Sean and Hello Games are now controlling the show.

[Patch]

Even with the disaster of the NMS launch, and the hatred for the game since then, I believe that with the wall of silence they have put up, they now control the situation. The wall of silence has created a different sort of hype, where people are desperately hoping for some official news or announcement on game updates. I believe that soon, you will see Sean or at least someone from HG, come out and make an official announcement on the future of the game. If the news is good, and involves some juicy updates, you watch the hype machine go into overdrive again. Sales will probably even skyrocket again. That is my theory on why Sean Murray and HG hold all the aces with this game.

[Cpt. Wardova TCNMS Intrepid]

I am constantly amazed, at how many self proclaimed experts we have...with opposing thoughts on what absolutely is and what isn't, when absolutely none of us know what is going on, or what the future actually holds. I have ideas, but I am holding out for the actual source to say what is and what will be. Time and actions are the only truths. I think everyone just needs to relax, as it's all we can do until HG breaks silence or gives us patches. So yes the OP is correct in that Hello Games and Sean Murray do hold all the aces. We can't bluff and win.

[☥ Docdra ☥]

...sure, sure, he'll be walking on water too, but the only things he'll be holding are a basket of bread and a creel of fish... You'll need a messianic figure to "skyrocket" the sales again.

[Patch]

Originally posted by GrandPa Gaming NL:

Keep on dreaming. Keep the hype alive. Keep on fooling yourself. This is the best they could do after 4 years, do you really believe they kept something back? Seriously?

No i believe that Sony forced them to release the unfinished game when they did. I also believe that if it had been pc only, the release would have been set later. Think about it, you are a struggling indie games programmer, you have a game with huge potential, a multibillion dollar conglomerate takes notice, decides they want a piece of the potential pie, then offers a huge retainer cheque so that you can complete the game (huge to you, pocket money to them) . You are then under their control, they own you. along with the cheque comes a contract and in that contract is a Non Disclosure Agreement. It prohibits any direct discussion in public about the game for x amount of time after release unless Sony approves or authorises it. You cant afford not to take the cheque so you sign the contract. Now Sony owns you, if they say game will be released at this time, then you release it, ready or not. Thats what I think happened and why I think HG will open up once NDA period is over.

[jpcerutti]

Originally posted by Wardova:

I am constantly amazed, at how many self proclaimed experts we have...with opposing thoughts on what absolutely is and what isn't, when absolutely none of us know what is going on, or what the future actually holds. I have ideas, but I am holding out for the actual source to say what is and what will be. Time and actions are the only truths. I think everyone just needs to relax, as it's all we can do until HG breaks silence or gives us patches. So yes the OP is correct in that Hello Games and Sean Murray do hold all the aces. We can't bluff and win.

Or you could say everybody is right until proven wrong. The cat box works both ways.

I think he's holding a pair of treys BTW. We'll see what happens at the flop.

[Patch]

Originally posted by Docdra:

...sure, sure, he'll be walking on water too, but the only things he'll be holding are a basket of bread and a creel of fish... You'll need a messianic figure to "skyrocket" the sales again.

Originally posted by Wardova:

I am constantly amazed, at how many self proclaimed experts we have...with opposing thoughts on what absolutely is and what isn't, when absolutely none of us know what is going on, or what the future actually holds. I have ideas, but I am holding out for the actual source to say what is and what will be. Time and actions are the only truths. I think everyone just needs to relax, as it's all we can do until HG breaks silence or gives us patches. So yes the OP is correct in that Hello Games and Sean Murray do hold all the aces. We can't bluff and win.

Mate , thats why this is called a forum. its a gathering of ideas. you can go about your life keeping silent about every thought you have, or you can put your ideas out there and see what answers come up. I personally have never proclaimed myself an "expert", in fact my OP clearly states it is my theory.

[sHuRuLuNi]

I am preloading BF1 right now ...

[⚡Snake⚡Plissken⚡]

Originally posted by Wardova:

I am constantly amazed, at how many self proclaimed experts we have...with opposing thoughts on what absolutely is and what isn't, when absolutely none of us know what is going on, or what the future actually holds. I have ideas, but I am holding out for the actual source to say what is and what will be. Time and actions are the only truths. I think everyone just needs to relax, as it's all we can do until HG breaks silence or gives us patches. So yes the OP is correct in that Hello Games and Sean Murray do hold all the aces. We can't bluff and win.

I agree, very thought provoking and honest, at least you base your findings on facts

[Shadowfox]

Originally posted by Patch:

Even with the disaster of the NMS launch, and the hatred for the game since then, I believe that with the wall of silence they have put up, they now control the situation. The wall of silence has created a different sort of hype, where people are desperately hoping for some official news or announcement on game updates. I believe that soon, you will see Sean or at least someone from HG, come out and make an official announcement on the future of the game. If the news is good, and involves some juicy updates, you watch the hype machine go into overdrive again. Sales will probably even skyrocket again. That is my theory on why Sean Murray and HG hold all the aces with this game.

Doubtful, they hold their future careers and reputations on the line.
Who would hire charlatans. Their names attached to anything would bring instant PR disaster.
Well at least for now, unless NMS goes thru a complete overhaul

[asd]

I really REALLY hope they vvill never fix the game. VVhat vvill I joke about vvith my friends if they do :(

[Cpt. Wardova TCNMS Intrepid]

Originally posted by Patch:

Originally posted by Docdra:

...sure, sure, he'll be walking on water too, but the only things he'll be holding are a basket of bread and a creel of fish... You'll need a messianic figure to "skyrocket" the sales again.

Originally posted by Wardova:

I am constantly amazed, at how many self proclaimed experts we have...with opposing thoughts on what absolutely is and what isn't, when absolutely none of us know what is going on, or what the future actually holds. I have ideas, but I am holding out for the actual source to say what is and what will be. Time and actions are the only truths. I think everyone just needs to relax, as it's all we can do until HG breaks silence or gives us patches. So yes the OP is correct in that Hello Games and Sean Murray do hold all the aces. We can't bluff and win.

Mate , thats why this is called a forum. its a gathering of ideas. you can go about your life keeping silent about every thought you have, or you can put your ideas out there and see what answers come up. I personally have never proclaimed myself an "expert", in fact my OP clearly states it is my theory.

Aw, I wasn't referring to specific people Patch. No need to be defensive, and yes I do understand how forums work. I too have opinions, I just think being calm and nice to others is just a good practice. Here about this game, it can't really hurt to do that. I only refer to the "experts," as those using terms of certaintly, when there is no way for us out here to know things for certain. Alot of what I say is just opinion too, it's all fine. My only beefs are with those that claim things are fact, when they don't have the grounds for facts yet, and those whose only basis seem to be that of insulting and belittling those with opposing ideas.

I am not even bothered by the implausable theories, they usually give me a laugh. It only bugs me when some say the same thing for months, in angry terms, and doesn't bring anything concrete to back up their theories that they use to bash everyone with. I just like facts, and civil discussion.

[EyeDye]

Originally posted by Wardova:

Aw, I wasn't referring to specific people Patch. No need to be defensive, and yes I do understand how forums work. I too have opinions, I just think being calm and nice to others is just a good practice. Here about this game, it can't really hurt to do that. I only refer to the "experts," as those using terms of certaintly, when there is no way for us out here to know things for certain. Alot of what I say is just opinion too, it's all fine. My only beefs are with those that claim things are fact, when they don't have the grounds for facts yet, and those whose only basis seem to be that of insulting and belittling those with opposing ideas.

I am not even bothered by the implausable theories, they usually give me a laugh. It only bugs me when some say the same thing for months, in angry terms, and doesn't bring anything concrete to back up their theories that they use to bash everyone with. I just like facts, and civil discussion.

Well said.

[Cpt. Wardova TCNMS Intrepid]

Thanks, I try to supply my opinions, and try really hard not to debase the people that give them. I am sorry if anyone thinks I was calling anyone something bad. I seperate opinions from the people that give them, one idea does not make up everything about a person. It would be narrow minded and naive to go after someone just over their opinions on a video game.

My experts comment, was taken from those that actually called themselves that or claimed to have insider knowledge that we didn't. It wasn't really a mockery of them.

[sheep from hell]

Originally posted by Patch:

Originally posted by GrandPa Gaming NL:

Keep on dreaming. Keep the hype alive. Keep on fooling yourself. This is the best they could do after 4 years, do you really believe they kept something back? Seriously?

No i believe that Sony forced them to release the unfinished game when they did. I also believe that if it had been pc only, the release would have been set later. Think about it, you are a struggling indie games programmer, you have a game with huge potential, a multibillion dollar conglomerate takes notice, decides they want a piece of the potential pie, then offers a huge retainer cheque so that you can complete the game (huge to you, pocket money to them) . You are then under their control, they own you. along with the cheque comes a contract and in that contract is a Non Disclosure Agreement. It prohibits any direct discussion in public about the game for x amount of time after release unless Sony approves or authorises it. You cant afford not to take the cheque so you sign the contract. Now Sony owns you, if they say game will be released at this time, then you release it, ready or not. Thats what I think happened and why I think HG will open up once NDA period is over.

its much simpler. development cost money, when the money ends you have to release, when the development costs become so high its questionable you get your money back you have to release, with every buck you invest in development you lower your potential profit. publishers are just the messengers for such bad news, not the source (mostly). they new thx to the hype train they would make a ton of money, so no reason to make a finished and polished game or take any risks

[Konachibi]

I imagine the silence HG has given us isn't an intentional silence whilst waiting for the fallout to clear, personally I think it's more just that they don't know what to say. It's kind of hard to explain why, after selling a car to somebody, they suddenly discover it has 2 missing wheels and the passenger seats removed.
And the case is, HG is still not in control. The moment they open their mouth to say anything about NMS they'll have an army of still very angry people immediately beat them down, and it's going to be that way for years to come. If they try to make an announcement about anything NMS related, it'll be plastered over dozens of gaming website where the writer will butcher them with the usual linguistic speel and the comments section will need fire extinguishers to douse the flames. Simply, there isn't any coming back from this, there never will be. Like Aliens: Colonial Marines did to Gearbox, No Man's Sky has permanently tainted Hello Games as an untrustworthy and unlikable company that no amount of hard work or dedication could ever cleanse.
Don't get me wrong, I like NMS as a relaxing sci-fi exploration game, but I know enough to know that there isn't any fixing what they've done.

[jpcerutti]

Originally posted by sheep from hell:

Originally posted by Patch:

No i believe that Sony forced them to release the unfinished game when they did. I also believe that if it had been pc only, the release would have been set later. Think about it, you are a struggling indie games programmer, you have a game with huge potential, a multibillion dollar conglomerate takes notice, decides they want a piece of the potential pie, then offers a huge retainer cheque so that you can complete the game (huge to you, pocket money to them) . You are then under their control, they own you. along with the cheque comes a contract and in that contract is a Non Disclosure Agreement. It prohibits any direct discussion in public about the game for x amount of time after release unless Sony approves or authorises it. You cant afford not to take the cheque so you sign the contract. Now Sony owns you, if they say game will be released at this time, then you release it, ready or not. Thats what I think happened and why I think HG will open up once NDA period is over.

its much simpler. development cost money, when the money ends you have to release, when the development costs become so high its questionable you get your money back you have to release, with every buck you invest in development you lower your potential profit. publishers are just the messengers for such bad news, not the source (mostly). they new thx to the hype train they would make a ton of money, so no reason to make a finished and polished game or take any risks

Or, after death threats for just a two month delay, and some serious nudging from SONY, and pressure from everyone, they released what they had since it was playable at that point and mostly fit what they wanted it to be. Every game goes down to the final release date with an intenal continuing argument about if it is ready "enough" yet to release.

Nobody even expects a game to be 100% at release anymore. Day one patching, followed by bugfixing, followed by at least one update; are all things games just budget for.