FPS drops?! different PCs!

[Ishtar Toshlyra]

Randomly the game starts droppign its FPS.
(only way to get my fps back is restartinh the game)
Checking my temps they are between 50-60° celsius, CPU only uses like 60% and gfx card around the same.

I did everything, turning these things on/off.

Gamemode in win10
nvidia overlay
discord overlay
discors ditself
admin mode
read only for gfx settings
high,low,ultra, settings
antivirus
resoulution
vsync
nvidia sync

also i have tried this:
run on other PC/s
on a friends pc
on my wifes pc
controller plugged in and out
reinstalling multipel times
reinstalling windows and all drivers
i visited a hardware store and they had no idea what to do and told e it seems to be a game issue.

oh yeah any everyone i know so far has the same issue.

do i and the others miss something?
like its there something we didnt think off?

[Unlucky]

Can you actually describe the problem you're experiencing, what you're usually doing (or various scenarios) when it happens, and what you're actually seeing on your screen?

No one can really help you if you just tell us that your "FPS drops"... That is not really enough information to go by... Tell us more about the problem itself... Not about your experiments/debugging. lol

Edit: The debugging info can sometimes be useful too, but for anyone to actually help they must understand what is actually happening and what the problem is. Things like a "FPS drop" are far too generic. You should be able to answer questions like 'What is happening in the game when this occurs?', 'How long has the game been running for?', 'How much is the FPS dropping? From what to what? Does it continuously get lower and lower or is it just one sudden drop?'.
Those sort of questions are extremely important and if you cannot answer them then absolutely no one can help you. Tell us more about the problem.

[voidCaster]

Originally posted by Ishtar Toshlyra:

Randomly the game starts droppign its FPS.

Under OPTIONS->DISPLAY & GRAPHICS

Turn V-Sync OFF. This is the #1 cause of FPS drops in every game I play, including NMS and Shadow of War. V-Sync makes your GPU literally stop and wait periodically for a signal from the OS that previous data was FULLY sent to the display device, not just buffered for sending. So the better your GFX card gets while your monitor and connection cables stay the same, the worse V-Sync causes FPS drops.

If you have both an APU and also a discreet GFX card (or just multiple GFX cards) make sure the GPU selected in game options is the best one available.

I also suggest that, no matter how good your GFX card is, you set SHADOW QUALITY and REFLECTIONS to STANDARD and run with VOLUMETRIC EFFECTS at no higher than ENHANCED.

Every other graphics setting in NMS you can tinker with to see what makes the best mix of performance versus eye candy.

Edit: I should have specified that these settings work for me, without visual tearing or stuttering (unless you count the occasional freeze for that awful auto-save bug) with a Radeon RX 6650 XT on a system with a real CPU, no APU.

[Ishtar Toshlyra]

Originally posted by Unlucky:

Can you actually describe the problem you're experiencing, what you're usually doing (or various scenarios) when it happens, and what you're actually seeing on your screen?

No one can really help you if you just tell us that your "FPS drops"... That is not really enough information to go by... Tell us more about the problem itself... Not about your experiments/debugging. lol

Edit: The debugging info can sometimes be useful too, but for anyone to actually help they must understand what is actually happening and what the problem is. Things like a "FPS drop" are far too generic. You should be able to answer questions like 'What is happening in the game when this occurs?', 'How long has the game been running for?', 'How much is the FPS dropping? From what to what? Does it continuously get lower and lower or is it just one sudden drop?'.
Those sort of questions are extremely important and if you cannot answer them then absolutely no one can help you. Tell us more about the problem.

FPS drops = i play normally, i turn or enter planets or just spawn something, then the frames go from 60 to 35... then it goes even lower if i "endure" it... until i get 5 frames and have to restart.

As i said irs compolety random, sometimes i play for hours and no frame changes appear.
Example, one time i stand near my storage in my ship, i turn away from it and suddenly frrames go from 60 to 30 or lower...and its stays like this until game restart.>

or when entering orbit with foggy planets

or when placing walls in build mode...

but again, sometimes i can do all of this with nothing bad happening, and sometimes it gives the frame drops...


when i google my problem ro ask chat gpt it refers to this:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/739859-no-mans-sky/74155356

[anthony_4n7]

If you alt+tabbing, this is why. This update has this bug. Sometimes alt+tab works fine with windowed game sometimes its not. So I try to less alt+tabbing when I play NMS.

[Thord]

Have you tried different display modes? Fullscreen, Borderless and Window frame (name escapes me but it is "the other one"). Alt+Tab got me thinking of that.

Steam overlay enabled or disabled?

To be honest just brainstorming with things which have helped me in the past.

[druseljic]

following: Same issue. After a restart, regardless of what I do the fps just starts dropping until it gets into single numbers. This happens on both my laptop and desktop. Turned off v-sync in game but still having issues.

[Ishtar Toshlyra]

Originally posted by ThordTV:

Have you tried different display modes? Fullscreen, Borderless and Window frame (name escapes me but it is "the other one"). Alt+Tab got me thinking of that.

Steam overlay enabled or disabled?

To be honest just brainstorming with things which have helped me in the past.

Yes mate, i really dug into this, changing everything and the opposite of it.
Weirdly my System almost doesnt even care if the game runs or not.

When just browsing:
My cpu is about 35° celsius, the GFX Card at 43° with 51° on her hotspot.

When the game ( No mans Sky ) runs:
My cpu is about 64° celsius, the GFX Card at 56° with 61° on her hotspot.
and it seems to only use 60-80% of my harware performance.

This is weird, Fortnite and other games seem to use a lot more resources while having less issues, less fps drop, more general fps etc. It almost looks like the game, No mans Sky, "runs in the background" when fog appears, or when entering some orbits. But sometimes everything is fine and i hop galaxies/blackholes and systems with no problems.

And yeah as i said, sometimes it happens just after 10 minutes of playing, sometimes after 3 hours... so i really can not see any pattern here.

I even tried asking ChatGPT but all it refers to is maybe a memory leak. But why is it so randomly.. 10 minutes, 3 hours... hell one days even 8 hours without any issue... the other day i had to restart the game many times in a row.

it is so frustrating...

[Ishtar Toshlyra]

Originally posted by anthony_4n7:

If you alt+tabbing, this is why. This update has this bug. Sometimes alt+tab works fine with windowed game sometimes its not. So I try to less alt+tabbing when I play NMS.

Interesting, i noticed alt tab does weird things to NMS, but i rarely do it and my Issue sadly appears when i am focused.

[Alaxdeus]

I have an RX 6650 XT and I play without any stutter or fps drop with some ultra graphic settings. So far, my tweaks are these:

• Multiplayer off, fullscreen, triple buffering, max fps set to my max monitor's rate (75), enhanced shadows, enhanced reflections, high tessellation, and high planet quality. Everything else is set to ultra
  
• In driver settings (AMD Adrenalin) I've set the V-Sync to "Always On", and I've changed the max tessellation to x16. Anything else is disabled or putted to "use application settings"
  
• Disable "Fullscreen optimizations" and set the "High DPI scaling override" to application on NMS.exe
  
• Change the power plan to "Ultimate Performance"
  
• Enable Smart Access Memory (or Nvidia Resizable BAR)
  
• Disable "CPU Hyperthreading"

Also, I applied the regedit changes suggested in this video (DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK)

With these "tweaks" I play like 2 or 3 hours without any issues so far (no alt-tabbing, no unessential background apps). Also, in case this info helps, I think I can play with all ultra settings with little stuttering from time to time, but after some time the heat (cpu and gpu) increases around 85º C, so I have never tested play sessions longer than 30 or 40 minutes with ultra settings.

Hope it helps :)

[Ishtar Toshlyra]

Originally posted by Alaxdeus:

I have an RX 6650 XT and I play without any stutter or fps drop with some ultra graphic settings. So far, my tweaks are these:

• Multiplayer off, fullscreen, triple buffering, max fps set to my max monitor's rate (75), enhanced shadows, enhanced reflections, high tessellation, and high planet quality. Everything else is set to ultra
  
• In driver settings (AMD Adrenalin) I've set the V-Sync to "Always On", and I've changed the max tessellation to x16. Anything else is disabled or putted to "use application settings"
  
• Disable "Fullscreen optimizations" and set the "High DPI scaling override" to application on NMS.exe
  
• Change the power plan to "Ultimate Performance"
  
• Enable Smart Access Memory (or Nvidia Resizable BAR)
  
• Disable "CPU Hyperthreading"

Also, I applied the regedit changes suggested in this video (DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK)

With these "tweaks" I play like 2 or 3 hours without any issues so far (no alt-tabbing, no unessential background apps). Also, in case this info helps, I think I can play with all ultra settings with little stuttering from time to time, but after some time the heat (cpu and gpu) increases around 85º C, so I have never tested play sessions longer than 30 or 40 minutes with ultra settings.

Hope it helps :)

tried different gfx seeting and even different PCs, frame randoms drop to 5 or lower after landing or changing camera directions, but sometimes i can play for hours at 60fps...

what i noticed it when teh frames drop, No mans Sky has 3% CPU load...

why would the game stop using my hardware resources??? what is this?

[Alaxdeus]

Originally posted by Ishtar Toshlyra:

tried different gfx seeting and even different PCs, frame randoms drop to 5 or lower after landing or changing camera directions, but sometimes i can play for hours at 60fps...

what i noticed it when teh frames drop, No mans Sky has 3% CPU load...

why would the game stop using my hardware resources??? what is this?

On Windows Settings, go to "System>About>Advanced System Settings", and then to "Advanced>Performance Settings>Advanced" and change the option "Adjust for best performance of:" to "Background services". Try a long play session with that change and tell us if there is any difference. I read on internet that this change resolved that issue for some players.

Also remember to don't change any graphic setting during the gameplay, bc that same issue happens to me when I change the graphic settings during gameplay: all of the sudden, frame drops to 45 fps and cpu load around 10%... really annoying.

PS: I manage to lower temp to 70~º C during gameplays, and yup, game runs smoothly for hours with no issues on ultra settings, so you should also take a look at your pc temp too, seems like nms don't like high temperatures (weird bc I have played long play sessions of The Witcher 3 on Ultra+ settings and never had a problem).

[Ishtar Toshlyra]

Originally posted by Alaxdeus:

Originally posted by Ishtar Toshlyra:

tried different gfx seeting and even different PCs, frame randoms drop to 5 or lower after landing or changing camera directions, but sometimes i can play for hours at 60fps...

what i noticed it when teh frames drop, No mans Sky has 3% CPU load...

why would the game stop using my hardware resources??? what is this?

On Windows Settings, go to "System>About>Advanced System Settings", and then to "Advanced>Performance Settings>Advanced" and change the option "Adjust for best performance of:" to "Background services". Try a long play session with that change and tell us if there is any difference. I read on internet that this change resolved that issue for some players.

Also remember to don't change any graphic setting during the gameplay, bc that same issue happens to me when I change the graphic settings during gameplay: all of the sudden, frame drops to 45 fps and cpu load around 10%... really annoying.

PS: I manage to lower temp to 70~º C during gameplays, and yup, game runs smoothly for hours with no issues on ultra settings, so you should also take a look at your pc temp too, seems like nms don't like high temperatures (weird bc I have played long play sessions of The Witcher 3 on Ultra+ settings and never had a problem).

New data, my max temp on my CPU reaches 72°, the background thing didnt change anything so far.

btw i use a 1050 ti and a ryzen 5 2600X, playing on a fresh SSD

[Ishtar Toshlyra]

Time for an Update so far.

Review System

Win 10 x64, Ryzen 5 2600x, 16 GB Gskill Ram, Gigabyte B450M DS3H rev1 with BIOS version F62 ( before i had the stock F1 BIOS )

I again reinstalled windows, and only installed Steam, Epic Games, Genshin Impact, Rainmeter, HW Info, Core Temp, GPUz and Nvidia Drivers.

With BIOS F1 version i still had the same issue.
ISSUE: landing, using UI or build mode sometimes/randomly seemed to trigger what i call "coma FPS state" means the frames drop from 60+ to 10 and less .. until i restart that game.
Only happening in NMS of course.

The FPS drops are happening for the other PC too but less frequently and not as bad, only from 60 to 25, but far less often ), slightly difference CPU and Motherboard though ( Ryzen 5 5600 on a gigabyte b550m mb ).Maybe the difference is playstyle too.. i open more menus and race to more planets than my wife.

Both systems run Fortnite, Genshin and some other titles without issue at aprox the same performance.

So in my journey finding out what the problem could be i found someone on the net saying he updated his bios and his problem where gone, also reading things about memory issues etc... Since my last resort would be upgrading my CPU to the same as the other Sys uses i decided to touch the hot topic of updating my BIOS.

Before i did, i contacted Gigabyte and asked them if my 2600x will still run on the F62 BIOS and what exactly i need to do, due to me being unsure about install order and the sheer amount of possible updates...
They answered relatively quickly and told me to go from F1 to F32 to F40 to F62, and that my Ryzen 5 2600x will run on that new BIOS.

Since i am very impatient i updated to F2 before they could answer and tried running NMS again, not for long but i did all critical things that caused "coma FPS state" before... with nothing happening so far. Oh and there was "memory compatibility" in the BIOS notes.. so i thought why not give it a try.

But after i got mail from Gigabyte i decided to update to F62 anyway, just in case i need to install the new CPU and/or NMS still get into coma FPS state.

Lots of other things in reallife happen so i can barely play right now, i will update on performance and if coma FPS state returns or if BIOS updating fixed it.

As a side note i find it weird that this is only happening to NMS... even Cyberpunk runs fine. and IF this is fixed by the BIOS update then i am clueless why it works.. maybe to do with how NMS uses memory?

Oh yeah and i tried everything possible before, editing the gfx setting file with max cores etc...different gfx drivers, windows setting, overlay setting on and off, performance mode fullscreen, borderless etc.. admin mode all of it.. even asking ChatGPT.

Anyway i will report back after i played for longer, or IF the problem return...

stay tuned

[Half Slav]

All good and well but V-Sync only limits fps, so if his GPU can reach 200FPS and his monitor only is 60hz they put it on to cap fps on 60.It's why people use it .to get rid of screen tear...so if he has FPS drops you can't blame V-syinc--some GPU's burn up because they make too much frames with no reason.Only thing that V-sync causes in input lag sometimes very severe.

[Dark Forest]

Originally posted by Unlucky:

Can you actually describe the problem you're experiencing, what you're usually doing (or various scenarios) when it happens, and what you're actually seeing on your screen?

No one can really help you if you just tell us that your "FPS drops"... That is not really enough information to go by... Tell us more about the problem itself... Not about your experiments/debugging. lol

Edit: The debugging info can sometimes be useful too, but for anyone to actually help they must understand what is actually happening and what the problem is. Things like a "FPS drop" are far too generic. You should be able to answer questions like 'What is happening in the game when this occurs?', 'How long has the game been running for?', 'How much is the FPS dropping? From what to what? Does it continuously get lower and lower or is it just one sudden drop?'.
Those sort of questions are extremely important and if you cannot answer them then absolutely no one can help you. Tell us more about the problem.

I have more locking issues with nms vr since updating to win 11 and I am researching that on one hand. Prior to the win 11 upgrade I had problems with game freezing up when changing names things like planets, ships, etc.. not when I enter but when I pull up the keyboard to actually put in the new names, also happens with communication beacons. I could resolve it by backing out but post win 11 upgrade I have to go to my computer and close out steam and restart.