Nvidia cards crashing with Optimal power?

[Kurai Shidosha]

Interesting thing I just discovered tonight. When playing NMS on my 4090, I noticed the GPU wasn't using lower clocks even though the game was super easy to render. Even at the main menu it was boosting to max. I went into the game's driver profile and sure enough it looks like Nvidia set the game to Prefer Maximum Performance so hence why the card didn't sleep.

Well I tried setting it to Optimal power and wow thing crashed right away in the loading screens. Now I'm curious if this driver setting is a bandaid solution to cover up for buggy graphics cards with poorly binned chips that crash when switching frequencies a lot. I've also been experiencing crashes when watching Youtube and Twitch in Chrome and that has me thinking it's a defective GPU.

Is there anyone out there who can set this profile to Optimal and not experience any crashes? If so, I'm probably going to return this GPU because that's not acceptable to me. Thanks.

[Unlucky]

It's a brand new GPU so those always have release-month driver issues...
That said, I will never accept any sort of crashing at all if I'd paid $1500+ for a GPU. lol... I'd return it in a heartbeat.

[tkwoods]

So please tell me you got it as part of a complete system build and not just stuffed into your current setup?

My understanding is that the card can draw 600 watts at optimum power settings. It could be you power supply.

[Maviba]

that's not an NVIDIA issue. its more likely an 40x0 issue.

that card alone draws more power than my entire PC does.
so it seems that "power optimization" isn't optimzed yet, resulting in your card running unstable.

So don't use it, till NVIDIAfixed that.
that'sthe price you pay for early adopting.

[Kurai Shidosha]

Every Nvidia card is using this GPU profile that sets the card to max boost. That's done by Nvidia specifically for this game. That tells me something is up with this game when using power optimizing settings. I'm just curious if anyone else can replicate the crashes by turning this setting off in the driver or if it's just me. Has nothing to do with power draw, the rest of my setup etc. It's this one setting.

[vaanomega]

I've heard that the RTX 4090 had a lot of issues with one of the latest driver update

I hope it's just that

[Taz D Evil]

My 4090 runs NMS in VR at Ultimate settings smoooooooooth. No major power draws, utilization of the gpu is only 60% and never gets over 60 celcius. SteamVR sucks though.

[wkitty42]

be sure you are using a proper power cable connected to the card, as well... you certainly don't want to be melting that connector and causing higher amperage on the wires which can also cause the card to crash... check out JayZ2Cents and other YT streamers' discussions about this power cable problem before you burn up your new GPU...

[Kurai Shidosha]

Originally posted by Taz D Evil:

My 4090 runs NMS in VR at Ultimate settings smoooooooooth. No major power draws, utilization of the gpu is only 60% and never gets over 60 celcius. SteamVR sucks though.

Can you try something for me? Can you go into the Nvidia control panel, click Manage 3D settings on the left, then click Program Settings, either Add or find No Man's Sky in the list of programs to customize. Now scroll down in the settings and find Power management mode with the bolded Prefer maximum performance selected. Change that to Normal and hit apply then try playing NMS and see if you get any driver blackouts.

It'd mean the world to me if you could test and confirm this for me. Nvidia specifically chose to make this one game use Prefer maximum performance for a reason so I suspect it's not necessarily a problem with *my* card but rather their drivers/GPUs in general, but I want to make sure someone else has the same problem as me before I decide to RMA my 4090 or not.

Thanks

[PeaceMaker]

4090 eh? How many body parts did y'all have to sell for that? Hope it actually runs VR games better than the 3090 does.

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by 13VoRoN37 TV:

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

4090 eh? How many body parts did y'all have to sell for that? Hope it actually runs VR games better than the 3090 does.

Its cost only 2k in Russia. I make this money per week. What are u talking about?
But even me dont spend it for stuff like this.=)

Are you talking about Russian Ruble ? Because 2000 Russian Ruble is only 32,82€ while the card is around 2000€ in France
It would be really weird if it was the case

[Musashi]

Changing it from”Prefer maximum power “ to Normal did not create a crash
on my 3070Ti

[RiChuF]

Originally posted by Kurai Shidosha:

Interesting thing I just discovered tonight. When playing NMS on my 4090, I noticed the GPU wasn't using lower clocks even though the game was super easy to render. Even at the main menu it was boosting to max. I went into the game's driver profile and sure enough it looks like Nvidia set the game to Prefer Maximum Performance so hence why the card didn't sleep.

Well I tried setting it to Optimal power and wow thing crashed right away in the loading screens. Now I'm curious if this driver setting is a bandaid solution to cover up for buggy graphics cards with poorly binned chips that crash when switching frequencies a lot. I've also been experiencing crashes when watching Youtube and Twitch in Chrome and that has me thinking it's a defective GPU.

Is there anyone out there who can set this profile to Optimal and not experience any crashes? If so, I'm probably going to return this GPU because that's not acceptable to me. Thanks.

suppose thats one way of bragging that you have a 4090

[Kurai Shidosha]

Originally posted by Musashi:

Changing it from”Prefer maximum power “ to Normal did not create a crash
on my 3070Ti

Thank you for testing. Really hope my card isn't defective :(

[kartelusm]

I actually experienced an issue where, if I kept the drivers on prefer maximum performance for this game, it would not revert to normal on exit, resulting in a max core and mem clock while in desktop. The only solution after that was a reset.

[NZ.Zero]

Optimal power for a 4090? you mean an average sized nuclear power station?

Seriously tho, they have several power issues in general, like melting conenctors etc, I'd read up on 4090 general issues if i were you.