Mod reveals the E3 presentation was "staged"

[Burusagi]

The assets for the spectacle are actually there in the game files. These things were handcrafted, not generated by the game.

http://nomansskymods.com/mods/return-of-the-rainforest/

EDIT:

To elaborate my "point" about this thread: the most common defense you hear when you bring this trailer up is that "Oh, it is out there. But there are a gazillion planets in-game, so you simply haven't found it yet!" which is clearly incorrect with this revelation; the planet was created by hand (not algorithm) for demonstration purposes.

[lionatwork]

Do they even save our discoveries? This is alarming, it seems they don't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsEgtaDZwMg

[Umbra]

Originally posted by Red Eagle LXIX:

Originally posted by Goatsnatcher:

Oh your on about that trailer. I thought we were talking about the 2015? E3 where he was actually playing the game on stage. Never mind then.

Any trailer that features that bronto, that world, was faked. That is the whole point.
They used that world multiple times. The whole thing was fake. That world never existed. The gameplay featuring that world never existed.

Yeah that was like 2013-2014 e3 i think? Yes that isn't an accurate representation of the game and probably should have the "not actual gameplay" tag on the video, it was more a "what they had planned" sort of thing. There's been tons more accurate video's sinse that video was released.

[Ottofyre]

Oh, no, the completely staged video that everyone knew was staged was staged! And in more news - Water is wet!!!

Even if that planet had existed in the game at the time of the video, it wouldn't now since they completely re-rendered the universe using new rules since then. If you feel mislead, fine, that's okay, it can be argued that it's reasonable to have felt mislead - but complaining that something was staged that wouldn't be in the game now even if it hadn't been staged is kinda reaching for reasons to be upset.

In a game where everything is procedurally generated and you were never guaranteed to see any particular landscape, creature or event - it's also kind of silly to complain that you can't see a specific landscape, creature or event. The trailer was meant to show the type of experience you could expect from the game, and it does that fairly well for anyone not looking for a specific experience and who realised it was summing up hours upon hours of experiences in a 3 minute video.

It'd be funny if games had to start using actual in-development footage for their promotions showing what it was like at that stage instead of what they plan for it to be like. That'd be some ridiculously broken junk we'd be watching. On the other hand, it would ensure no game ever fell victim to hype again.

[Selfish Lee Everett]

ITT - yeah i got lied to SO WHAT!! everybody does it. haha you are dumb for falling for the hype. oh well i still love the game <3

[EyeDye]

Originally posted by Hiirazz:

Oh, no, the completely staged video that everyone knew was staged was staged! And in more news - Water is wet!!!

Even if that planet had existed in the game at the time of the video, it wouldn't now since they completely re-rendered the universe using new rules since then. If you feel mislead, fine, that's okay, it can be argued that it's reasonable to have felt mislead - but complaining that something was staged that wouldn't be in the game now even if it hadn't been staged is kinda reaching for reasons to be upset.

In a game where everything is procedurally generated and you were never guaranteed to see any particular landscape, creature or event - it's also kind of silly to complain that you can't see a specific landscape, creature or event. The trailer was meant to show the type of experience you could expect from the game, and it does that fairly well for anyone not looking for a specific experience and who realised it was summing up hours upon hours of experiences in a 3 minute video.

It'd be funny if games had to start using actual in-development footage for their promotions showing what it was like at that stage instead of what they plan for it to be like. That'd be some ridiculously broken junk we'd be watching. On the other hand, it would ensure no game ever fell victim to hype again.

Exellent post, my compliments!

[WelvynZPorter]

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[IndieBob]

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[Captain Jack]

So what? This isn't new news. They were demo-ing the game. You can't take a game that procedurally generates content and play it live to demonstrate some of it's coolest features because nobody, not even the developers can predict what the player is going to see from planet to planet. Call it what you will, but modifying the game slightly so that cool stuff is guaranteed to happen during the time limited demo isn't a bad thing as long as that cool stuff does exist in the game. The alternative is a demo that's hundreds of hours long.

[Lapin Fou]

Originally posted by Hiirazz:

Oh, no, the completely staged video that everyone knew was staged was staged! And in more news - Water is wet!!!

Even if that planet had existed in the game at the time of the video, it wouldn't now since they completely re-rendered the universe using new rules since then. If you feel mislead, fine, that's okay, it can be argued that it's reasonable to have felt mislead - but complaining that something was staged that wouldn't be in the game now even if it hadn't been staged is kinda reaching for reasons to be upset.

In a game where everything is procedurally generated and you were never guaranteed to see any particular landscape, creature or event - it's also kind of silly to complain that you can't see a specific landscape, creature or event. The trailer was meant to show the type of experience you could expect from the game, and it does that fairly well for anyone not looking for a specific experience and who realised it was summing up hours upon hours of experiences in a 3 minute video.

It'd be funny if games had to start using actual in-development footage for their promotions showing what it was like at that stage instead of what they plan for it to be like. That'd be some ridiculously broken junk we'd be watching. On the other hand, it would ensure no game ever fell victim to hype again.

oh yeah untextured surfaces video not animated models, no light no shadow, just voices over low res models I'd love to see it would gice so much idea about the final game.

You know what I love the most with these "the E3 video was stage" threads? the fact that non of them ever though every studios out there do that none. how many time a year have we an article comparing the final game with the E3 video? nearly one for each games that had a video at E3.

And if we keep looking at NMS maybe they actually generated the planet with their procedural engine but they had to genererate hundred if not thousand of thing to come to a good looking result and saved what they generated and made a scene with this.

Because that's the reality of E3 selected and modified ingame content. FFS I just read a job offer at one of the biggest game studios for being a scene artist to do video games trailers and screenshot for adds needing strong capacity with photoshop and after effect to embelish ingame content.

[Cablenexus]

Maybe Steam needs to offer an extra option when buying the game.

Option 1. Buy the game like shown in E3 trailer, Alpha footage and of concept art of a game. (mostly just artwork, no AI, no gameplay at all).

Option 2. Buy the complete game as developed after years which you actually can play.

I know what to choose

[Grimmrog_SIG]

Originally posted by Lob:

Originally posted by Aisar:

Welcome to E3 lol :D Like finding out there's no santa claus huh?

"there's no santa claus"

WHAAAAAAT?

yes his true name is Santa Joe

[Grimmrog_SIG]

Originally posted by Captain Jack:

So what? This isn't new news. They were demo-ing the game. You can't take a game that procedurally generates content and play it live to demonstrate some of it's coolest features because nobody, not even the developers can predict what the player is going to see from planet to planet. Call it what you will, but modifying the game slightly so that cool stuff is guaranteed to happen during the time limited demo isn't a bad thing as long as that cool stuff does exist in the game. The alternative is a demo that's hundreds of hours long.

you can. Except those cool features don't exist, and therefore there wouldn't be anythign to show in the actual game.

But this video being staged was extremely clear, the cameramovement, the way how what happened where, exactly with the "character" looking in these very moments at these happenings made it extremely obvious.

Buw whats sad is that they haven't used a truly generatd planet and played on it, instead they indeed just made up all, which mostlikly means the parts of the maps we see were handmade and not generated.

[Ruckpie]

Originally posted by Lob:

Originally posted by Aisar:

Welcome to E3 lol :D Like finding out there's no santa claus huh?

"there's no santa claus"

WHAAAAAAT?

*Covers ears*

NANANA

[tmaddox]

It never once occurred to me that the E3 trailer wasn't staged or pre-rendered.

I am more amazed that some people didn't think so.

[Burusagi]

Originally posted by The Crow:

Originally posted by Hiirazz:

Oh, no, the completely staged video that everyone knew was staged was staged! And in more news - Water is wet!!!

Even if that planet had existed in the game at the time of the video, it wouldn't now since they completely re-rendered the universe using new rules since then. If you feel mislead, fine, that's okay, it can be argued that it's reasonable to have felt mislead - but complaining that something was staged that wouldn't be in the game now even if it hadn't been staged is kinda reaching for reasons to be upset.

In a game where everything is procedurally generated and you were never guaranteed to see any particular landscape, creature or event - it's also kind of silly to complain that you can't see a specific landscape, creature or event. The trailer was meant to show the type of experience you could expect from the game, and it does that fairly well for anyone not looking for a specific experience and who realised it was summing up hours upon hours of experiences in a 3 minute video.

It'd be funny if games had to start using actual in-development footage for their promotions showing what it was like at that stage instead of what they plan for it to be like. That'd be some ridiculously broken junk we'd be watching. On the other hand, it would ensure no game ever fell victim to hype again.

oh yeah untextured surfaces video not animated models, no light no shadow, just voices over low res models I'd love to see it would gice so much idea about the final game.

You know what I love the most with these "the E3 video was stage" threads? the fact that non of them ever though every studios out there do that none. how many time a year have we an article comparing the final game with the E3 video? nearly one for each games that had a video at E3.

And if we keep looking at NMS maybe they actually generated the planet with their procedural engine but they had to genererate hundred if not thousand of thing to come to a good looking result and saved what they generated and made a scene with this.

Because that's the reality of E3 selected and modified ingame content. FFS I just read a job offer at one of the biggest game studios for being a scene artist to do video games trailers and screenshot for adds needing strong capacity with photoshop and after effect to embelish ingame content.

Look, OBVIOUSLY not everyone know it was staged. The most common defense you hear about the game is "There's a gazillion planets, you've just not found it yet! It is out there!".

No, it is not. It never was, never will be. That is why I made this thread - to debunk that claim. And then you have the obvious problem with features (such as animals impacting the landscape) being staged, yet it is still used to sell the game on the Steam store page.