Sony's Shuhei Yoshida blames HG on No Man's Sky PR disaster

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-09-16-sonys-shuhei-yoshida-on-no-mans-sky


"Shuhei Yoshida, the popular president of Sony's Worldwide Studios, has said he understands why some fans were critical of controversial space survival sim No Man's Sky - and blamed Hello Games' pre-release PR strategy for building up unrealistic expectations.

Disgruntled gamers complained about the absence of features and functionality in the final release that development chief Sean Murray had previously referred to in interviews and previews, ranging from multiplayer mechanics to the complexity of its combat and trading systems.

Speaking to Eurogamer at the Tokyo Game Show, Shuhei Yoshida said: "I had the opportunity to play the game right before launch - and I restarted playing the game on launch day with the Day One patch - so I could see the struggle for the developers to get the game out in the state that they wanted."

Yoshida said that personally, he "really enjoyed" playing No Man's Sky but could appreciate why others might not feel the same way.

"I understand some of the criticisms especially Sean Murray is getting, because he sounded like he was promising more features in the game from day one.

"It wasn't a great PR strategy, because he didn't have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer. But he says their plan is to continue to develop No Man's Sky features and such, and I'm looking forward to continuing to play the game.""

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[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Цитата допису Snake Plissken:

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

They didn't counter sue for their court fees and they didn't win, they settled, which means they had to pay probably a large amount for it. To give you an idea how strict the owners of the word 'Sky' are, they sued Mircosoft for their Skydrive, and mircosoft completely had the suit dropped and changed the name. For mircosoft not to defend a product should ring some bells that they didnt feel strong enough to be able to win.

Yeah yeah blah blah blah millions in court fees right?

You don't know the nature of the settlement let alone the court costs

I'm sorry do you not understand how courts work at all? Yeah thats right you have no experience in major companies at all. Settlements outside of courts are almost ALWAYS said out in public that it was settled outside of court. When you are SUED and brought TO COURT however settlements only happen after a certain phase.

Stop trying to poke in. You lost our last discussion heavily I doubt you want to completely be made a fool of again.

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Цитата допису smeagledorf:

wasn’t a great PR strategy????????? wtf Shuhei Yoshida you were the pr people LOL

That there is what boggles and confuses me. They say this about him, but weren't they supposed to provide PR and support? Or were they? I think they set deadlines, limits and contraints on him, did their own console thing, and left him to squirm in interviews. Any game company should really know, you don't have the creator and main dev up there constantly, showcasing their own work.

I think this is typical Sony for you, at the expense of HG.

Loving the game, waiting for further developement, but I shook my head and groaned the day I heard it was going to be multi platform with Sony publishing it for Playstation.

It started out as a pc game, from a tiny studio that needed way more time to complete and deliver. Sony is a doubled edged blade, offering both publishing and various support and delivery forms, but also very brutal on other developers, with a insane delivery and rollout schedule, that quite possibly forced many game aspects to be input later, in order to meet the release.
I am fairly certain the price tag was set by Sony too, to cover their input and deep publisher price.

Hello Games may have gone huge with a major AAA title, a feat from a 4 person indie studio, but I think they paid the price. Lets hope they and NMS survive Sony Publishing.

[Gekkibi]

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

I'm sorry, all you showed me was that they showcased the game. Showcased what was told be showcase. You had no shred of evidence supporting that Sony was 100% on board and said things that Sean didn't say about NMS.

Also, by your logic of proof..... you are basically saying that Bethesda's parent company Zenimax who owns Bethesda and id software, was 100% id softwares PR department showcasing off Brink, Rage, and Doom, when Bethesda did the same things Sony did in this and they were publishers, not just distrubtors. Anyway, it was shown that id did ALL of their own PR and working from a major company that owns smaller companys our PR does not step in until anything can come back to us, the parent company.

You clearly have no idea on how corporations work and how they function and what departments have say in what. I can ONLY see Sony being incharge of HG PR if they had an agreement were HG would be full owned by Sony which we havent seen anything on.

http://www.eteknix.com/sony-admits-it-fluffed-no-mans-sky-pr/

...I'm sure you read the article and not just the clickbait-title, right..?

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

I'm sorry, all you showed me was that they showcased the game. Showcased what was told be showcase. You had no shred of evidence supporting that Sony was 100% on board and said things that Sean didn't say about NMS.

Also, by your logic of proof..... you are basically saying that Bethesda's parent company Zenimax who owns Bethesda and id software, was 100% id softwares PR department showcasing off Brink, Rage, and Doom, when Bethesda did the same things Sony did in this and they were publishers, not just distrubtors. Anyway, it was shown that id did ALL of their own PR and working from a major company that owns smaller companys our PR does not step in until anything can come back to us, the parent company.

You clearly have no idea on how corporations work and how they function and what departments have say in what. I can ONLY see Sony being incharge of HG PR if they had an agreement were HG would be full owned by Sony which we havent seen anything on.

http://www.eteknix.com/sony-admits-it-fluffed-no-mans-sky-pr/

I'm sorry, this article isn't that creditable. This is just the same recycled stuff we have seen in other articles with a title that simply says Sony admits. You still have yet to provide actual proof that Sony was IN CHARGE of HG PR.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

http://www.eteknix.com/sony-admits-it-fluffed-no-mans-sky-pr/

...I'm sure you read the article and not just the clickbait-title, right..?

I'm glad you're paying attention too. xD Like after just skimming it I saw the same stuff and instantly dismissed it.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

I'm sorry, all you showed me was that they showcased the game. Showcased what was told be showcase. You had no shred of evidence supporting that Sony was 100% on board and said things that Sean didn't say about NMS.

Also, by your logic of proof..... you are basically saying that Bethesda's parent company Zenimax who owns Bethesda and id software, was 100% id softwares PR department showcasing off Brink, Rage, and Doom, when Bethesda did the same things Sony did in this and they were publishers, not just distrubtors. Anyway, it was shown that id did ALL of their own PR and working from a major company that owns smaller companys our PR does not step in until anything can come back to us, the parent company.

You clearly have no idea on how corporations work and how they function and what departments have say in what. I can ONLY see Sony being incharge of HG PR if they had an agreement were HG would be full owned by Sony which we havent seen anything on.

http://www.eteknix.com/sony-admits-it-fluffed-no-mans-sky-pr/


fluff
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VERB
make (something) appear fuller and softer, typically by shaking or brushing it:

Sony is a fluffer!!!!

Yeah, did you even READ the article though? I saw you edit this post so I quoted it again.
It is the SAME article everyone else posted but with a title that says 'Sony Admits' without providing any proof that they admit. Its the same damn quotes from Sony.... none of which admits that they fluffed it, if you read it you'd see that it STILL says Sean Murray deserves all of it. Congrats. You are simply just proving you didn't do any research and show you are just going to attatch links you think are creditable here.

[Gekkibi]

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

...I'm sure you read the article and not just the clickbait-title, right..?

I'm glad you're paying attention too. xD Like after just skimming it I saw the same stuff and instantly dismissed it.

Unlike most, I prefer to actually read the citations and sources instead of just demanding them. It's worth it if I can spot quote mining or if the article contradicts with everything the person claims.

[smeagledorf]

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

http://www.eteknix.com/sony-admits-it-fluffed-no-mans-sky-pr/

...I'm sure you read the article and not just the clickbait-title, right..?

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

...I'm sure you read the article and not just the clickbait-title, right..?

I'm glad you're paying attention too. xD Like after just skimming it I saw the same stuff and instantly dismissed it.

Of course you did, most people dismiss what is the truth

While No Man’s Sky has been a commercial success for Sony, its reception since release has been mixed, to be generous. Sean Murray – lead developer for No Man’s Sky creator Hello Games – has been accused of being this generation’s Peter Molyneux, with his pre-release promises of what the game would be not borne out by the final product. It seems Shuhei Yoshida. President of Sony Worldwide Studios, agrees with such criticisms, admitting that the game’s pre-release PR strategy was misjudged.

“I understand some of the criticisms especially Sean Murray is getting, because he sounded like he was promising more features in the game from day one,” Yoshida told EuroGamer. “It wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer.

But he says their plan is to continue to develop No Man’s Sky features and such, and I’m looking forward to continuing to play the game.”

Despite this mistake, Yoshida is happy with No Man’s Sky – denying that it has tainted the PlayStation name – and is excited to see what the game evolves into now that Hello Games is no longer constrained by rushing to hit a release date.

“I am super happy with the game actually, and I’m amazed with the sales the game has gotten, so I’m not the right person to judge if it has ‘harmed’ the PlayStation brand,” Yoshida said. “I personally don’t think so. If anything, I am proud that people can play No Man’s Sky on PS4 as well as PC.”

“I had the opportunity to play the game right before launch – and I restarted playing the game on launch day with the Day One patch – so I could see the struggle for the developers to get the game out in the state that they wanted,” he added.

Fluff! good ole sony. The porn fluffers of the gaming industry

[Gekkibi]

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Of course you did, most people dismiss what is the truth

This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?

Besides, not sure why you decided to quote the whole article. Why should I read it the 2nd time?

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

...I'm sure you read the article and not just the clickbait-title, right..?

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

I'm glad you're paying attention too. xD Like after just skimming it I saw the same stuff and instantly dismissed it.

Of course you did, most people dismiss what is the truth

While No Man’s Sky has been a commercial success for Sony, its reception since release has been mixed, to be generous. Sean Murray – lead developer for No Man’s Sky creator Hello Games – has been accused of being this generation’s Peter Molyneux, with his pre-release promises of what the game would be not borne out by the final product. It seems Shuhei Yoshida. President of Sony Worldwide Studios, agrees with such criticisms, admitting that the game’s pre-release PR strategy was misjudged.

“I understand some of the criticisms especially Sean Murray is getting, because he sounded like he was promising more features in the game from day one,” Yoshida told EuroGamer. “It wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer.

But he says their plan is to continue to develop No Man’s Sky features and such, and I’m looking forward to continuing to play the game.”

Despite this mistake, Yoshida is happy with No Man’s Sky – denying that it has tainted the PlayStation name – and is excited to see what the game evolves into now that Hello Games is no longer constrained by rushing to hit a release date.

“I am super happy with the game actually, and I’m amazed with the sales the game has gotten, so I’m not the right person to judge if it has ‘harmed’ the PlayStation brand,” Yoshida said. “I personally don’t think so. If anything, I am proud that people can play No Man’s Sky on PS4 as well as PC.”

“I had the opportunity to play the game right before launch – and I restarted playing the game on launch day with the Day One patch – so I could see the struggle for the developers to get the game out in the state that they wanted,” he added.

Fluff! good ole sony. The porn fluffers of the gaming industry

Soooo basically what I am seeing here is that Sony didn't have overall say in what Sean Murray said. I already covered these SAME quotes earlier and what they mean.

Sean Murray did everything on his own.
Sony had PR to only prevent him talking about certain topics like Xbox
Sony says they are happy despite the flak, most likely because they got a TON of money from sales.

You aren't providing PROOF here. You are providing quotes and simply saying that they are 100% proof they were at fault. How can you not see that is beyond me.

Matter of fact it says word for word there was no Sony PR rep to help Sean. So we can either go my route and simply say there WAS PR but they were only to prevent certain topics or we can go your route where you quoted an article and took it as proof to your claims and we can then just keep quoting 'It wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer'

[smeagledorf]

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Of course you did, most people dismiss what is the truth

This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?

Besides, not sure why you decided to quote the whole article. Why should I read it the 2nd time?

"This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?"

lol But that sure was fun to quote at least mine was in the realm of real facts and comments your just throwing tinfoil remarks out at people. Copy and paste to someone elses comment as well. I think you like your own comment a little too much.

[Gekkibi]

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?

Besides, not sure why you decided to quote the whole article. Why should I read it the 2nd time?

"This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?"

lol But that sure was fun to quote at least mine was in the real of real facts and comments your just throwing tinfoil remarks out at people. Copy and paste to someone elses comment as well. I think you like your own comment a little too much.

Real facts? Where? All you have is your assertions and completely irrelevant sources random links.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?

Besides, not sure why you decided to quote the whole article. Why should I read it the 2nd time?

"This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?"

lol But that sure was fun to quote at least mine was in the real of real facts and comments your just throwing tinfoil remarks out at people. Copy and paste to someone elses comment as well. I think you like your own comment a little too much.

No. He said that because you aren't understanding what you are bringing up in your post is further proving Sony was not in-charge of PR.

Your own damn dumb article that had a clickbait title that is not true even says WORD FOR WORD

it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Цитата допису Gekkibi:

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

"This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?"

lol But that sure was fun to quote at least mine was in the real of real facts and comments your just throwing tinfoil remarks out at people. Copy and paste to someone elses comment as well. I think you like your own comment a little too much.

Real facts? Where? All you have is your assertions and completely irrelevant sources random links.

Just keep quoting this line from his own articles he is putting up

It wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer -Sony quote about Sean Murray

[smeagledorf]

Цитата допису (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

Цитата допису smeagledorf:

"This starts to sound like a conspiracy nutjobbery. Do you have enough tin foil so that you can protect yourself from the mindcontrol rays?"

lol But that sure was fun to quote at least mine was in the real of real facts and comments your just throwing tinfoil remarks out at people. Copy and paste to someone elses comment as well. I think you like your own comment a little too much.

No. He said that because you aren't understanding what you are bringing up in your post is further proving Sony was not in-charge of PR.

Your own damn dumb article that had a clickbait title that is not true even says WORD FOR WORD

it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer
it wasn’t a great PR strategy, because he didn’t have a PR person helping him, and in the end he is an indie developer

copy paste more! Sony was the pr people case closed im done with the kids.