Is it good yet?

[Prophet360]

NOPE

so the world update looks great. absolutely amazing. great job!

...but it is the same bloated, broken, overplayed, nonsensical, YA story. All these updates and nobody has come up with a better one? even better wou9ld be a few where the 'new game' or the universe change would a trigger random selection.

you have a few fairly obvious things to do to fix things.

start with the broken things. especially the story related stuff. don't just add new overblown stuff to cover it up. I mean all the original stuff, which we still get during the intro base build, is busted. all the harvesters, refiners, etc are still reset to empty anytime you leave the base area. you added all the industrial gathering stuff to cover it up but never fixed the problem. the industrial stuff is rather pointless as your economy is non-existent.

the settlements are nice but constant forced combat pushes us to move on. it has been years and not a single new achievement. explain to me the logic of having wildlife which is found 'in the north' but no map. way-points that cannot be used to find your 'way', you know - the definition, because again, no map. global storms are just... i mean, wow.

overall, I gotta say I cant recommend this anymore. instead of adding more junk to replace broken junk, or reinventing the game, but for some reason, keeping the same story but adding another overlapping arc right in the middle; just make a darn sequel.

[Dirak2012]

It was always good.

[Prophet360]

Originally posted by Dirak2012:

It was always good.

no at llaunch it was terrible. Atlas brought it to 'ok' but then everything else added bloat and problems. been a downward spiral ever since. graphics are not everything.

[Chirico Cuvie]

You can't deny water, shadows, clouds, fauna reacting on storms and floating islands isn't a refreshing addition. Even the planet preloading is much smoother transition. Before you could see low-res squares loading around the center. But again this is part 1.

From my critical side, sometimes the particles and dust don't work out fine. The bubbles are annoying and lowres. When extreme storm they should let the particles, fauna and waves move like factor 3x more and quicker.

[Prophet360]

Originally posted by Chirico Cuvie:

You can't deny water, shadows, clouds, fauna reacting on storms and floating islands isn't a refreshing addition. Even the planet preloading is much smoother transition. Before you could see low-res squares loading around the center. But again this is part 1.

From my critical side, sometimes the particles and dust don't work out fine. The bubbles are annoying and lowres. When extreme storm they should let the particles, fauna and waves move like factor 3x more and quicker.

as i said, the graphics in the worlds update are WAY better. unfortunately, they are putting lipstick on a pig. now, it is a good looking broken game.

[Isthatyoudave?]

the game is still a broken mess on pc's more than capable. Its unplayable right now due to the same old stutter problem the game has suffered from since launch for many.
Some peoples systems will work fine and others it simply wont work. Its all a lottery in how it detects hardware. the shader cache system doesnt seem to do anything and it always feels like its loading shaders constantly.

[caseyas435943]

Originally posted by Prophet360:

Originally posted by Chirico Cuvie:

You can't deny water, shadows, clouds, fauna reacting on storms and floating islands isn't a refreshing addition. Even the planet preloading is much smoother transition. Before you could see low-res squares loading around the center. But again this is part 1.

From my critical side, sometimes the particles and dust don't work out fine. The bubbles are annoying and lowres. When extreme storm they should let the particles, fauna and waves move like factor 3x more and quicker.

as i said, the graphics in the worlds update are WAY better. unfortunately, they are putting lipstick on a pig. now, it is a good looking broken game.

It's not broken. It just not very full of content if you aren't a base builder.

Don't mistake broke with content.

It is true you can put cake frosting on a turd, but it doesn't make it a cake. It's still a turd.

The update was great two thumbs up to Hello Games. But the frosting doesn't make this game a cake.

Most of the updates have never addressed this problem. A very empty game even with 100s of billions if not more of planets.

Again, don't mistake a lack of actual content for being broken. The game isn't broken.

[CatPerson]

Not everyone cares about story or better combat or better MP or whatever it is one might be expecting/hoping in order to make it "good" or not "broken." >.>

That said I'd agree with the generalistic "after a while there's not much to do", in the sense that people who don't like to make their own fun/goals/sandbox/restarting over and over perhaps, are likely to get bored. Or even if you like those things, like with all games, many will still get bored after a while eventually. That's where I am - spent 500+ hrs, but got kind of bored hunting for ships, landing/looking at every planet visually, collecting pets. I personally don't care about expeditions at all, and the base building in this game isn't a big thing for me.

The new graphic shine is nice but so far I haven't felt pulled in again. I think I need to let more time pass is all. Another 6-12 months perhaps. Which is why I have other games.

[Captain Canard]

Whether it's good or not depends on what you're looking for in a game like this. It's such a big game with so much to do that it's bound to appeal to some people. For example, I love exploring in this game. That's pretty much why I play it. I've never finished the main story or done all the little bolted-on minigames (grow a ship, tame a lion bear horse bird to ride, etc), I just explore and see what's out there. Of course this means making some money to buy better ships and equipment, along with general gathering and crafting, but I enjoy that as well. So for me, yeah, it's good! (Stupid bugs notwithstanding)

But it doesn't come anywhere near replacing games like X4 Foundations, Space Engineers, Elite Dangerous, etc. If those are your "measuring stick", then I can see why you would think NMS isn't that good.

[Prophet360]

Originally posted by caseyas435943:

Originally posted by Prophet360:

as i said, the graphics in the worlds update are WAY better. unfortunately, they are putting lipstick on a pig. now, it is a good looking broken game.

It's not broken. It just not very full of content if you aren't a base builder.

Don't mistake broke with content.

It is true you can put cake frosting on a turd, but it doesn't make it a cake. It's still a turd.

The update was great two thumbs up to Hello Games. But the frosting doesn't make this game a cake.

Most of the updates have never addressed this problem. A very empty game even with 100s of billions if not more of planets.

Again, don't mistake a lack of actual content for being broken. The game isn't broken.

i love the: 'It's not broken. It just not very full of content if you aren't a base builder.'
base building is one of their foundations. when your foundation is broke, so is the building. and their content is very little. it is just spread out.

[E=d.u²]

Originally posted by Prophet360:

the industrial stuff is rather pointless as your economy is non-existent.

NMS lacks a good loop and we are asking it for years. There's no reason to build anything or to do anything. The survival update made permadeath a little more challenging, but it still lacks a reason.

And then we have the "you do your own story" people throwing this argument here and there, but the problem with this is that there's no inherent challenge to the activities, which leads to constantly ask "why?".

"Why should I do this? Or that?" and at the end you start to ask "why even play?".

[Mr. Bufferlow]

Sounds like you just want it to be a different kind of game- which it is not and likely never will be. You are welcome to complain about it, but at some you have to realize you need to go find a game that scratches your itch.

A lot of us like the game as it is. It does not have to become the Swiss army knife of space games to satisfy every desire.

[Daedrius]

Sounds like another bored Counter-Strike player. 🙄

[DirtyMick]

Originally posted by CatPerson:

Not everyone cares about story or better combat or better MP or whatever it is one might be expecting/hoping in order to make it "good" or not "broken." >.>

That said I'd agree with the generalistic "after a while there's not much to do", in the sense that people who don't like to make their own fun/goals/sandbox/restarting over and over perhaps, are likely to get bored. Or even if you like those things, like with all games, many will still get bored after a while eventually. That's where I am - spent 500+ hrs, but got kind of bored hunting for ships, landing/looking at every planet visually, collecting pets. I personally don't care about expeditions at all, and the base building in this game isn't a big thing for me.

The new graphic shine is nice but so far I haven't felt pulled in again. I think I need to let more time pass is all. Another 6-12 months perhaps. Which is why I have other games.

I mean, to be fair, I've gotten bored of 99% of games I've played after 500 hours. Hell, most of em I never even made it to 500 hours. That's a hell of a lot of time to get out of a video game. Out of the hundreds of games I've played in my 25 years of playing video games, only 4 have gotten past 500 hours. And I got bored of them, and then came back after a few months to play some more in phases.

[CatPerson]

Originally posted by DirtyMick:

I mean, to be fair, I've gotten bored of 99% of games I've played after 500 hours. Hell, most of em I never even made it to 500 hours. That's a hell of a lot of time to get out of a video game.

lol, agreed. I'm just one of those types of players that if I latch onto a game, I latch on for a long time/play it exclusively for months or off and on over years. If I don't latch onto a game fairly quickly, I'm very likely to never get past 5 hours in it, and/or I have long periods where I play zero games.

Currently I'm playing 7 Days to Die again - which I've had for 8 years and go back to it off and on. I figure my brain is still too much into 7Days mode so I'll try NMS again when I'm "bored" of 7 Days again.

[MS. Green Label]

maybe they will do better for you in Light No Fire