Consequences for being an outlaw/pirate

[Amras]

Just finished Expedition 6 and about to delve into this whole outlaw/pirate update. But before I do that, I have some questions: Can you become a pirate/outlaw with this update? Like, are there ranks and missions that scale with your rank? And, more importantly, will my actions as an outlaw decrease my standing with the korvax, gek and vykeen? Because if yes, I might do this with a second profile.

Also, can you already tell if the blackmarket upgrades are better than the regular ones?

Thank you!

[wkitty42]

you can get black market missions at the pirate stations just like getting missions at regular space stations... depending on the mission, it is possible that your rank with some races will drop from your attacks...

[Dereknor]

I had the same idea. I dont think there are outlaw ranks, so you cant level up as an outlaw. You can just do the missions for fun. I think there are new mechanisms to keep a high rank with the other races. But i dont know yet if its worth the work just to do some outlaw missions. I mostly did the "hunt a pirate" missions, because you dont loose any rank with other races

[Comradovich]

Missing mechanism for keeping high rank: Forged passports, which are gained from outlaw missions at the Bounty Master, (I may be getting his name wrong). A forged passport item will interact with the base computer on a spacestation, (It's the big orb thingy at the back of the hangar) and reset your faction to the neutral level it started as.

Now, there is another way to keep faction levels good, and that's killing with a purpose and doing the usual faction up actions. On my expedition save, I basically massacred every freighter I saw in both normal and pirate space. When I popped down to a normal station, I was still getting mid-faction tier missions being offered, (Rank 4-5 Gek, etc). I've been raiding their bases and killing their d00ds, but they love me. I guess because I'm also killing pirates in their systems and handing in relics. You get relics often, and you get "go kill X pirates" missions often. Killing a pirate in Gek space got me +1 Gek, then the pirate would sometimes drop 3 relics for +3 more Gek, and sometimes he was my mission target, which awarded another +1 on completion. My expedition save is like some bloodthirsty lovechild of Santa and Indiana Jones.

Not just normal Gek, either. Pirate Gek were giving me "go kill X pirates" missions. Handing relics in to Pirate Gek gave +1 normal Gek faction. When it gave me a bounty to go kill regular traders and steal an item, I only kiiled 4 Gek traders and got -4 faction. If you can do arithmetic, you can keep your faction up enough to stay friendly.

Best bet for learning the system is doing the "Under a Rebel Star" mission. I forget which main mission unlocks this. At the conclusion, you end up with a forged passport and mission instructions on how to use it. I don't know if this passport is special or if it was a result of me already having Special Relationship 2 faction with Vy'keen, but when I handed mine in on a Vy'keen station, it gave me +1 Vy'keen faction and I stayed gold in my milestones tab. Still getting rank 9 Vy'keen missions, too. I'm told the normal passport mechanic is to reset faction down to wherever you first started.

[Jez Hammond]

I ended up with a 20 stack of forged passports. I don't think I even need to re-use a new passport and might put them in storage.

[Commander Hitman2b]

Originally posted by Amras:

Just finished Expedition 6 and about to delve into this whole outlaw/pirate update. But before I do that, I have some questions: Can you become a pirate/outlaw with this update? Like, are there ranks and missions that scale with your rank? And, more importantly, will my actions as an outlaw decrease my standing with the korvax, gek and vykeen? Because if yes, I might do this with a second profile.

Also, can you already tell if the blackmarket upgrades are better than the regular ones?

Thank you!

pirate outlaw no but you can be a smuggler

[Comradovich]

Yeah, the outlaw bits seem a bit half baked. I mean, it's not a proper faction. You don't get an entry on the milestone page for Pirates under say Vy'keen or the guilds. Pirate missions aren't offered like space stations where some unlock as you rank up, instead it's more like nexus where they change on regular intervals but they always offer you a set number with none of them locked out. I mean, you can make yourself hated in normal systems, but you don't rank up as a pirate by doing so. It feels more like a start than a finished project.

Smuggling is a thing, and if you like the whole amoral bounty hunter jam, then you're solid. "I'm a simple man making his way through the galaxy, like my father before me".