Abandoned Play

[Redshirt68]

WARNING!! POSSIBLE SPOILERS! YOU ARE WARNED.

So I started a new save playing Abandoned mode, and I already have some questions/observations.
1. If the universe is Abandoned and you are the only sentient being, then why are there Sentinels? I would think that makes it not Abandoned, but that the Sentinels have committed genocide on a scale only imaginable here in NMS.
2. Again, with the premise you are the only sentient being in the universe (aside from Sentinels), who is trading stocks you need to check on? I really don't think that the vines or fat blowfish, like the Sentinels, have an interest at all in finance and portfolio's.
3. With that in mind, why does anything you find in abandoned tradeposts, outposts,
and at GTN's & space stations cost anything? You are the only sentient being. I'm pretty sure the Sentinels aren't looking to make a great sale to with the surviving animals, fish, and plants. I get and would think you still need to learn plans & find resources, but everything and anything you find at a GTN, post, or station should be just like finding a sodium or oxygen plant and you gather it free. It's of no value to the animals, plants minerals, or Sentinels, so who is getting the money? Who is left around that even wants it (aside from me)?
I know I can go into Difficulty settings and change it all so it's literally "Creative mode with Only Sentinels", but then that isn't Abandoned mode, is it? This is what's going through my mind as I play so far, and it just ruins the immersion and enjoyment for me. Like trying to figure out how Vader couldn't find Luke on his own home planet of Tattooine, despite living under his family name of Skywalker for over 20 years, or how Andy gets the Raquel Welch poster back on his wall (in Shawshank Redemption) to cover his escape route entrance, after barely being able to crawl through it to escape in the first place?

[Turuk Makto]

Someone is overthinking things :)

[Dirak2012]

Because if they removed all that, it will become creative mode.

[senorduck]

As someone who often falls victim to overthinking things, I hate to agree with the reply above. But if it makes you feel a bit better (which sometimes is all I need to enjoy something), go check out XKCD's What If? On the youtubers. His conclusion is rightly that many solar-powered systems could go on hundreds of years after an apocalypse, permitting conditions.

That being said, it isn't a far leap to imagine that the sentinel cataclysm is a fairly recent event at some level, and as a result many of the automated systems have continued on trading and doing for their now-deceased masters? Maybe I too am overthinking things-

[Despistao]

tienes que completar la historia en "fallos fronterizos" y "pilares centinelas", entonces solo y para ti, mientras tengas activo el juego, y si tienes base en esa galaxia, podrás viajar y encontrar como fue la gran extinción, cuando salgas del juego y quieres volver , será una galaxia como las demás.

[Thane_Ragnar]

You are only some Bytes on a Harddrive somewhere anyway? So you live with the Universe which is given to you and you will like it.

[CAPITAN HARLOCK]

Originally posted by Redshirt68:

WARNING!! POSSIBLE SPOILERS! YOU ARE WARNED.

So I started a new save playing Abandoned mode, and I already have some questions/observations.
1. If the universe is Abandoned and you are the only sentient being, then why are there Sentinels? I would think that makes it not Abandoned, but that the Sentinels have committed genocide on a scale only imaginable here in NMS.
2. Again, with the premise you are the only sentient being in the universe (aside from Sentinels), who is trading stocks you need to check on? I really don't think that the vines or fat blowfish, like the Sentinels, have an interest at all in finance and portfolio's.
3. With that in mind, why does anything you find in abandoned tradeposts, outposts,
and at GTN's & space stations cost anything? You are the only sentient being. I'm pretty sure the Sentinels aren't looking to make a great sale to with the surviving animals, fish, and plants. I get and would think you still need to learn plans & find resources, but everything and anything you find at a GTN, post, or station should be just like finding a sodium or oxygen plant and you gather it free. It's of no value to the animals, plants minerals, or Sentinels, so who is getting the money? Who is left around that even wants it (aside from me)?
I know I can go into Difficulty settings and change it all so it's literally "Creative mode with Only Sentinels", but then that isn't Abandoned mode, is it? This is what's going through my mind as I play so far, and it just ruins the immersion and enjoyment for me. Like trying to figure out how Vader couldn't find Luke on his own home planet of Tattooine, despite living under his family name of Skywalker for over 20 years, or how Andy gets the Raquel Welch poster back on his wall (in Shawshank Redemption) to cover his escape route entrance, after barely being able to crawl through it to escape in the first place?

YOU'RE A LEGEND I THOUGHT THE SAME THING.

An abandoned means that there is no one sentient left so everything that is there is yours!
But here evidently since the sentinels are mechanical they are not believed to be sentient, but they still have the intelligence to shoot you ahahaha.

Your comment is beautiful, maybe HG should have clearer ideas on some things. and not just FOMO.

[Despistao]

Originally posted by CAPITAN HARLOCK:

Originally posted by Redshirt68:

WARNING!! POSSIBLE SPOILERS! YOU ARE WARNED.

So I started a new save playing Abandoned mode, and I already have some questions/observations.
1. If the universe is Abandoned and you are the only sentient being, then why are there Sentinels? I would think that makes it not Abandoned, but that the Sentinels have committed genocide on a scale only imaginable here in NMS.
2. Again, with the premise you are the only sentient being in the universe (aside from Sentinels), who is trading stocks you need to check on? I really don't think that the vines or fat blowfish, like the Sentinels, have an interest at all in finance and portfolio's.
3. With that in mind, why does anything you find in abandoned tradeposts, outposts,
and at GTN's & space stations cost anything? You are the only sentient being. I'm pretty sure the Sentinels aren't looking to make a great sale to with the surviving animals, fish, and plants. I get and would think you still need to learn plans & find resources, but everything and anything you find at a GTN, post, or station should be just like finding a sodium or oxygen plant and you gather it free. It's of no value to the animals, plants minerals, or Sentinels, so who is getting the money? Who is left around that even wants it (aside from me)?
I know I can go into Difficulty settings and change it all so it's literally "Creative mode with Only Sentinels", but then that isn't Abandoned mode, is it? This is what's going through my mind as I play so far, and it just ruins the immersion and enjoyment for me. Like trying to figure out how Vader couldn't find Luke on his own home planet of Tattooine, despite living under his family name of Skywalker for over 20 years, or how Andy gets the Raquel Welch poster back on his wall (in Shawshank Redemption) to cover his escape route entrance, after barely being able to crawl through it to escape in the first place?

YOU'RE A LEGEND I THOUGHT THE SAME THING.

An abandoned means that there is no one sentient left so everything that is there is yours!
But here evidently since the sentinels are mechanical they are not believed to be sentient, but they still have the intelligence to shoot you ahahaha.

Your comment is beautiful, maybe HG should have clearer ideas on some things. and not just FOMO.

entonces completa las misiones y viaja a la galaxia vacía...justo cuando el fallo fronterizo te dice que galaxia viajar. porque durara solo esa sesión,

[cube]

Originally posted by Redshirt68:

2. Again, with the premise you are the only sentient being in the universe (aside from Sentinels), who is trading stocks you need to check on? I really don't think that the vines or fat blowfish, like the Sentinels, have an interest at all in finance and portfolio's.
3. With that in mind, why does anything you find in abandoned tradeposts, outposts,
and at GTN's & space stations cost anything?

So the Gek, Korvax and Vy'keen were supposed to wipe their pricing databases before being wiped out? It's called Abandoned mode, not Never Populated mode.

[paneth48]

All that can be explained by alternate realities bleeding into each other I'd guess. Its not like ATLAS is the most stable thing in any universe.

[Redshirt68]

Overthinking? No. I think I am just observant.

The races wiping their databases before being wiped out? No, again. But if its truly an abandoned universe, prices listed or not, you should be able to just help yourself to whatever you find and if need be, repair it like a crashed ship if damaged/aged.

And I think that's my point. Or at least part of it. It's just re-creating Creative mode, or trying to. HG should have just taken another step with it and make the leap to have/make a truly Abandoned universe from the other 256. With all the infinite realities falling apart, the has to be a few that end up that way.

[Safran the 1st]

Abandoned , its one of the realities that were wiped from the sentinels , remember they cleaned a reality according the logs , in 34-37 mins , too fast to do anything . The only question is why the traveler is not wiped , and the answer is cause he was created after the wipe out .At least thats what my traveler believes :) .

ps . i like to believe that ill find artemis somewhere ;)

[cube]

Originally posted by Redshirt68:

Overthinking? No. I think I am just observant.

The races wiping their databases before being wiped out? No, again. But if its truly an abandoned universe, prices listed or not, you should be able to just help yourself to whatever you find and if need be, repair it like a crashed ship if damaged/aged.

The systems are computerized, you could only help yourself if they were just lying out in crates.

[BraveCaperCat]

Originally posted by CAPITAN HARLOCK:

But here evidently since the sentinels are mechanical they are not believed to be sentient, but they still have the intelligence to shoot you

Not true, as the drone friend from the Trace of Metal mission does speak in the player's language therefore implying sentience. I don't know if the mission exists in abandoned mode, but the sentinels can be reasonably thought to be exactly the same in both modes.

[Hectic Nasari]

One misconception you mention throughout your post is that the player is the only Sentient being, This is wrong according the the in-game description.
The game states that the universe is void of "Alien" lifeforms. Not void of sentient life. This allows the presence of sentinels. Now, your discussion would make more since if you were asking if there are no "Alien" life forms, why are their still animals?
If your interested in learning more about Abandoned Mode, feel free to check my YT for more info.

[maestro]

Originally posted by Redshirt68:

WARNING!! POSSIBLE SPOILERS! YOU ARE WARNED.

So I started a new save playing Abandoned mode, and I already have some questions/observations.
1. If the universe is Abandoned and you are the only sentient being, then why are there Sentinels? I would think that makes it not Abandoned, but that the Sentinels have committed genocide on a scale only imaginable here in NMS.
2. Again, with the premise you are the only sentient being in the universe (aside from Sentinels), who is trading stocks you need to check on? I really don't think that the vines or fat blowfish, like the Sentinels, have an interest at all in finance and portfolio's.
3. With that in mind, why does anything you find in abandoned tradeposts, outposts,
and at GTN's & space stations cost anything? You are the only sentient being. I'm pretty sure the Sentinels aren't looking to make a great sale to with the surviving animals, fish, and plants. I get and would think you still need to learn plans & find resources, but everything and anything you find at a GTN, post, or station should be just like finding a sodium or oxygen plant and you gather it free. It's of no value to the animals, plants minerals, or Sentinels, so who is getting the money? Who is left around that even wants it (aside from me)?
I know I can go into Difficulty settings and change it all so it's literally "Creative mode with Only Sentinels", but then that isn't Abandoned mode, is it? This is what's going through my mind as I play so far, and it just ruins the immersion and enjoyment for me. Like trying to figure out how Vader couldn't find Luke on his own home planet of Tattooine, despite living under his family name of Skywalker for over 20 years, or how Andy gets the Raquel Welch poster back on his wall (in Shawshank Redemption) to cover his escape route entrance, after barely being able to crawl through it to escape in the first place?

So, to answer all of these questions (I didn't see the thread until today):

1). How do you know the Sentinels committed genocide? That doesn't explain the empty stations, and even the empty anomaly since Sentinels can't go there.

2). The stock transfer thingies are computers that still hold credits unclaimed. When you find one and activate it, you transfer these units to yourself (they really should have these locked with a password lol)

3). Computers are programmed to give you goods in exchange for units. They are an automated buying and selling trading system, that is updated by the life-forms who manage them. Did you notice when you access the shop UI where the economy % would normally be listed, it says like "ERROR" and "DATA UNAVAILABLE"? This is because there's no life-forms to update what they want to adjust the prices for.

In the end, Abandoned Mode is more for making the player explore and work for his stuff.

I have about 12 hours into an Abandoned Mode save, and I feel a sense of accomplishment as I have an A-Rank tool, a B-Rank ship, and several A and S rank mods, including two S-Rank Mining Beam mods.

It's a bit more fun than going to the space station and just buying 3 S-Rank mods once you find a station selling the kind you want.