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[Conflict]

How’s the intel-Mac version so far?

[I Am Groot]

The_Cactus님이 먼저 게시:

Same problem as others but with a twist - NMS doesn't run on iMac 2020 3.6Ghz 10-core Inter; i9 wit hRadeon Pro 5700XT 16GB and 48GB memory, but runs OK on MBP 2017 with Intel Core i7 and 16GB memory- doesn't;t make sense to me. From the discussion it seems there is something specific to iMac that is at play.

Your specs should out perform the Apple M chip.
This is a downplay and that iSheep clown is talking nonsense. He probably will say your CPU is worse than Apple M1 as per Apple claim.

[roberting]

here:
iMac Retina 27" 2020:
3,8 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i7
AMD Radeon Pro 5500 XT 8 GB
32 GB RAM
ventura 13.4

using default (automatically determined?) graphics settings with 1920 x 1080 will result in displaying a slide show.
All settings on low ("Standard") and with the minimum resolution of 800 x 450 (Antialiasing is off, no filtering) just about gives me more or less playable (but far from smooth) movement, but menu items are barely readable. so it is practically unusable.

I also tried higher resolution in conjunction with downscaling the rendering to 25%. This will render the UI in a readable manner but still is no joy to play (and I am talking about the first steps in the game (repairing the space craft), where there are no complex interactions or fights which would be probably impossible with this performance.)

strangely, some folks on reddit claim that it runs on their intel i7 Mac Book Pro with Monterey macOS?!

however, in my opinion the producers should not advertise this as playable on intel hardware...

[Spladow]

Hi all. I was getting ready to post a topic on the Mac version of NMS, and saw this thread, so am jumping in.

I've actually been playing the game for over a year on Bootcamp and it runs decently, albeit at fairly modest settings (more on that later). I get around 26FPS or more on average except for some space station fly-in animations, so fairly playable. I was super excited to see the Mac version come out this month but, as so many of you have pointed out, the game runs like a slide show for most of the game. Here is my setup:

iMac 27" 2019 - 6-core i5, 2TB hybrid drive, 24GB RAM, Radeon Pro 580X 8GB Ram

I run the game in Windows 10 using the following:

- 1920 x 1080
- 3x Vsync
- Max framerate 60
- HIGH graphics settings
- GTAD = high
- TAA anti-aliasing

On the Mac I have the following:

- 1920 x 1080
- 3x Vsync
- Max framerate 50
- HIGH graphic settings
- Anosotrophic 4
- Antialiasing MSAA 4x
- Fidelity FX = Quality
- Motion blur = 100

So very similar setup. I've tried a bajillion combinations of setting on the Mac with so very many restarts of the game. This is about the best quality and best framerate I could eek out of the game on my Mac. But I get around 5FPS - 18FPS at best. And I am definitely NOT going to run this at lower graphics quality, cause it just looks terrible and ruins gameplay.

The big deal here is the game runs MUCH smoother on Windows than on Mac OS. And importantly, I am running the game on the exact same machine. So the issue is either with the Mac OS graphics drivers, the implementation of the game on Mac OS, or a combination of both.

It IS a new release, so I hope Hello Games spends some quality time testing and tweaking the performance on Intel AND silicon macs to give us at least the performance I can get in Windows.

Overall this game is a dog for graphics, it doesn't run smoothly like Exodus Metro or other graphic intensive games so there is definitely room for improvement.

-- Spladow

[Xerra]

It's clearly been built to run primarily on Silicon Macs, and Intel was an afterthought that they can't have even really tested because literally everyone with an Intel machine has found it unplayable.

I got so frustrated that I went and bought an M2 Mac mini Pro, and, as you'd expect, it works great on that.

[Musashi]

@Spladow
I wonder if in your TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML of your MAC version your Radeon Pro 580X
is listed .. as in your mxml of your Windows version

[Gumbolia]

Works fairly well for me on:

- macOS 12.6.7
- iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019)
- 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9
- 32 GB RAM
- Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB

Some visual glitches, very occasional freeze requiring restart (since last update), and very slow to load.

Slightly irritated at the size of the patches because sometimes I just want to jump in for half an hour, but it takes the whole half-hour to download an update.

Playable though!

[Spladow]

Musashi님이 먼저 게시:

@Spladow
I wonder if in your TKGRAPHICSSETTINGS.MXML of your MAC version your Radeon Pro 580X
is listed .. as in your mxml of your Windows version

Where would I find such a file, and why do you ask? Is this something that should be added or removed from this file? How would it affect performance?

-- Spladow

[Musashi]

You may check this file (or compare) whether your GPU is in the list

Mine has these entries (PC)
<Property name="MonitorNames">
<Property name="MonitorNames" value="0|NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti|Generic PnP Monitor" />
</Property>
<Property name="ResolutionWidth" value="1920" />
<Property name="ResolutionHeight" value="1080" />

and somewhere at the end :
<Property name="AdapterName" value="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti" />
<Property name="AdapterIndex" value="0" />
That way I know NMS is usig my GPU

You find that file :
MAC
/Users/<username>/Library/Application Support/HelloGames/NMS/SETTINGS

On PC
That file is in \steamapps\common\No Man's Sky\Binaries\SETTINGS

[Spladow]

Xerra님이 먼저 게시:

It's clearly been built to run primarily on Silicon Macs, and Intel was an afterthought that they can't have even really tested because literally everyone with an Intel machine has found it unplayable.

I got so frustrated that I went and bought an M2 Mac mini Pro, and, as you'd expect, it works great on that.

That's pretty extreme @Xerra, but understandable. Well just for grins, I have a 2020 M1 MacBook Pro. Stock 8GB RAM. Basically the lowest end Macbook model. I just updated the OS to 13.4.1 from 12.2 (12.2 won't run NMS). I then installed a fresh copy of No Man's Sky, ran it and was blown away! You couldn't have said it better in your quote above! I am getting upward of 40+FPS in HIGH quality at 1680 x 1050! Runs about 3 times as fast and at better quality than on my Bootcamp version and about 10x faster than my Intel Mac OS version.

Wow, night and day performance and quality versus my older (but beefy) iMac with an 8GB graphics card. Amazing that such a low end laptop can run this game so well! That tells volumes about the new Apple silicon and its performance using the minimum RAM. Of course, for those that don't have an Apple Silicon laptop or desktop, it doesn't help to hear how well a lowly 8GB laptop can run No Man's Sky. Bummer that NMS won't run anywhere near as well on an Intel machine.

But on the bright side, if Apple silicon can run games that good on the lowest denominator machine, more game companies should be developing for Apple Silicon machines (hear that Blizzard - gimme some Diablo IV).

Now to find a way to display my MacBook M1 screen on my 27" iMac!

-- Spladow

[Spladow]

And another followup to my previous posting...

Since I am lucky to have this M1 Macbook (not everyone will have this option) I was able to use the feature that let's me mirror my Macbook on my huge iMac 27" display. I just hooked up an old wireless keyboard and my Logitech mouse (using channel 2 for laptop, channel 1 for my iMac) and now I have NMS running pretty darn nicely on my big screen.

If you are fortunate enough to have an Apple silicon Macbook and you have an Intel desktop, use that awesome screen mirroring feature to give yourself a huge monitor for no extra cost!

[Xerra]

Doesn't that mirror screen mode onto an iMac only work on models prior to 2014?

[Spladow]

Xerra님이 먼저 게시:

Doesn't that mirror screen mode onto an iMac only work on models prior to 2014?

Nope, otherwise I wouldn't be telling you that's what I am using. I've got a 202 M1 Macbook, 8GB RAM, OS 13.4.1, and a 27" iMac, 2019 model, 6-core i5, 24GB RAM, 8GB Radeon Pro 580X running 13.4.

Just go to Displays in System Preferences on your MacBook, choose "Mirror or Extend to iMac" and viola. I also have a wireless keyboard and mouse set up for the M1 Macbook to make life easier.

Now if I can just figure out why teleporting and warping is now stuck in my NMS???

[thinkEdem]

So the thing is, I've been playing this on my 2020 iMac (i9, 32GB Ram, 16GB Radeon Pro 5700) for ages through Bootcamp, and it ran just fine. Now I installed it on the same mac on macos, and it's so laggy, it took me about a minute to be able to quit the game because of how sluggish even the mouse was in the menus...

[roberting]

Gumbolia님이 먼저 게시:

Works fairly well for me on:

- macOS 12.6.7
- iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019)
- 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9
- 32 GB RAM
- Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB

Some visual glitches, very occasional freeze requiring restart (since last update), and very slow to load.

Slightly irritated at the size of the patches because sometimes I just want to jump in for half an hour, but it takes the whole half-hour to download an update.

Playable though!

Hi there,
what graphics setting did you use?

I just don't get it: afaik this graphics card is older than the Radeon Pro 5500 XT in my 2020 iMac 27" - and I cannot believe that the processor alone (i9 vs. i7) makes the difference between "playable though" and "practically unplayable"?!

[Gumbolia]

roberting님이 먼저 게시:

what graphics setting did you use?

I just don't get it: afaik this graphics card is older than the Radeon Pro 5500 XT in my 2020 iMac 27" - and I cannot believe that the processor alone (i9 vs. i7) makes the difference between "playable though" and "practically unplayable"?!

Let's see... Here's how I have it set up:

Window mode: Fullscreen
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Resolution Scaling: 100%
V-Sync: Triple Buffered
Max FPS: 30

Texture Quality: Enhanced
Animation Quality: Standard
Shadow Quality: Enhanced
Post Processing: Standard
Volumetric Effects: Standard
Planet Quality: Enhanced
Base Complexity: Standard

Anisotropic Filtering: 4
Anti Aliasing: MSAA 2x
FidelityFX: Off
Gamma: 50%
Motion Blur Amount: 0