The Tritium problem

[Reformatio]

This game is good but I cannot really enjoy it as much as I want.
My time is limited and what I do first whenever I log in is to send my freighters on missions.
The rewards are just too good but crafting fuel is ruining the game for me.
I have to spend a lot of time in stations to wait for vendors who are selling Tritium and Di-Hydrogen Jelly.
I dislike that there is no way to automate the production or buy any product from the market.

Is it just me or are other people struggling with this as well?
What solution is there?
Can I get support freighters to a level where my fleet does not consume fuel anymore?

[MarStrMind]

You are aware that Tritium is heavily abundant in asteroids, and that the Jelly can be made of out Di-Hydrogen which you can find on planets?

[DeadOrAlive]

just take one of your ships and shoot down a lot of astroids in space.

youll get a lot of gold, platin, silver AND Tritium.
in my case i never ever buy tritium in nms...

and you need to spend some time to farm di-hydrogen on a planets-surface but i never spend hours to do that because its fast...

and:
"Can I get support freighters to a level where my fleet does not consume fuel anymore?"

i think it depends on the misson and ofc on the frigate-stats...
i have some S-Class-Support-Frigates. in case i could send them out for 1-star-missions, i dont need any fuel.
if i have to combine other frigates (war, trade, ....) with them i need some fuel or i dont need some...

[knighttemplar1960]

3 star economy space stations sometimes sell tritium or dihydrogen jellies in sufficient amounts (on rare occasions they sell both). Travel around a bit and when you find such a system use your economy scanner to locate a trading post on a planet and build a very simple base (computer, 2 solar panels, a battery, and a telporter). Name the base computer something like "tritium 1" and then increase the number for each one you find after that. When you start to run low just make a tour of all the bases that sell tritium and dihydrogen jelly and buy up the supplies, teleporting from one to the next. (If your computer isn't an old potato you can visit several stations in just a few minutes) the cash you get for the missions (and selling the junk you don't need) will more than cover the cost of buying the components to make fuel.

[Krash Megiddo]

Originally posted by knighttemplar1960:

3 star economy space stations sometimes sell tritium or dihydrogen jellies in sufficient amounts (on rare occasions they sell both). Travel around a bit and when you find such a system use your economy scanner to locate a trading post on a planet and build a very simple base (computer, 2 solar panels, a battery, and a telporter). Name the base computer something like "tritium 1" and then increase the number for each one you find after that. When you start to run low just make a tour of all the bases that sell tritium and dihydrogen jelly and buy up the supplies, teleporting from one to the next. (If your computer isn't an old potato you can visit several stations in just a few minutes) the cash you get for the missions (and selling the junk you don't need) will more than cover the cost of buying the components to make fuel.

Great advice^ DHJ is much more common than Tritium in my experience. I'm in the habit of doing what KT suggests plus talk to each pilot in the hangar bay of space stations. About 1 out of 3 will sell Tritium.

Originally posted by Reformatio:

Can I get support freighters to a level where my fleet does not consume fuel anymore?

You can find freighter upgrades on derelict freighter missions that reduce mission time and fuel usage, but it only rarely gets to 0 fuel.

[gussmed]

You can buy Tritium. Some space stations have it, but in my experience, pretty much every pilot that lands at a trading post will sell you tritium.

Tritium is really quite plentiful in asteroids. You typically get about 30-40 tritium per asteroid, plus significant dividends in the tritium crystals you get as a bonus. A few minutes of blowing up asteroids generally gets you enough to fully fuel your frigates for a day.

Di-hydrogen jelly is a bit harder to find for sale, but once you find a station that sells it, make a note of the station in some way, and return there periodically. Generally you can get 40+ jellies at a pop, which will make 2,000 frigate fuel.

A tedious way to get di-hydrogen for free is to craft a Jelly and then use a refiner to make di-hydrogen. This nets you 10 di-hydrogen per jelly, for an initial investment of 40 di-hydrogen. Basically, it’s a 20% increase in however much di-hydrogen you have on hand, in exchange for some clicking. Repeat this cycle a few times and you’ll have enough for your frigates.

There’s also the 30:1 di-hydrogen to jelly refiner recipe, but that’s so slow it’s generally not worth doing. Fortunately the jelly -> di-hydrogen refiner recipe is very fast.

[Darth Cervantes]

You can blast space rocks for 10 minutes and have enough tritium to last for a week. Plus don't forget about the clusters. Have a stack of those and that = lots of tritium
Also, if some of your frigates are oganic that cuts down on fuel, also, if you have a SUPPORT bulking frigate, that usually cuts down the fuel too

I've been sending out fleets of 4-5 frigates (organics mixed with normal) and it the fuel req is usually only 50-100, (sometimes as high as 200 but not often)

Also, A while ago, a poster shared address for a station that sells tritium and di-hydrogen. I can find that address for you if you'd like.

[Lemurian1972]

I've been sending out each mission with 1 Support and 1 Organic most of the time, and that's been reducing my fuel consumption a lot. A single stack of 200ton tanks lasts me a week or more, and that was even before I went hunting for S Class Freighter upgrades this week. In addition you could always craft boosters using other material than Tritium and leverage consumption even more that way.

[Darth Cervantes]

don't forget about the upgrades too that increase fuel efficiency. On youtube there is a system with a derelict that gives a S class upgrade every time

[lordoftheapes79]

I complained about this at first too, but between pirate systems and the buff to what asteroids give you it's pretty easy to get now. Then if you go pirating, you'll get tons of freighter fuel anyway and not even need it. You're going to want plenty of those anomaly detectors nowadays too, so farming asteroids is really the best way to get it imo, so you can double dip.

[SumGumption]

Then there is the fast and easy dupe method....

Put some Tritium or the freighter fuel in one personal refiner, place another empty personal refiner in it. Then pick each one up. Bam! You've doubled your product. This can only be accomplished once on freighter. You need to go on land to do this and it can be done anywhere except for near another players base that won't let you build on.

[Nettle]

1. Visit outlaw system
   
2. Poke holes in freighter(s)
   
3. Run away.

[wkitty42]

i never buy tritium or DHJ... i do the refiner thing at 30:1 to make the jellies... and i decompose DHJ to 50 di-hydrogen in the refiner thus gaining 20 di-hydrogen for each cycle... while the refiner(s) is(are) running, i'm reading the forums i participate in, or reddit, or doing some coding, or anything else to stay busy during the processing...

i generally also keep stocks of all the freighter fuels, too... all three, 200, 100, and 50... but i really hate how the fueling formula takes from the lowest volume stacks instead of being optimized to take from each as needed... eg: if i need 450 fuel, take 2x 200 and 1x50, not 9x 50... HG really should do this in a better more optimized way...

[lordoftheapes79]

Originally posted by wkitty42:

i never buy tritium or DHJ... i do the refiner thing at 30:1 to make the jellies... and i decompose DHJ to 50 di-hydrogen in the refiner thus gaining 20 di-hydrogen for each cycle... while the refiner(s) is(are) running, i'm reading the forums i participate in, or reddit, or doing some coding, or anything else to stay busy during the processing...

i generally also keep stocks of all the freighter fuels, too... all three, 200, 100, and 50... but i really hate how the fueling formula takes from the lowest volume stacks instead of being optimized to take from each as needed... eg: if i need 450 fuel, take 2x 200 and 1x50, not 9x 50... HG really should do this in a better more optimized way...

yeah, while that's definitely more efficient on resources, look at the price of DHJs. it's super cheap. just buying a 100+ stack and refining it down is really your most efficient route. Your time is far more valuable.

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Reformatio:

Is it just me or are other people struggling with this as well?
What solution is there?
Can I get support freighters to a level where my fleet does not consume fuel anymore?

I use one of those classic mods that lets me stack huge amounts of resources... so I only ever need one stack of Tritium, one stack of Warp Cells, etc.
Plus I've got all the best Illegal Modifications on my ship parts, and duplicates in the regular inventory where possible... so my ships don't use that much fuel anyway.
Same situation with my Freighter. As many upgrades as possible.

So it isn't that my ships don't consume fuel... but I just do all my resource management in one go without it taking up tons of separate stacks.... and it lasts for ages.

[HughJardon]

Go to any pirate system and shoot up all the freighters there. You get loads of frigate fuel from them for nothing, so you don't have to craft any. At the same time you get contraband that you can sell in a non-pirate system, for hundreds of millions, frigate modules to upgrade your freighter, uranium for ship launch fuel, nanites and loads of other stuff.