Expedition 14 - Apex Predator milestone, problems.

[[BORG] Karbulot [TN]]

Apex Predator - It doesn't count for me. I scan aggressive dinosaurs on the moon Imbsby Minor in the Rudoin-Blosa system, take pictures of them and nothing happens. I've dug through three different YT films and it doesn't work for me.

[gNg]

There's a rare fish on the starter planet that clears this milestone. Look for it in deep water.

[[BORG] Karbulot [TN]]

I will try, THX.

[taniwhat]

Yup, starting world. There's also some animal cruising around I think. I know I had that one done before I fixed the starship.

[smurfy]

I've just been doing some testing of this since so many people seem to be having trouble.

Indeed there is a rare underwater creature on the starter planet that should work for everyone (I've used it on 3/3 finished Expeditions) but from my testing, it is possible for players to not get it to pop if they have non-standard difficulty settings.
Required settings:
Enemy Strength: Standard
Creatures: Predators On
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017162
If your settings are different (less), you will not get aggressive predators. Change to this and restart the game (I have tested without restart, it didn't fix it).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017569
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017620
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017386

[gNg]

I've done the expedition twice now with predators set to defensive and I've found the fish both times. I did the same on Voyagers as well (or whichever expedition it was with a similar milestone?) and didn't have any trouble finding an aggressive enough predator there either.

Maybe the enemy strength setting has an effect though? Mine was always at standard.

[smurfy]

Originally posted by gNg:

I've done the expedition twice now with predators set to defensive and I've found the fish both times. I did the same on Voyagers as well (or whichever expedition it was with a similar milestone?) and didn't have any trouble finding an aggressive enough predator there either.

Yeah, I'm just doing re-tests and although my initial few tests seemed conclusive, subsequent reloads and retests seem to indicate that it may just randomly spawn as non-predatory (doesn't even register on the Wonders as a vicious hunter). Last test was with difficulty lowered and it did ping... so [shrug].
Edit: Last successful disprove test was with both settings lowered. :(

[darknessanubis]

I wonder if it has to do with disconnections from the server. I know I have been off and on disconnected from the server since the first update. My thought being if you scan the predator and the server cannot check that what you scanned matches the requirements then the milestone fails

[smurfy]

Originally posted by darknessanubis:

I wonder if it has to do with disconnections from the server. I know I have been off and on disconnected from the server since the first update. My thought being if you scan the predator and the server cannot check that what you scanned matches the requirements then the milestone fails

No, all my tests were with no connection to discovery services, mine has been off all day and only just came back "online" about 10 minutes ago.

[gNg]

Kudos for trying anyway, smurfy. It does seem like there may be some other, random factor involved and hopefully you'll pin it down eventually

And just to confirm what you said above, I just got it again with the server down too.

[Here]

Originally posted by smurfy:

Originally posted by darknessanubis:

I wonder if it has to do with disconnections from the server. I know I have been off and on disconnected from the server since the first update. My thought being if you scan the predator and the server cannot check that what you scanned matches the requirements then the milestone fails

No, all my tests were with no connection to discovery services, mine has been off all day and only just came back "online" about 10 minutes ago.

Not sure if it helps, but I can confirm the critter on the starter world did not pop for me. I was on a fresh save, but I did use an old exploit of mine to make my starter weapon better. Before starting the expedition I purposely loaded into a file {PD/max/settings locked} then exit back to main menu and start a fresh save. This projects my super charged slots onto my starter tool. any file will work, I just chose that one for the tool ... and it just might have been altered in other way along the effects you are seeing.

I made this discovery maybe a year ago {at least I did not know before hand} .... and suspect a lot see it now as they make "slivers" from saves for the Expedition ... this also works {did in Omega when the terminal was added}.

Anyhow my point is that even on a fresh save there might be "projection" from whatever file you were just on. I am not sure if this is unique to me, but highly doubt it based on things I saw post Omega in thing in screens/posts etc ... where the poster was confused lol.

Anyhow I was ignorant in 14 ... did not think anything of it. Assumed "no way it is in the starter system" ... you know the usual adding difficulty where there is none lol. But per my "going in blind [minus the exploit]}" I always try and do as much before leaving the starter system anyhow ... so saw the one on the second planet in the starter system.

But yeah you seemed interested in setting/dynamics and things going on {cool} ... so thought I would add another layer. I did not even think about it until seeing this thread ... so you had me wondering if I altered my "fresh save" in more than just super charged slots as I never opened the options etc.

[[BORG] Karbulot [TN]]

There's just one small problem. Can you tell me what system the starting planet is in? Because I've been to a few solar systems and I don't know how to locate it.

NVM. I found.

[Sulsy]

I found this fish, scanned it. Nothing. Even the counter of the previous record did not change. I passed all stages except this task

Originally posted by smurfy:

I've just been doing some testing of this since so many people seem to be having trouble.

Indeed there is a rare underwater creature on the starter planet that should work for everyone (I've used it on 3/3 finished Expeditions) but from my testing, it is possible for players to not get it to pop if they have non-standard difficulty settings.
Required settings:
Enemy Strength: Standard
Creatures: Predators On
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017162
If your settings are different (less), you will not get aggressive predators. Change to this and restart the game (I have tested without restart, it didn't fix it).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017569
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017620
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3299017386

[Sulsy]

I completed the task when I flew to the planet where I found the predator. Check the network connection with the discovery system. For some reason I didn't have a connection before, but I was in multiplayer. Today there was a connection and the task was completed

[Befitzero]

I found it on the starter planet of the expedition it a rare eel that spawns during the day, make sure you are in deep enough water it won't show up in shallow or at night. I had to reload after I scanned it and then it counted it as the milestone.

[Perish Motel]

I found mine on a planet named "Apex Predator here Mantis looking" lol