Planetary charts, anyone?

[Smiling Spectre]

Ok, I read internet, and I know the game haven't the planets' charts. And it's weird. Game has relative coordinates. Game remembers every grenade drop. Game stimulates sector discoveries... and I cannot even check any of this discovery?!

But maybe there is some relief? Mod? Planned feature? Something? Problem looks too simple and widespread to not be treated, right?

[tkwoods]

Game is not coded for repeat stays and repeat visits to the same areas. It is meant to be an exploration game where you forge into new areas.

You don't need a details charting at all. It serves no real purpose in the grand scheme of the game.

[Krash Megiddo]

I agree with OP. Some sort of planetary [mini map + "you are here" + points of interest already discovered] would be appreciated. It would be useful even if reset every save/reload.

[wkitty42]

Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:

I agree with OP. Some sort of planetary [mini map + "you are here" + points of interest already discovered] would be appreciated. It would be useful even if reset every save/reload.

i've been using the tab that shows the planets in a system...when you select the planet you are on, there's a marker that shows where you are on-planet... i mostly use it to see how far i am north or south but sometimes also so i can know which way to go find an ocean or large body of water... too bad there's no way to rotate the planet to see all around it but so far doing this has been ok for me...

but yeah... even though there are up to 6 POIs recorded, there's no current way in-game to mark one of them so you can easily go back there for whatever reason...

[UncreativelyNamed]

I would like some sort of planetary map because I'm a person who spends a lot of time exploring planets on foot, and it would be fun to see just how much of one I've explored and where I've been and haven't yet been.

I do sometimes wish there was an easy way to revisit a place I found. Like, if I find a crashed ship that I'd like to have but I'm not yet ready to claim it. (Yes, I know you can summon them later, but I don't want to claim a bunch of ships only to find ones I like later. I'd like to be able to "bookmark" the sites and then keep notes about which ships are where and then decide which ones I want to claim and which I want to scrap, etc.) I tried putting down the beacons that you can place when you're using the analysis visor, but it seems as if those disappear after a while?

But on the other hand, I realize that this isn't the way that, so I've seen, people typically play this game, nor do I think the game is really intended to be one where you spend many, many hours exploring a single planet. :) I'd also be concerned about file size and things like that if the game kept progressive maps of each planet I visit and start to explore. So on the whole, I'm OK with no maps, too.

[Mr. Bufferlow]

It would be nice to somehow have a history of bases you have visited at least during a session. (At least of the expeditions)

It is correct that the original game made no provision for mapping or bookmarking a site (other then a colored save beacon or base computer). The idea was you should be moving on, but that was before we even had a base.

I have a feeling HG is avoiding pulling the curtain back so we would know the POIs are basically in a grid structure on each planet. I never use the planetary maps and always find what I need because after 4,000 hours I just have a feel for where they are going to plop the next one.

That is also probably why the ship scanner is less accurate than the suit scanner for POIs. If the ship scanner was too accurate, it would take a lot of the fun of seeking from of the game and probably also lead to figuring out the pattern of POIs on a planet.

It would ruin the experience if folks were able to identify the grid(s) in use and what planet type had what grid. It would make exploring pretty dull.

It is already pretty easy to sort out the primary types of POIs for a planet. I always enjoy when I find one early game that has a drop pod every 300 meters or so.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:

I agree with OP. Some sort of planetary [mini map + "you are here" + points of interest already discovered] would be appreciated. It would be useful even if reset every save/reload.

100% agree.

[Smiling Spectre]

Originally posted by tkwoods:

Game is not coded for repeat stays and repeat visits to the same areas. It is meant to be an exploration game where you forge into new areas.

You don't need a details charting at all. It serves no real purpose in the grand scheme of the game.

Not exactly true.

Game, of course, not intended for such play - internally. But for the user, it's all about exploration, making charts, trading coordinates and seek the things... only _you_ cannot see anything of it, surprisingly. I think, it's an omission. Weird one.

And I am not needed "detail charting" in terms of deposits, mountains, caves, etc. What I need is the info I supposed to have (and even trade!): mapped sectors and POI in them. "You are here, you can go there, and there are _these_ POI there too". I believe, even some Amiga could produce such chart, not talking about modern PC.

[The Knowledge Seeker]

One thing that I have been doing, and I will test it out at another point to see if it will be useful, is I upload those save points at locations.

For example, I land at a point of interest and it is a settlement with an S class multitool, I will click on the way point in my discoveries, rename to "Found S class pistol here". Eventually I want to take a walk around and see if they stick.

[wkitty42]

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

I will click on the way point in my discoveries, rename to "Found S class pistol here".

picture(s) please?? i've clicked on the POIs in my Discoveries for a planet but nothing has happened... you can rename them? are you still on the planet when you do this or can it be done at any time?

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by wkitty42:

picture(s) please?? i've clicked on the POIs in my Discoveries for a planet but nothing has happened... you can rename them? are you still on the planet when you do this or can it be done at any time?

In discovery, the waypoints that show up in the upper right (above minerals). You can rename them just like you can flora, fauna and minerals. You just have to rename them before uploading. So if you press the "Upload all" button, it will be too late to rename them (the same as any other things that can be renamed).

The hotkey (or button) that you need to press in order to rename is on the mouse over tooltip. You use that hotkey to rename.

Here's screenshots showing the process:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992991005
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992990993
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992990982

[The Knowledge Seeker]

Originally posted by wkitty42:

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

I will click on the way point in my discoveries, rename to "Found S class pistol here".

picture(s) please?? i've clicked on the POIs in my Discoveries for a planet but nothing has happened... you can rename them? are you still on the planet when you do this or can it be done at any time?

When you are at a location with the white pole to make a manual save, click it to save. Press escape and go to the discoveries tab, on the right will be the waypoints. Press x to rename and upload. It should rename the area as what ever you named it.

[Krash Megiddo]

I didn't know Waypoints could be renamed. Thanks Jaggid!

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

I think those are set at the default upload private settings

Thanks for letting me know, I had changed it before uploading them, but obviously the upload went through as If I had not done so. >.<

[The Knowledge Seeker]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Originally posted by The Knowledge Seeker:

I think those are set at the default upload private settings

Thanks for letting me know, I had changed it before uploading them, but obviously the upload went through as If I had not done so. >.<

You are welcome, I went ahead and deleted my post it since it is fixed :)

[wkitty42]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Here's screenshots showing the process:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2992991005

thank you! is that new with the feature to save things you find interesting? i've not seen that popup before but i have seen the upload button on the POI images...