Infinite World

[GameIdiot]

Is this game really infinite?
If not, how much of it has been explored so far?

[STATIK]

It is effectively infinite.

Less than 1/1,000,000,000 of 1% has been discovered.

[cswiger]

No, this game is simply very large.

About 1% of the first or starter galaxy, Euclid, has been explored.
Far less of any of the rest of the galaxies has been explored.

[Jaggid Edje]

No, it's not infinite. It's just really, really big.

I'm not sure what total amount has been discovered, but my guess is that it's less than 1%,
The total number of planets in the game is over 18 quintillion.

Now ask how many of those are 'unique" and particularly worth discovering...

[STATIK]

mathematically there are 18 Quintilian possible planets, but the devs only have about 10% of star systems in use currently. so there's probably 'only' 1.8 Quintilian.

then figure each star system has on average 3 planets. That puts us down to 600 quadrilion star systems.

There's been approximately 15 million copies of the game sold, and I'm guessing the average player only visits 50-100 star systems. So only about 800 million-1.5 billion total star systems have been discovered. And even that seems high in my experience.

[☥Majora☥]

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[MarStrMind]

Originally posted by JJ SilverWhite:

mathematically there are 18 Quintilian possible planets, but the devs only have about 10% of star systems in use currently. so there's probably 'only' 1.8 Quintilian.

then figure each star system has on average 3 planets. That puts us down to 600 quadrilion star systems.

There's been approximately 15 million copies of the game sold, and I'm guessing the average player only visits 50-100 star systems. So only about 800 million-1.5 billion total star systems have been discovered. And even that seems high in my experience.

The default value in the GCGalaxyGlobals is set to the threshold of 0.68, which means "do not enable 68% of the stars generated" - so we are effectively looking at 32% of the 18 quintillion - so it's more like 6 quintillion accessible in-game.

[MarStrMind]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Originally posted by MarcusInVR:

The default value in the GCGalaxyGlobals is set to the threshold of 0.68, which means "do not enable 68% of the stars generated" - so we are effectively looking at 32% of the 18 quintillion - so it's more like 6 quintillion accessible in-game.

that's how many systems there are, not how many planets. And I think he was talking planets (as was I).

You did see that I mentioned 18 / 6 quintillion referring to the accessible planet numbers, yes?

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by MarcusInVR:

The default value in the GCGalaxyGlobals is set to the threshold of 0.68, which means "do not enable 68% of the stars generated" - so we are effectively looking at 32% of the 18 quintillion - so it's more like 6 quintillion accessible in-game.

Yep, that's where I came up with my "at least" value above. I was talking planets, of course, so I just multiplied by ~3 under the assumption that the average planets per system is at least 3 (probably higher). I think JJ, in addition to getting the % disabled wrong, wasn't quite grasping the difference between number of planets and number of star systems.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by MarcusInVR:

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

that's how many systems there are, not how many planets. And I think he was talking planets (as was I).

You did see that I mentioned 18 / 6 quintillion referring to the accessible planet numbers, yes?

Yep, was my bad. I had deleted and re-posted after a re-read of your (and JJ's post), as I misinterpreted originally.

Not like it really matters though, the difference between 1.8, 3, or 6 or 18 quintillion planets is still a "not going to explore it all in any of our lifetimes" value. . .

[STATIK]

If every human on Earth played NMS 24/7; it would still take something like 130 years to discovery every star system, assuming they only spent 10 seconds in each system.

Originally posted by MarcusInVR:

The default value in the GCGalaxyGlobals is set to the threshold of 0.68, which means "do not enable 68% of the stars generated" - so we are effectively looking at 32% of the 18 quintillion - so it's more like 6 quintillion accessible in-game.

I wasn't sure if that 68 was a percentage or some kind of logarithmic number. Since there are supposedly a possible 4096 star systems per region, and currently the average region is about 1/10th that number, I thought maybe there was other math at play.

It's probably that, on the wiki, which is old info, there isn't a large enough sample size of regions that have had their star systems counted. Maybe regions with ~1300 stars exist...

[Lindy Bomber]

18 Quintilian (2^64) is the total possible seed values. But the game only used a small fraction of those seed values.

256 (2^8) galaxies
~4.29 Billion (2^32) regions per galaxy
~512 (2^9) stars per region
~4 (2^2) planets per system
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~562 trillion (2^51) planets currently accessible in game.

All of those planets are generated using a limited set of assets, once you have visited more than 30 planets you will start to see repetition, but even after 100 planets you can still spot things you haven't seen before if you have the eye for it.

[STATIK]

In my 2100+ hours I've probably walked on somewhere between 8000-10,000 planets, and I still find unique stuff every day. Yesterday I found the strangest lush planet ever.

[48756d65]

Originally posted by JJ SilverWhite:

It is effectively infinite.

Hum... Here is a typical specimen of NMS fan.

Originally posted by JJ SilverWhite:

Less than 1/1,000,000,000 of 1% has been discovered.

Wow ! And how much is "1/1,000,000,000 of 1%" of the infinite ?

[STATIK]

Originally posted by 48756d65:

Originally posted by JJ SilverWhite:

It is effectively infinite.

Hum... Here is a typical specimen of NMS fan.

Originally posted by JJ SilverWhite:

Less than 1/1,000,000,000 of 1% has been discovered.

Wow ! And how much is "1/1,000,000,000 of 1%" of the infinite ?

keyword: 'effectively', Mr. Bot.

[Steven]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.