Entering and leaving planets/atmosphere way too fast?

[MattersEnd]

It seems to break the immersion for me. You get in a ship from the planet, look up, speed up for about 3 seconds and your in space...that just kills the immersion of actually flying into/out of planets. Don't you think it should take a bit longer to enter orbit, and form there, slowly enter the atmosphere? Entering a planet from space should feel epic. Not like, "hey im here!".

[EsotericEgo]

Originally posted by Matters End:

It seems to break the immersion for me. You get in a ship from the planet, look up, speed up for about 3 seconds and your in space...that just kills the immersion of actually flying into/out of planets. Don't you think it should take a bit longer to enter orbit, and form there, slowly enter the atmosphere? Entering a planet from space should feel epic. Not like, "hey im here!".

We are talking about advanced/futuristic tech so a few seconds is fine and fits well in my opinion.

[Pothocket]

It's sci-fi, not meant to be hard science. The ease of entering and leaving a planet's atmosphere is the same reason planets will be closer together than they would be in real life, ease of gameplay rather than simulation.

Besides, space isn't really that far away. Fly straight up at 200 mph and you'll be there in no time.

[Mikado]

With 18 Quintillion planets to explore, I think your not going to want to waste time playing the game like your in an old space shuttle with mission control on your back spending what seems to be an eternity reaching escape velocity.

[MattersEnd]

no no, you guys misread me. I mean more like 10-20 seconds to enter the planet and feel like your descending onto it. Right now, its almost instant, it just feels hyper unrealistic, like COD does to shooters. I'm advocating for something in the middle, to atleast give me the sense i'm nearing a huge celestial body and about to enter it.
I would NOT like mission control on my back lol...

[GrandPa Gaming NL]

Don't know, can't answer..... since I haven't played it yet.

[MattersEnd]

for sure, i was just referring to the videos posted. Its so fast to the point of being dumb IMO.

[Mikado]

Yeah mission control, gotta love them.

There is demo footage of timely atmospheric transitions, folks showing the game just appear to want to get out fast at times. You could fly around the atmosphere for ages looking about so I doubt the scale will not be lost on anyone playing given how seamless it appears to be.

There is one piece of footage where the ship is being buffeted by high winds as they fly around, I think there are going to be so many OMFG!WOW! moments in this game I doubt you'd be disappointed.

[MattersEnd]

Don't you think it would be cool to have like 10-15 seconds of burning through the atmosphere before it finally clears and you see the beutiful planet below you, which takes another 10-15 seconds to land on? I just feel like with how fast it is now its almost childish, like it appeals to COD heads (no offense to anyone here) who are all about "get me here fast so I can do ♥♥♥♥ and leave fast". I feel like it needs a little bit of room to breath, like a fine wine :) anyway just my 2 cents - all good.

[Microphobe]

IMO the number of times you will be crossing the atmosphere, making the crossing even 15 seconds would become tedious after a dozen planets or so.

[River]

Aren't the travel times cut down for the preview trailers? I seem to remember them saying that a few times.

[MattersEnd]

Originally posted by Nargacuga:

Aren't the travel times cut down for the preview trailers? I seem to remember them saying that a few times.

Would love to know if thats true. Could you potentially find the source (assuming you have the time - no pressure)? :)

[Agricola]

I spend enough time on re-entry and escpaes in Kerbal, sure it would be more realism, but as people say this is sci-fi and quick re-entry is not a problem, but certainly from what I see I would like a few more seconds of vibration and heat, all relative to the atmosphere and gravity. But its no big deal at end of day.

[Cryoburner]

Originally posted by Matters End:

It seems to break the immersion for me. You get in a ship from the planet, look up, speed up for about 3 seconds and your in space...that just kills the immersion of actually flying into/out of planets. Don't you think it should take a bit longer to enter orbit, and form there, slowly enter the atmosphere? Entering a planet from space should feel epic. Not like, "hey im here!".

I agree, though I think the actual reason for this is something I noticed right from the start. These are tiny planets. In the trailers, when approaching a world, you can see relatively small surface features when looking at the planet from a fair distance away in space. The scale of planets appears to be far smaller than those in our solar system, and a bit closer to the miniature planets from Spore. They're certainly not anywhere close to Earth-sized, at least.

Originally posted by Pothocket:

Besides, space isn't really that far away. Fly straight up at 200 mph and you'll be there in no time.

Eh, no. While there is no precise line where the atmosphere ends and space begins, the bare minimum to consider a flight as a non-orbital spaceflight is generally accepted as an altitude of 100km (62 miles). By that definition, at 200 mph, it would take you around 20 minutes of vertical flight to get through the atmosphere. The International Space Station, in low Earth orbit, is around 250 miles up, so travelling straight up at 200mph would take you about 1 hour and 15 minutes. And reaching the distance of the moon at that speed would take you about a month and a half. You should probably increase your speed estimate a bit. : D

[MattersEnd]

Originally posted by Cryoburner:

Originally posted by Matters End:

It seems to break the immersion for me. You get in a ship from the planet, look up, speed up for about 3 seconds and your in space...that just kills the immersion of actually flying into/out of planets. Don't you think it should take a bit longer to enter orbit, and form there, slowly enter the atmosphere? Entering a planet from space should feel epic. Not like, "hey im here!".

I agree, though I think the actual reason for this is something I noticed right from the start. These are tiny planets. In the trailers, when approaching a world, you can see relatively small surface features when looking at the planet from a fair distance away in space. The scale of planets appears to be far smaller than those in our solar system, and a bit closer to the miniature planets from Spore. They're certainly not anywhere close to Earth-sized, at least.

Originally posted by Pothocket:

Besides, space isn't really that far away. Fly straight up at 200 mph and you'll be there in no time.

Eh, no. While there is no precise line where the atmosphere ends and space begins, the bare minimum to consider a flight as a non-orbital spaceflight is generally accepted as an altitude of 100km (62 miles). By that definition, at 200 mph, it would take you around 20 minutes of vertical flight to get through the atmosphere. The International Space Station, in low Earth orbit, is around 250 miles up, so travelling straight up at 200mph would take you about 1 hour and 15 minutes. And reaching the distance of the moon at that speed would take you about a month and a half. You should probably increase your speed estimate a bit. : D

+1

[River]

Originally posted by Matters End:

Would love to know if thats true. Could you potentially find the source (assuming you have the time - no pressure)? :)

I believe it was said in the old technical discussion video? I'm afraid I'm not entirely sure, but it was definitely in one of the older videos that they released. I know they said that the distances between planets were drastically shortened, but I'm not sure if they clarified if that applied to the time to leave the atmosphere or anything like that.