Better then starfield?

[Tony DeRanger]

starfield is... average, at best. There's no getting over that. But is it better then no mans sky? both open world space games, and both very empty when there is no new content. But which is better? At least in my opinion

Exploration: No mans sky feels smooth in exploring, whether it's entering a station or landing on a planet, the only loading screens are either teleporters or flying at warp speed,
Starfield needs a loading screen every time you look at someone, open a door, move an object, land on a planet, leave a planet, and literally everything else. only so it can load this vast open desert full of ♥♥♥♥ all

Combat: No man's sky doesn't feel made for combat, it feels like it was based around mining and scanning, not fighting. While it can still look good, the controls and camera feel a little, off. Whereas this is the one place starfield does a decent job, now it is a bethesda game and they do have fairly similiar combat among all of them, or to some extent, so starfields combat is somewhat fun.
However, there is still starship combat, in no man's sky, this feels alright. it's pretty fun most of the time, same with starfield, neither of them are that bad.

Content: Both games feel a little devoid of stuff to do after your first playthrough, however, every year there are multiple massive updates to no man's sky, and Starfield has been out for a while, besides the creation club and the dlc that isn't out, not a lot has changed aside fromg bug fixes,

In conclusion, if you want space minecraft, play no man's sky, if you want space fallout 76, play starfield

[Nimsosim]

I didn't get Starfield yet. Although I think fallout 4 is absolutely great.
Mass Effect Legendary Edition and Starfield are a good match for each other I think.

The load screens in Fallout 4 are horrible. I'm sure Starfield isn't any different since it is basically fallout 4 in space. Everything in the videos of it shows that so clearly. I can tell from watching them I prefer fallout 4 for that style of game.

[Mr. Bufferlow]

They are completely different games. Starfield is more Fallout 4 in space...just not as good as FO4. Most of the space travel is just load screens. The "exploring" is pretty hokey as well. You just scan the same 6 types of flora 10 or so times each. Same with fauna. Minerals you only have to scan once and again there are only a handful...but some involve a lot of trotting around to finally find the next one. It is definitely an RPG with a pretty poor excuse for exploring (at least if you have played NMS).

No Man's Sky is a sandbox. A tiny bit of story that reminds one of the early 80's graphical text adventure games like Kings Quest. Almost no character development or role playing...unless you do it all yourself with your imagination.

I think it is a disservice to both games to try to compare them. It is like comparing Happy Gilmore and The Legend of Bagger Vance. Both are movies and both involve golf but they share nothing in common for story elements.

[Tony DeRanger]

Originally posted by Mr. Bufferlow:

They are completely different games. Starfield is more Fallout 4 in space...just not as good as FO4. Most of the space travel is just load screens. The "exploring" is pretty hokey as well. You just scan the same 6 types of flora 10 or so times each. Same with fauna. Minerals you only have to scan once and again there are only a handful...but some involve a lot of trotting around to finally find the next one. It is definitely an RPG with a pretty poor excuse for exploring (at least if you have played NMS).

No Man's Sky is a sandbox. A tiny bit of story that reminds one of the early 80's graphical text adventure games like Kings Quest. Almost no character development or role playing...unless you do it all yourself with your imagination.

I think it is a disservice to both games to try to compare them. It is like comparing Happy Gilmore and The Legend of Bagger Vance. Both are movies and both involve golf but they share nothing in common for story elements.

Speaking of early 80s science fiction, the outer worlds comes to mind. But No mans sky isn't an rpg, Role playing game, it's a sandbox, Starfield is an rpg and it's trying (And failing) to be an open world sand box, also I meant fo76 because everyone was expecting it to live up to f04 but it was ♥♥♥♥, starfield was supposed to be incredible, and was... ♥♥♥♥. (And by ♥♥♥♥, I mean average)

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

smersh Starfield and NMS together and bake for 20 mins and I'll be a happy chap.

if NMS could splice Caves of Qud into itself I'd be static.

[Foxglovez]

"I think it is a disservice to both games to try to compare them. It is like comparing Happy Gilmore and The Legend of Bagger Vance. Both are movies and both involve golf but they share nothing in common for story elements." QUOTE from Mr. Bufferlow

Come on guys, where's Caddyshack in this list? Respect those plaid pants...

[Masque]

Check out the screenshot thread here.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/1762481957322711899/?tscn=1725278719

Show me a user-driven screenshot thread for Starfield with as much variety and beauty. I haven't seen one, but I'm willing to have my mind changed.

As games, they are apples and oranges, and that can be said about any game you're trying to compare with No Man's Sky. You can compare Forza to Gran Turismo and Assetto. You can compare Witcher 3 with Skyrim. You can compare Diablo 4 with Torchlight 2, Grim Dawn, and Path of Exile. And on and on, with a thousand other genres of extremely similar games.

There is no game that can be compared with this, other than, as I noted, screenshots. I suppose you could also compare vast screenshot collections of NMS with other environmentally diverse games such as Skyrim, or Outer Worlds, or Mass Effect games, or Elite Dangerous, or Empyrion: Galactic Survival -- but none come even remotely close to the beauty this game is capable of.

Edit: Although Skyrim, Witcher 3, Far Cry games, Valheim, and a wide variety of other games have better looking individual trees and rivers. I will admit. We're still stuck in the Morrowind era in that category.

[Chirico Cuvie]

It's the loading screen and emptyness that is killing the game

[LeftPaw]

Haha! There really is no comparison apart from night and day. NMS is streets ahead of SF. Even what story there is in NMS is better than the awful slop SF calls a story.
I put around 85 hours into SF before I just couldn't play anymore, I was bored to tears. NMS on the other hand never get's old. I must have put 18 quintillion hours into NMS and still enjoy playing it.

I think some people love Starfield so they probably wont agree, but that my view on the subject.

[LeftPaw]

Have you noticed how AAA big budget games get worse while Indie games are getting better? It won't be very long before you can't tell them apart except for the price.
The AAA studios may employ about 500 so all those wages need paying. While your indie studio employs around 10. Thing is, a good amount of those working for the large AAA studios don't do anything.

[Guyver8]

Originally posted by LeftPaw:

Have you noticed how

NMS a non-competitive game is supposedly in competition with starfield... and who the heck really cares?
they're really different games with the only thing in common being that they are space games... but even if they were more similar, they don't scratch the same itch

[LeftPaw]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhkOq-u1TFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcdylKFXvBM&t=5s

There are tons of vids making the comparison.

[Nimsosim]

Originally posted by LeftPaw:

Have you noticed how AAA big budget games get worse while Indie games are getting better? It won't be very long before you can't tell them apart except for the price.
The AAA studios may employ about 500 so all those wages need paying. While your indie studio employs around 10. Thing is, a good amount of those working for the large AAA studios don't do anything.

Yes it's likely true.
Hard to find good help. And hard to keep them.
Also everything is so fragmented these days. Including individual focus.
It's easy to get side tracked. Then there is the whole financial thing.

Either way you crack it. It's not easy. When these programs come together it looks easy but truly there were many hard fought battles won along the way.

Of course I'm going to be bias for nms this is the nms forum.
Needless to say they seam to do a great job of keeping the fruit blooming.

[Guyver8]

Originally posted by LeftPaw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhkOq-u1TFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcdylKFXvBM&t=5s

There are tons of vids making the comparison.

yup... and they're all doing it for the clicks/traffic to get paid, but it's still a silly comparison

... it's like newspaper sports writers talking up 'animosity' between 2 fighters to drum up 'news'

[Nimsosim]

NMS is is eight years old... Got it's tail tanned at launch and didn't even flinch.

Look were it is now. On par with what is supposed to be the best game out right now. That hails from a mega game studio who has dominated the rpg genre for years.

And nms wasn't even trying to do that as far as I can tell. It just became that.

[Skullys Corner]

NMS is unlimited. That feeling of unlimited space. The only thing I wish we could do is do all the old expeditions some of us missed out on.