[Reddit Stuff] A real life game dev gives their opinion on the NMS Situation. Claims 'Not as Black and White as it seems'

[Fluffy Monster Thing]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4ydj0q/a_video_game_developers_opinion_on_what_happened/

Here you go guys. Basically it covers alot of things that could of happened. The guy works for obsidian entertainment and stuff. They can provide credentials and whatnot to prove it too.

I kind of sit on the same viewpoint of this guy wherein 'yeah its a bit broken but probably not on complete purpose.' with a side of 'Why Would Sean commit career suicide on his passion project, knowing NMS probably wont carry him forever'

[WolfEisberg]

Messaggio originale di Therinfluffs :3:

Messaggio originale di fariic:

I don't disagree with this, and in fact I put blame on Sony.

But Hello Games is the publisher, they're ultimately responsible.
They're the ones that knew things got cut, and promote things they knew wouldn't be in the game.

Sean knew when he said that you would be able to shoot other people and need to see another player in order to see yourself, that neither of those things would be possible.

Sony may be responsible for putting Hello Games in a positiion that they needed to release before the game was ready, but Sean was the one the chose to keep promoting the game as having things he knew it wouldn't have on launch, because he knew they would sell fewer copies if he said they had to cut a lot of things.

Sadly gag orders tend to get squeezed into these contracts. Putting the devs in a worse position where if they try to menton whats gone so wrong, they get sued.

Sure, with contracts with publishers, not with contracts with distributitors where distributors have no power over the development of the game and information releases.

And if you really want to believe what you are saying, it is still Hello Games fault for signing a contract that forces them to lie for a distributor who isn't even paying for the funding of the development of the game.

Any lying that happened, it is 100% the fault of Hello Games (Sean Murry), nobody else can be blamed.

[fariic]

Messaggio originale di eisberg:

Messaggio originale di Therinfluffs :3:

You neglect the third party distributor who had complete control over their funding too. Sony had control over the release date pretty much.

Sony had nothing to do with the funding of this game. Hello Games funded it themselves. If Sony had complete control over funding, then they would be the publisher, but they are not the publisher for the game at all Hello Games is. A distributor doesn't have a say in when a game gets released, that is the publishers job.

Sony could have provided all the kits and dev support to get the game up and runing on PS4, in exchange for the console exclusive.

Sony expects the game to make hundreds of millions, they'll get a cut from thier PSN store, and potentially sell more PS4s.

The game was originally pushed as primarilly a PC game, it wasn't until Sony got involved that they started pushing it heavily as a PS4 game.

Sony also footed the bill on marketting.

[Chargeit]

So basically features may be in the game at one point then not work out because of *bugs/issues. The time isn't available to fix them so they're removed. Removing some features can have a cascading affect on other features which were dependent on other removed features.

Sounds like the game needed more time in development.

*Well, features may work independently, but, once all tied together and tested out the bugs start showing up which may or may not be easily fixed.

[Leviathan]

Hello Games' biggest problem is failure of communcation. I've noticed early on, that they didn't update their Facebook page for 5-6 months, there wasn't any blog or similar. Not even Twitter.
Where are they working? North Korea?

[fariic]

Messaggio originale di Leviathan:

Hello Games' biggest problem is failure of communcation. I've noticed early on, that they didn't update their Facebook page for 5-6 months, there wasn't any blog or similar. Not even Twitter.
Where are they working? North Korea?

Who has time to update twitter and facebook accounts when you're busy with a latenight talkshow tour, right before taking off for an international youtuber tour, while juggling gaming conventions....

Communication was absolutely the problem, Sean didn't know when to stfu.

[Atma]

I feel like this would have been much more interesting had this dev actually made himself aware of the nuances of No Man's Sky's tragic unfulfilled promises.

[lnomsim]

Messaggio originale di Therinfluffs :3:

Messaggio originale di fariic:

"We don't mean to release unfinished games, missing content we said was there; we just have to because things that are our problem, and it could take a week or month to fix it."

You neglect the third party distributor who had complete control over their funding too. Sony had control over the release date pretty much.

No... no... it can't be.... on the title sreen it is said that no other party was involved in the makin gof the game... How could it be ?