Are we all sharing the same universe?

[Browser_ice]

Hi, I started a standard game and to my knowledge this is the equivalent of a solo game.

However twice I arrived in a system where all the planets had already been discovered by someone else.

If its a solo game session I am in, why I see planets discovered by other players? To me it sounds as if we are all sharing the same universe but not seeing each other.

[Idaho]

We are all in the same universe.

Once you're away from the 'beginner' areas, you'll never encounter evidence of other players ever again.

[Felis_Exploria]

Originally posted by Idaho:

We are all in the same universe.

Once you're away from the 'beginner' areas, you'll never encounter evidence of other players ever again.

...except when you reach the center of each galaxy.

[Browser_ice]

Than doesn't that mean each planets will be re-re-re-re-re-re-...-re-discovered all over again by different persons but we'll think we are the only one?

[Maybe_Badger]

Originally posted by Idaho:

Once you're away from the 'beginner' areas, you'll never encounter evidence of other players ever again.

Not true, you may, as i have, come across a system that someone has been in before, is unlikely, but not impossible.
Also, if you ever make it to the centre, you almost certainly find many a previously discovered system.

[Idaho]

Originally posted by Felis_Exploria:

Originally posted by Idaho:

We are all in the same universe.

Once you're away from the 'beginner' areas, you'll never encounter evidence of other players ever again.

...except when you reach the center of each galaxy.

I consider the galactic center a beginner area too.

[Idaho]

Originally posted by Browser_ice:

Than doesn't that mean each planets will be re-re-re-re-re-re-...-re-discovered all over again by different persons but we'll think we are the only one?

No once a system/planet/animal/plant/rock is named *AND DISCOVER SERVICES ARE ACIVE AND GREEN*, it will keep that name forever.

Someone else can come along and scan it and get nanites, but they cant change the name, ever.

[Zigamus Wizard]

Technically the planets do not exist UNTIL someone lands on it, that actually creates it, then it gets stored and remembered by the system. So, yes you can run across a system that says it was discovered by someone else. BUT if they didn't land on a planet IN that system then those planets have not been discovered and hence created. Once a planet has been generated then bases created ON that planet and uploaded to the servers will be visible to players that visit that planet. If you build more than one base on a planet, only the last one that is uploaded will be visible publicly.

[UNBREAKABLE]

Originally posted by Zigamus Wizard:

Technically the planets do not exist UNTIL someone lands on it, that actually creates it, then it gets stored and remembered by the system. So, yes you can run across a system that says it was discovered by someone else. BUT if they didn't land on a planet IN that system then those planets have not been discovered and hence created. Once a planet has been generated then bases created ON that planet and uploaded to the servers will be visible to players that visit that planet. If you build more than one base on a planet, only the last one that is uploaded will be visible publicly.

Planets are generated on the fly according to a seed that everyone shares, landing on them has nothing to do with it.

Also, using the system scanner on a freighter marks all planets as "discovered" even if you didn't land.

[Idaho]

Originally posted by Maybe_Badger:

Originally posted by Idaho:

Once you're away from the 'beginner' areas, you'll never encounter evidence of other players ever again.

Not true, you may, as i have, come across a system that someone has been in before, is unlikely, but not impossible.
Also, if you ever make it to the centre, you almost certainly find many a previously discovered system.

'effectively' impossible.

Especially once you leave the Euclid galaxy.

[Ozwald]

Originally posted by Idaho:

Originally posted by Maybe_Badger:

Not true, you may, as i have, come across a system that someone has been in before, is unlikely, but not impossible.
Also, if you ever make it to the centre, you almost certainly find many a previously discovered system.

'effectively' impossible.

Especially once you leave the Euclid galaxy.

Have you been outside Euclid & Eissentam? I'm currently in Wotyarogii (#029) & also in someone else's discovered system.

[Lindy Bomber]

Originally posted by Browser_ice:

Than doesn't that mean each planets will be re-re-re-re-re-re-...-re-discovered all over again by different persons but we'll think we are the only one?

Yes, but, the game map is absurdly large. Each galaxy has (by my calculations) about 2 trillion stars (Milky Way is about 400 billion). Less than 1 % of the first galaxy has been explored. However there are localized areas of that galaxy that have been heavily exploded.

All players start in a thin shell of systems in the first galaxy, a significant percentage of those potential starting systems have been explored. Once you start moving inward or outward from that shell you will find lots of unexplored systems.

[Astasia]

Originally posted by Browser_ice:

Are we all sharing the same universe?

No, but also sort of yes. Everyone has their own version of the universe on their PC, it's just the same universe for everyone*. It is for the most part an offline singleplayer game, there is no megaserver hosting the game or worlds. The universe as you see it only exists on your PC, it's generated based on a seed on the fly as somebody mentioned, and you can play the game fully offline. Everyone playing the game uses the same seed to generate the same locations though (*without mods), and if somebody else discovers a certain planet at a certain location they can upload that discovery and if you play online you can download that discovery and see that they were the first person there (this is just basic text, they aren't actually storing the planet or changes to the planet online). Online mode also allows downloading player bases, and peer to peer multiplayer where you can invite other people into your universe to play with you.

Originally posted by Browser_ice:

Than doesn't that mean each planets will be re-re-re-re-re-re-...-re-discovered all over again by different persons but we'll think we are the only one?

Not in our lifetime, there are quadrillions of planets. Space is really, really, big. Even if every living person on Earth played this game for thousands of hours without any overlap in exploration, that still wouldn't be enough to discover every planet.

For the most part whenever you start a new game that isn't an expedition, you are usually going to be put into an area of space that is predominantly unexplored, and you can spend tens of thousands of hours exploring and still constantly find new unexplored things. You usually have to go out of your way to try to find systems other people discovered. The scale is just that large, because procedural generation allows that sort of thing. The devs can and do also add new stars occasionally as well. Make a few changes to the seed and generation algorithm, and poof, here's a few billion new stars to explore.

[Idaho]

Originally posted by Ozwald:

Originally posted by Idaho:

'effectively' impossible.

Especially once you leave the Euclid galaxy.

Have you been outside Euclid & Eissentam? I'm currently in Wotyarogii (#029) & also in someone else's discovered system.

hence the word 'effectively'. Note I didn't say 'literally'.

And yeah I've *extensively* traveled all the lush galaxies; relatively speaking...

[broter😏]

Originally posted by Idaho:

Originally posted by Felis_Exploria:

...except when you reach the center of each galaxy.

I consider the galactic center a beginner area too.

master gatekeeper

[maestro]

Originally posted by Idaho:

We are all in the same universe.

Once you're away from the 'beginner' areas, you'll never encounter evidence of other players ever again.

There is no "Beginner Area". The game will pick a random (there are tens of thousands, maybe a million+) system to start you in that is in a set "belt" away from the center of the galaxy. About half of my playthroughs, I spawn in an undiscovered system, and the other half of my playthroughs, I spawned in a system already discovered.

It's well and truly random, I think the only requirement is that the planet you spawn on cannot be a paradise planet, anomalous planet, airless planet, dissonant, nor extreme weather, nor aggressive sentinels and there must be at least 2 such planets in the same system (because the first few tutorial quests require you to do stuff on 2 different planets), and the system must be inhabited and cannot be an Outlaw system.