How come there are no Civilizations or Highly Populated planets in this empty world game?

[angriff]

I am pretty tired of comments in on thread being deleted or locked so I will return to the type of commentary in spam style post the moderators seem to enjoy and promote.

So today I am commenting on the shear emptiness of this game. There are hundreds evern thousands of the same type of animals all with different names on millions of planets but all in all there is a dark sense of emptyness. There are no large populated planets. No large civilizations. Basically an extremely large computer generated emptyness.

Why did the devs spend so much time making such an empty fishing game? it is such a dissappointment.

[Consoomer]

Don't be ridiculous. There are tens of active civs and a whole bunch of new ones just popped up on the radar after Worlds pt.1 update. You just need to use google.

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Civilized_space

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/United_Federation_of_Travelers

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Pax_Cosmica

This is the biggest one: discord.gg/NMSGalacticHub

[Felis_Exploria]

Take the time to read the lore presented throughout the game. It will explain why the universe is so empty.

[Krastifari]

i spent 150 hours on many planets.... none were identical for a start. hundreds/thousands of same animal.... yes but not identical, same as on our planet. Emptyness...hmmmm, possibly in most places but not everywhere. no largely populated planets no but what do you expect?
empty fishing game.... no this is a side expedition which is totally optional and free!

150 hours of missions/replenishing and building too. I have yet to JUST explore.

Who knows with worlds part 2 maybe we will get some more creatures, robots and npc's to interact with.

[Lindy Bomber]

Originally posted by angriff:

I am pretty tired of comments in on thread being deleted or locked so I will return to the type of commentary in spam style post the moderators seem to enjoy and promote.

So today I am commenting on the shear emptiness of this game. There are hundreds evern thousands of the same type of animals all with different names on millions of planets but all in all there is a dark sense of emptyness. There are no large populated planets. No large civilizations. Basically an extremely large computer generated emptyness.

Why did the devs spend so much time making such an empty fishing game? it is such a dissappointment.

Because that is what the hardware available in 2016 could handle. Even today, highly complex bases have trouble loading.

[Ham]

Gets lame when you're hopping from galaxy to galaxy, reality to reality and woah, these animals somehow figured out intergalactic travel and have populated multiple planets! I've found the same 4 legged critters on paradise planets and arid planets so it's not even an 'evolved that way due to similar environments excuse.'

They refuse to fix the horrific texture popping in bug, just keep dumping useless update after useless update. Fishing??? In a space game where you don't eat?

(The fish have also learned how to travel intergalactically)

[Sentient_Pickle]

Originally posted by Consoomer:

Don't be ridiculous. There are tens of active civs and a whole bunch of new ones just popped up on the radar after Worlds pt.1 update. You just need to use google.

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Civilized_space

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/United_Federation_of_Travelers

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Pax_Cosmica

This is the biggest one: discord.gg/NMSGalacticHub

That's not the same as say, urban areas with a proper filled and lived in city. Just because many players all build in an area and frequent it doesn't make up for the vast majority of the game that feels empty. I get that it's the vibe Hello Games was going for, but people always cite the examples you did and they're a relative drop in the bucket, like scouring a beach for those couple grains of sand that are special. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous, not the statement of the OP.

[Consoomer]

Originally posted by Sentient_Pickle:

That's not the same as say, urban areas with a proper filled and lived in city. Just because many players all build in an area and frequent it doesn't make up for the vast majority of the game that feels empty. I get that it's the vibe Hello Games was going for, but people always cite the examples you did and they're a relative drop in the bucket, like scouring a beach for those couple grains of sand that are special. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous, not the statement of the OP.

My guess is you've never been to New Ziki City. And in general, no offence, but you sound like a person who isn't really familiar with the multiplayer scene in NMS. It's basically an MMO-lite. Once you're in it, it does feel dense, despite being small patches in the vastness of surrounding empty universe.

There are limitations, yes. The engine can display only a total of ~16000 building parts at a time in any given star system, from all the bases present. Multiplayer servers are weak - I've personally only seem 18 players in one instance, after that (probably before that) the game starts breaking up instances. But mainly, players are not NPCs - they don't just stand around waiting for you to arrive and appreciate the thickness of the crowd. They are out and about, exploring, choring. There's only so much you can do at your own base after all.

[OneTiredOldMan]

Yeah need to get out of this sim and find the real world. There is no endgame to play for.

[Felis_Exploria]

Originally posted by OneTiredOldMan:

Yeah need to get out of this sim and find the real world. There is no endgame to play for.

Then why are you here? Farming for clown points? Or trolling after playing your FOMO?

[Guyver8]

1) pro-tip: Discussions Rules and Guidelines pinned thread
2) do you enjoy playing NMS at all?
cos if it's not your type of game (for wotever reason) then wots the point...
your mileage has varied... just move on

[ignis]

Originally posted by Pvt. Crian:

Gets lame when you're hopping from galaxy to galaxy, reality to reality and woah, these animals somehow figured out intergalactic travel and have populated multiple planets! I've found the same 4 legged critters on paradise planets and arid planets so it's not even an 'evolved that way due to similar environments excuse.'

They refuse to fix the horrific texture popping in bug, just keep dumping useless update after useless update. Fishing??? In a space game where you don't eat?

(The fish have also learned how to travel intergalactically)

Convergent evolution! A lot of very similar looking animals on Earth are barely related and evolved into the same forms independently.

As an example - cephalopods have eyes very similar to vertebrates with a few differences, like cepalophods having nerves behind the retina, like any reasonable designer would do, which proves that octopus is god's masterpiece, while humans are just apes with too much conceit.

[Lindy Bomber]

Given the lore of the game I think it is fair to conclude that flora and fauna were engineered and placed on planets by the Atlas and or Sentinels. Fauna and Flora could also have been transported and modified by the space fairing races who once occupied these planets. The whole universe is basically post apocalypse.

This is not our universe, the same rules of evaluationary biology do not necessarily apply.

[Sentient_Pickle]

Originally posted by Consoomer:

Originally posted by Sentient_Pickle:

That's not the same as say, urban areas with a proper filled and lived in city. Just because many players all build in an area and frequent it doesn't make up for the vast majority of the game that feels empty. I get that it's the vibe Hello Games was going for, but people always cite the examples you did and they're a relative drop in the bucket, like scouring a beach for those couple grains of sand that are special. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous, not the statement of the OP.

My guess is you've never been to New Ziki City. And in general, no offence, but you sound like a person who isn't really familiar with the multiplayer scene in NMS. It's basically an MMO-lite. Once you're in it, it does feel dense, despite being small patches in the vastness of surrounding empty universe.

There are limitations, yes. The engine can display only a total of ~16000 building parts at a time in any given star system, from all the bases present. Multiplayer servers are weak - I've personally only seem 18 players in one instance, after that (probably before that) the game starts breaking up instances. But mainly, players are not NPCs - they don't just stand around waiting for you to arrive and appreciate the thickness of the crowd. They are out and about, exploring, choring. There's only so much you can do at your own base after all.

Again, that's what, one location? And if you play the game normally, how likely are you to stumble across it? Can you honestly say that the experience of players that ask and seek out info like that location represents the point of view of the average player? I would argue that you sound like you've been at that style of play for so long, you don't know what it's like to be a new or average player.

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

If you only take the lore into consideration, and avoiding spoilers:
Probably because in a space faring civilisation where distance and time are both way larger, where anybody can build any advanced technology instantly from the basic element they are composed with just "knowing" the blueprint of the thing.... this make no sense anymore to concentrate populations ?
I mean.... why are people concentrating in the first place in "contemporary" civilisations ? The need to assist/exploit each other as a specie, simply to do things that require several specialist of several different domains of expertise.
The need to reduce the cost of carrying peoples and materials between the different domain of expertise, the need to control those populations, and eventually also the lack of space...
When in a civilisation anybody can travel instantly between star systems, all you need are small exchange center like the space stations, to maintain a semblance of economical, eventually political, control over the masses... and it's mostly by maintening an arbitrary safe keeping over the most meaningfull and precious things (knowledge and currency, which here basically translate into blueprints and nanites).
What would be the point of keeping too many people inside city-like infrastructures when there's enough planets to "give" several to each person ?
GIven the threats in the universe, it would even be a very stupid move....

I think planteray civilisation must have been a thing at some point in the history of NMS races, that's why there's plenty of ruins left around the universe, but it's no longer the trend, no longer required the same way it's no longer needed to live in caves once you man learnt to make his own shelters, and that was in just a handfull of hundredth of years, in NMS this count in millionth of years, maybe even billionth....

It's speculative ofc, but that's how scifi goes... and the farther it gooes, the more speculative it becomes.
I htink the only thing that lack as of now to make the universe more believable is where are all those starships, capital ships and freighters coming from ? If you dont take spoiler into account...

[Johnny in the Clouds]

Originally posted by angriff:

How come there are no Civilizations or Highly Populated planets in this empty world game?
I am pretty tired of comments in on thread being deleted or locked so I will return to the type of commentary in spam style post the moderators seem to enjoy and promote.

So today I am commenting on the shear emptiness of this game. There are hundreds evern thousands of the same type of animals all with different names on millions of planets but all in all there is a dark sense of emptyness. There are no large populated planets. No large civilizations. Basically an extremely large computer generated emptyness.

Why did the devs spend so much time making such an empty fishing game? it is such a dissappointment.

i'm going to post a parcel and will think about this while out walking. It's sunny outside for once! : ) I do know the universe is quite big and I never get invited to all the parties aliens throw, that may be why. I shall think on that too : )