Friend and I can no longer play MP

[Tolwyn]

Both of us are PC players. Have played COUNTLESS hours.
Both in Normal-Mode Saves, are Steam friends, etc.

I go into Network to click on her name on the left, and it just says "show steam profile" not invite to game.

Tried Steam Overlay, and there's no "invite to game" at all.

Am I missing something? This has worked everytime except now.

[Uncle Doomer]

Are both of your games updated to the same version? I have read if they're not, you'll get an error message about a version mismatch.

If that's not the issue, then the current patch may or may not have broken it.

[Azure Fang]

I believe they changed the multiplayer endpoints a while back. The most accurate way to join a friend is to have one start a session normally, then the joining friend chooses Multiplayer from the main menu. Note that the "host" must not be offline on Steam (whether in offline mode or have their visibility set to offline) otherwise they will not appear in the menu.

An alternate method is to simply be in the same space station. Eventually server states will merge and the system will be converted into a passive multiplayer session. At that point, one can invite the other by interacting with them.

[Tolwyn]

We were able to do so on March 6. Now, not able. Is the 6th "a while back?"

[Azure Fang]

I haven't been able to see friends list invites for NMS since last year. That just tells me it's a Steam thing, then. I still gave you two ways to initiate multiplayer.

[Tolwyn]

It might be my Steam Profile privacy settings. I'll report back.

[Tolwyn]

Nope. There's definitely something wrong. And it's worked fine on the 6th of this month.
We've NEVER had to use the Multiplayer (on the right); just "Play Game" on the left when starting the game.

We've always been able to invite each other from the Network menu now it just says "Show Profile"

We "kinda" got it working by simply using the Steam Overlay, but only *I* can invite her into game. She, when using the Steam Overlay doesn't show "invite to game" on hers. We've done this COUNTLESS of times. She has 1000 hours, I have nearly 2000. So I know we're both old as dirt, but I don't think either of us has had a stroke. Hahahah.

We're Steam Friends, I show up on her list, she shows up on mine.
We tested with Golf 2K21, Premium Bowling, et al and it doesn't seem to be a Steam issue. (?)

[Tolwyn]

Originally posted by Ultimarok:

Are both of your games updated to the same version? I have read if they're not, you'll get an error message about a version mismatch.

If that's not the issue, then the current patch may or may not have broken it.

Yeah. we checked the build version of NMS, we also checked the version of Steam. All the same.

[DennisM the Diligent]

I agree with @Azure Fang's original comments here. I start with the first method (second player joins a session via the Multiplayer start). If that doesn't work, my friend and I either go to the same space station or to one of our bases that we can both access, and wait a minute or two for the other to appear in the game, then we get into a group and we're good. Did this as recently as yesterday.

[Musashi]

@Tolwyn
Did just test it ...
In Space or on Ground :
Nearby List ---> Empty
View NMS Friends List ---> Left side : Only Show Steam Profile
---------------------------->Right Side : Remove NMS Friend

In Anomaly :
Nearby List ----> Playerlist where every player has up to 3 option : Add...Block...Invite

[Tolwyn]

So it's broke, right?
We've never had to go to the Anomoly or a Space Station to start a Coop session.
Always have Network turned off and "other players can still join your session..."

The way it worked was I would send the invite, the other player chooses which "save" to start from, or if already in game, I believe they got a pop up or used the Steam Overlay.

@Cptn ❄m0d3r4t0r❄ - just the Steam overlay. Nothing else running on either PC. I did have my privacy settings a little too strict (probably changed them a week ago, and changed them back for testing - that actually got us 70% back to normal).

I'll try to get an OBS recording and post it somewhere.

Originally posted by Musashi:

@Tolwyn
Did just test it ...
In Space or on Ground :
Nearby List ---> Empty
View NMS Friends List ---> Left side : Only Show Steam Profile
---------------------------->Right Side : Remove NMS Friend

In Anomaly :
Nearby List ----> Playerlist where every player has up to 3 option : Add...Block...Invite

[Musashi]

I would say ... its maybe a new way how it works now ... And Steam overlay has absolutly nothing to do with it ...
And it works if I create a session.. choose my save..as soons as this is loaded others (depending on my Network Settings) can join... that was always the case and is the case right now..

[Tolwyn]

There must have been something wrong with Steam a few days ago. It seems to be working the way we remember it to be working. And yes, we can host a session and do it that way, too.

The other issue we discovered is that separately, if we're in the same system in SP, before we can join on one anothers' session, one of us has to dismiss their capital ship.

In the past, it wasn't absolutely required (the other players' capital ship would just be invisible), but it's a hard NO now.

[Osajack]

Two of us have also had similar issues where it says "failed to join lobby" when I'd try and join her hosting, we also tried it where I hosted and she got "Failed to connect" or sometimes nothing at all happens.

I can however join one of my other friends without any issues and so can he with me. We've tried meeting up at the same place going via the nexus and a settlement that someones made so we're exactly at the same spot, yet it still will not work. Is this an issue on our side or is Steam/NMS just being a bit "iffy" for the moment?

PS: We did recently get the game aswell and we only have a few hours into the game. Idk if you need to progress the story line past a certain point but we feel a bit lost, any input would be helpful thank you :)

[Musashi]

@Osajack
First I would not advise to do the tutorial in Multiplayer .. that would most the time screw up the quest..
The fact that you can play in Multiplayer with other players means your site is ok.
Did you both exchange your Friends Code?
Are you both on PC/Steam ?
Does your friend have a certain Antivir Software installed, which may have a firewall setting which may be the reason?

Inbound rules in win defender should have TCP and UDP Protol
Is ProcessLasso installed?
What country are you both ?
Is in theyre Router UPnP enabled ?

[Osajack]

@Musashi

1: Yes we exchanged friends code
2: Yes we are both on PC/Steam (she plays on controller via PC though)
3: Yes she is using win defender however TCP and UDP protocol is not enabled yet. (not really what it is)
4: ProcessLasso is not installed
5: She is currently in South Africa, I am in Sweden (so it's quite a considerable distance)
6: Uncertain regarding UPnP will ask to ask.

Hope that narrows it down. I'll come back tomorrow to see if theres a reply but it's rather late so it'll have to do for now till tomorrow for answers.