用自 Jaggid Edje：

@AmberAnvil, you might want to check those 6 planets again. Not all volcanic planets have Basalt, and when you pin Basalt all it cares about is whether the planet is volcanic or not...it does not actually verify that the planet has basalt as a resource. The message you are seeing in that first screenshot is the exact message that you get if you are in a system that has a volcanic planet.

So you're saying finding basalt doesn't work if it just finds a volcanic planet. I'm not buying that. And none of the screenshots posted by either of you prove nor disprove anything.

[Jaggid Edje]

引用自 Ozwald：

So you're saying finding basalt doesn't work if it just finds a volcanic planet. I'm not buying that. And none of the screenshots posted by either of you prove nor disprove anything.

Not all volcanic planets have Basalt, that's just a simple fact, and sadly pinning it only looks for Volcanic planets, not specifically for ones that do have Basalt. Here's an old thread where I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about that because I had a helluva time finding Basalt on that particular save the first time I needed it.

That old thread is the reason I knew you could pin basalt without having found it. I'm a forward thinker, if I had ever found a planet with Basalt before needing it I would mine some, knowing that I would need it once I unlocked the Voltaic Amplifier blueprint.

That's the reason I was quite happy to have learned that they added those refining recipes to make basalt in that other thread I commented on earlier today.

[Ozwald]

I must be insanely lucky then. I just jumped back to 6 different systems, all very far apart from each other. Got basalt on every single try.

[Jaggid Edje]

引用自 Ozwald：

I must be insanely lucky then. I just jumped back to 6 different systems, all very far apart from each other. Got basalt on every single try.

No, I think I was just extremely unlucky in that particular playthrough of the other thread. While I imagine I could find a volcanic planet without basalt relatively quickly if I went looking just through my discoveries, having it be 5 or 6 in a row like it was that time...I doubt I could duplicate that again in a week of trying.

[AmberAnvil]

引用自 Jaggid Edje：

@AmberAnvil, you might want to check those 6 planets again. Not all volcanic planets have Basalt, and when you pin Basalt all it cares about is whether the planet is volcanic or not...it does not actually verify that the planet has basalt as a resource. The message you are seeing in that first screenshot is the exact message that you get if you are in a system that has a volcanic planet....

I'm definitely aware that most Volcanic biomes don't have Basalt. Even "Basalt" planets may not show Basalt as a resource.
But this is indeed curious. I have a Dead world, two Exotics (Fractured and Petrified) a Barren world (with diplos!), a Scorched biome and a Marsh biome with Vile Brood. Clearly nothing that's Volcanic. I'm not even going to speculate at this point, other things to do.

[Jaggid Edje]

Did you choose the option to skip the tutorial? Maybe pinning doesn't work correctly if you haven't got the hyperdrive tech yet because "galaxy map" is not yet available?

[Ozwald]

引用自 Jaggid Edje：

引用自 Ozwald：

I must be insanely lucky then. I just jumped back to 6 different systems, all very far apart from each other. Got basalt on every single try.

No, I think I was just extremely unlucky in that particular playthrough of the other thread. While I imagine I could find a volcanic planet without basalt relatively quickly if I went looking just through my discoveries, having it be 5 or 6 in a row like it was that time...I doubt I could duplicate that again in a week of trying.

引用自 AmberAnvil：

I'm definitely aware that most Volcanic biomes don't have Basalt. Even "Basalt" planets may not show Basalt as a resource.

No, because most volcanic biomes don't have basalt. If it was just directing me to the nearest volcanic planet, the odds are it wouldn't have basalt on it. Even moreso, all of mine scanned from space showing it as a resource.

The likelihood of trying that 6 separate times, in 6 very different areas finding basalt every single time is very small if it's only directing to volcanic planets & hoping for the best.

Edit:
My process: (I've been on my freighter all day updating & moving ♥♥♥♥ around, so I started from there)

Open teleport. Scroll back a few pages. Choose random space station. Check my spreadsheet to see where it is & anything about the system. Warp. Get in boat. Select basalt. Launch & open galaxy map. Follow mission to a system I've never visited. L3 every planet until I find basalt. Fly to space station. Dismiss basalt quest. Repeat.

[Jaggid Edje]

It's entirely possible they fixed the issue related to pinning it since I made that thread, it's also entirely possible that they didn't. In a game with, literally, trillions of systems, you'd need to do it many hundreds of times before you got a sample size that was even remotely meaningful.

[Ozwald]

引用自 Jaggid Edje：

It's entirely possible they fixed the issue related to pinning it since I made that thread, it's also entirely possible that they didn't. In a game with, literally, trillions of systems, you'd need to do it many hundreds of times before you got a sample size that was even remotely meaningful.

There's a difference between meaningful & a sample size that you could start to draw conclusions from.

That's why I tried 6. It doesn't rule anything out, it absolutely could be luck, but those are pretty steep odds, a result I'd call meaningful.

Flip a coin 6 times. If it's heads every single time, the loser of the toss is almost guaranteed to call foul. And that's WAY higher odds than this.

[Jaggid Edje]

You're contradicting yourself, you are drawing conclusions after only 6. Which is a very bad idea in NMS. That's the main reason so many players spread entirely inaccurate information...they start drawing conclusions based on sample sizes that are not meaningful.

Regardless, I checked back through patch notes and according to Hello Games they did fix the issue related to pinning basalt, in the same Echoes update where they added the refining recipes for it. So your conclusion was correct. :)

引用自 Hello Games：

Fixed an issue that could cause the catalogue mission that guides players towards basalt to pick a planet without any basalt.

[Ozwald]

引用自 Jaggid Edje：

You're contradicting yourself, you are drawing conclusions after only 6. Which is a very bad idea in NMS. That's the main reason so many players spread entirely inaccurate information...they start drawing conclusions based on sample sizes that are not meaningful.

I disagree. Noting patterns and statistics is not drawing conclusions. I know there are at least 2 prominent users here that do it all the time & I'm having a harder & harder time biting my tongue when one of them says 'Well it's a 5 percent chance so you just have to do it 20 times" (read that in the Adam Savage mocking Jamie voice please).

6 doesn't tell me anything about the answer. 6 tells me that it might be worthwhile to start digging for that answer. The first stage in forming a hypothesis isn't concluding.

[Jaggid Edje]

引用自 Ozwald：

6 doesn't tell me anything about the answer. 6 tells me that it might be worthwhile to start digging for that answer.

Fair point, and in that respect I agree with you 100%. I actually looked through old patch notes entirely because of your findings. I believed you, and I also found it suspicious, so I thought it was worth a look.

Given that I missed the refining recipe addition in the Echoes patch notes, that's where I started, because I already knew I clearly didn't read them very well back when that patch landed....

[Ozwald]

Nerd

[Jaggid Edje]

Yes, and thank you. I consider that a compliment.

[Ozwald]

I know. It's why I enjoy discussing things with you.

Nerd. LOL