Why do people still believe Sean Murray/Hello Games?

[shabba]

All this talk about "free" "DLC"...

People really believe the guy who lied about just about everything in the game?

[Tolan Grimm]

I think the fact that Mr. Murray has said nothing at all about why NMS was in the state it's in speaks volumes about his character, and his company. I own the game on GOG (DRM free), so I have a dog in this race. There are absolutely no details on where the game goes from here, and he is as vague as ever. This should be the last game Hello Game ever releases. If Mr. Murray's name is on any other game going forward, we should stay very far away indeed.

[WizzardNZ]

洗練Reme♦ původně napsal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEdHL1cZcVA

This Video sums it all up pretty well :). I laughed so hard lol.

[Draxus[PL]]

I dont nead to belive Sean Murray, i dont care about Sean Murray. I just enjoy the game and have hope of future improvments free or pay.

[Skyneon]

I believe him because so far nobodies give a proof he acrualy meant to lie.

Whe have missing features ok right (like that the first game used script show case)

But i never see a proof of why they are missing, for all we know they could he missing because they dont work, because sony asked to remove them for the ps4, because some devs scew ...

I also see when he knew it will be no multiplayer he post it on is tweter, and also the game was tag single player at least two weeks before the release.


So because i trust the sentence : innocent until proven guilty, and nobodies show any proof, i trust him, that call act like an adult and not like a spoiled kid.

[Wild]

Grailer původně napsal:

the list of “missing” features is pretty interesting reading. Here are the highlights:

•planetary physics
•ship classes with meaningful differentiation
•faction reputation with meaningful gameplay impact
•homogenous resource availability
•asteroid landings
•space station and fleet destruction
•large fleets
•traveling freighters
•large scale battles the player can join
•in-atmosphere battles
•NPCs outside trading posts and other docks
•ringed planets
•sand planets
•flying between stars (as opposed to warping via the Galactic interface)
•complex creature behaviour including environmental interaction
•rivers
•points of interest such as large structures and crashed freighters
•hacking locked doors
•radio chatter
•interaction with other players

So the question is , why doesnt NMS have the list of features that you guys say SM lied about ? If he lied then why are the features not on the NMS home page?

You: "Finally we meet"
GF you meet online: "Nice to meet you, my real name is Mario"
You: "Oh you're a guy then? fine"

.... i really dont understand people like you. Doesnt matter what he said before, because isnt on the home page? Basically people can lie to you right before they need to face the truth then say the opposite and its fine for you? ...

[triple88a]

No, i hope Sean chokes on the lobster he buys with my 60 bucks.

[krehator]

Wild původně napsal:

Grailer původně napsal:

the list of “missing” features is pretty interesting reading. Here are the highlights:

•planetary physics
•ship classes with meaningful differentiation
•faction reputation with meaningful gameplay impact
•homogenous resource availability
•asteroid landings
•space station and fleet destruction
•large fleets
•traveling freighters
•large scale battles the player can join
•in-atmosphere battles
•NPCs outside trading posts and other docks
•ringed planets
•sand planets
•flying between stars (as opposed to warping via the Galactic interface)
•complex creature behaviour including environmental interaction
•rivers
•points of interest such as large structures and crashed freighters
•hacking locked doors
•radio chatter
•interaction with other players

So the question is , why doesnt NMS have the list of features that you guys say SM lied about ? If he lied then why are the features not on the NMS home page?

You: "Finally we meet"
GF you meet online: "Nice to meet you, my real name is Mario"
You: "Oh you're a guy then? fine"

.... i really dont understand people like you. Doesnt matter what he said before, because isnt on the home page? Basically people can lie to you right before they need to face the truth then say the opposite and its fine for you? ...

The home page also didn't listed a lot of things, does that mean all the advertising and videos that implied otherwise don't matter?

The store page also never "pinky promised" to support the game the day after it was sold......but you would expect it, wouldn't you?

The store page never "pink promised" that the game would work properly, but you would expect it, wouldn't you?

What you are describing is a used car salesman mentality in business where dishonesty is promoted and rewarded. You support sleazy business practices?

If I used these same tactics to drag money out of a business, that business would be knocking down my door for satisfaction. You know, I know it, everyone knows it. I'd have a table full of threatening legal documents.

[krehator]

ObviouslyLAME původně napsal:

People are currently getting hyped about Friday the 13th and beleiving the scripted, pre-alpha footage is real gameplay. Ignorance is bliss, then they cry when reality sets in. People never learn critical thinking and logic. History repeats itself long-term and short-term.

Misleading marketing is bad, of course. The best solution is to stop falling for it/paying for it.

(I hope Friday 13th is good, but I can't make a judgement until I see the actual game in action.)

This dishonesty in the Game Industry motivates me to go back to Piracy.

[heuldoch]

sheep from hell původně napsal:

saz původně napsal:

All this talk about "free" "DLC"...

People really believe the guy who lied about just about everything in the game?

there will be one or two tiny content updates (maybe more different number riddles) before the paid one, so they can argue he said the truth :D

there will be NO paid DLC...fact

who would buy that crap?...fact

game and Hello Games is DEAD...fact

[Clodyx]

krehator původně napsal:

This dishonesty in the Game Industry motivates me to go back to Piracy.

INTERESTING IDEA!!!!

[Phenom]

Clearly it doesn't look like many actually do believe Sean or HG

[Eldoro]

Almost everything that is Hello games

[Blackout]

saz původně napsal:

All this talk about "free" "DLC"...

People really believe the guy who lied about just about everything in the game?

I believed George Bush when he talked about attacking Afgahnistan with Battleships etc., but not Sean Murray for the rest of my live.

[kevinschmidtke]

The reason is fairly easy, because he didn't lie.
People apparently simply don't look at current information and tend to look up old material. He doesn't come out and say "Hey we cut this and that." But if you watch the recent trailers and interviews you get an accurate represantation of the game.

You can look up any game, and strangely it seems that trailers tend to get more accurate the closer the release date gets. It's almost as if things change during development.
NMS may have had more changes and more press interaction than pretty much any other game I can think of, especially so early during development. But you will be hard to pressed to find any developer talbing about things they didn't include in a game during an interview. They always talk about what's there and not what isn't.
If a feature isn't mentioned anymore (like the famous asteroid landing, that was talked about once, where he literally said "Right now you can") you should assume that it probably isn't in the game. Otherwise you can bet that the guy trying to sell you his stuff would talk about it.

[Maverick]

I don't believe there are any missing features. I also don't think anyone lied. The very idea of that will make some people grind their teeth, but oh well.