settlement?

[GoreTiger]

A year ago I started a settlement and then never touched it (and the game) again for a few months. I came back today, And that settlement is now 15mil in debt.

I've built 2 landing pads and that's mostly it. Nothing else is being offered to me and there's no visitors or anything on the terminal.

What am I supposed to do from here? Is there any way to abandon this village or am I missing something?

[frazzled]

Heheh! While I wish you could continue this accidental experiment, I can see how you wouldn't want to.

I think you can go a few systems away and start using settlement maps (bought from the cartographer on Space Stations.) Find a new settlement and claim it, and I think it drops your old one, which then reverts to its original state.

[Jaggid Edje]

The settlements use real time passed for calculating earnings and debt, so if your settlement was losing money rather than making it and then you did not play for a long time....yep, you're going to have massive debt when you return.

But, it's easy to abandon a settlement. All you have to do is claim a new one. You can only have one settlement, so when you claim a new one the old one is abandoned. As @Frazzled said, all you have to do is get a few settlement charts from a cartographer on any space station, and then use them in the system in which you want to find a new settlement.

You do not actually have to go "a few systems away" like he said, even. Though, I recommend you find a high economy system to use the charts in. You also will want to buy several charts, not just one, as on rare occasions they fail to find a settlement. Plus, that way you can take the time to find a settlement you really want, instead of just claiming the first one a chart points you to.

[Zep Tepi]

Put down a save beacon before you use a chart. Sometimes they fail completely. Keep reloading until it appears on the planet you want.

[Krash Megiddo]

Originally posted by Zep Tepi:

Put down a save beacon before you use a chart. Sometimes they fail completely. Keep reloading until it appears on the planet you want.

This is the way^ Something about the reload process significantly increases your chances of finding a settlement.

[wkitty42]

it should also be noted that you, specifically, are not losing anything when your settlement is in debt... nothing of your's is tied to the settlement... you cannot pay off its debt with funds from your bank... the settlement debt only restricts how long it will be before you starting getting the free meager income from the settlement...

personally, as an experiment, i'd keep that settlement and see how long it takes to clear out that debt... if you start going to the settlement each day to check on it, you should start getting tasks for building more buildings again...

on building settlements, i always go for as many landing pads as i can... i don't know why... i guess my thoughts were more traders landing would bring more commerce trading for the settlement and thus more income... that doesn't seem to be a thing, though... i have several settlements fully built out... one of them has two trade centers... all have at least four landing pads... once all the buildings were built, it didn't take long for the settlements to turn around and reduce the debt completely...

[Krash Megiddo]

Originally posted by wkitty42:

on building settlements, i always go for as many landing pads as i can... i don't know why... i guess my thoughts were more traders landing would bring more commerce trading for the settlement and thus more income... that doesn't seem to be a thing, though... i have several settlements fully built out... one of them has two trade centers... all have at least four landing pads... once all the buildings were built, it didn't take long for the settlements to turn around and reduce the debt completely...

I have some insight on this. The settlement's buildings are predetermined. Each settlement has a different mix of buildings within limits. The number of landing pads, markets, water towers, etc are set in stone per settlement. The choices we get are not what to build on a specific spot. The choice is what to build first.

[wkitty42]

Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:

Originally posted by wkitty42:

on building settlements, i always go for as many landing pads as i can... i don't know why... i guess my thoughts were more traders landing would bring more commerce trading for the settlement and thus more income... that doesn't seem to be a thing, though... i have several settlements fully built out... one of them has two trade centers... all have at least four landing pads... once all the buildings were built, it didn't take long for the settlements to turn around and reduce the debt completely...

I have some insight on this. The settlement's buildings are predetermined. Each settlement has a different mix of buildings within limits. The number of landing pads, markets, water towers, etc are set in stone per settlement. The choices we get are not what to build on a specific spot. The choice is what to build first.

that's... interesting... i've read others saying pretty much the same thing but i've not done enough settlements to really see it, i guess... i'll certainly keep it in mind...

here's a question or three:
- does the system economy affect the ""type"" of settlement?
- does the planet biome affect the ""type"" of settlement?
- does either of these affect the buildings in the settlement?

"type" is not the proper word but i can't think of the one i'm trying to think of :/



aside: i guess i could find out more from some data mining but i'll ask here instead...

[Krash Megiddo]

Originally posted by wkitty42:

here's a question or three:
- does the system economy affect the ""type"" of settlement?
- does the planet biome affect the ""type"" of settlement?
- does either of these affect the buildings in the settlement?

I've seen this mix in my own settlements
5 markets, 3 landing pads, 1 tower.
5 landing pads, 3 markets, 1 tower
4 landing pads, 4 markets, 1 tower
3 landing pads, 5 markets, 1 tower
2 landing pads, 1 market, 4 towers
and other mixes^

1-5 is the range I've observed. Most settlements get a saloon and/or a residence but not always. Saloon is more common than the residence.

I haven't noticed any building mix that's tied to system or biome stats. That's like noticing differences in what the galactic terminal sells based on location. There might be a connection there under the hood.

[Foxglovez]

I got the 2 landing pads, 1 market and 4 towers on my main save. What a disappointment. But too cool a planet to move. I wonder if I could find another settlement on that same planet and if the results would be different. Anyone tried that?

[Krash Megiddo]

Originally posted by Foxglovez:

I got the 2 landing pads, 1 market and 4 towers on my main save. What a disappointment. But too cool a planet to move. I wonder if I could find another settlement on that same planet and if the results would be different. Anyone tried that?

Yes, I've been able to find multiple settlements per planet. Look at planets along the expedition route and you'll see half a dozen settlements on some planets.