Any Combat Yet? Barebone PvE?

[Josip]

Hi,

a year ago I was looking at maybe buying the game, but I notice there way almost no PvE content - just a few sentinels that would attack you from time to time.

What I am looking for is more robust PvE, like destroying planets, mass destruction of aliens, waging war, etc. Does it have that or are there any plans for that?

[The Seraph of Tomorrow]

I never understood why players are so against expanding the game, because that's what it is... optional side content a player may or may not take part in. It's a choice, and the old guard doesn't even want choice to be a thing.

[Lindy Bomber]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Tech-Priest:

I never understood why players are so against expanding the game, because that's what it is... optional side content a player may or may not take part in. It's a choice, and the old guard doesn't even want choice to be a thing.

Three reasons.

1. It's in direct conflict with the theme of the game.

2. There are other games that already exist that do this far better than NMS could.

3. It would take a year or more of developer time better spent on core game play.

[FoolishOwl]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Yes, I have a Mic.:

Yes. Thank goodness the universe of NMS is still stagnant and lifeless.
Planets with slightly different climates and colour pallets, thats what I want.
Change scares me deeply and makes me clutch to my security blanket.

Genocide and mass destruction are literally the opposite of life. And if that's the only form of change you can imagine, you really should spend some time thinking about why your imagination is so limited.

[LockeCasual]

They added Pirate systems but not much can be made of it. I had some people try to sneak attack me but I just had pvp damage turned off. I'm not sure if it's still like that, and many players don't realize that it's even an option. I've often wondered if enough raiders got together, if we could cause a big disturbance by attacking colony worlds of other players ..but it's just not that kind of game it seems, even with the option open

[Dr.Abscondus]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Josip:

Hi,

a year ago I was looking at maybe buying the game, but I notice there way almost no PvE content - just a few sentinels that would attack you from time to time.

What I am looking for is more robust PvE, like destroying planets, mass destruction of aliens, waging war, etc. Does it have that or are there any plans for that?

Uh, no. The game engine can't support anything other than very crude PvE. It was designed for exploration and that's it.

[LockeCasual]

Imagine if this game had two major factions .... and we actually had wars over established colony planets and organized players to hold positions. It could be incredible ... and the potential is there ....

But there's just no value to holding systems. Nothing to fight over. I've explored a lot and even with the expos there's something missing in this game. Some "other" universe to go to ....maybe into the past, when the Gek ruled as tyrants

[Krash Megiddo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af LockeCasual:

Imagine if this game had two major factions .... and we actually had wars over established colony planets and organized players to hold positions. It could be incredible ... and the potential is there ....

[SaD-82]

Oprindeligt skrevet af LockeCasual:

It could be incredible ...

Imagine having Sonic the Hedgehog appear in a space station and asking you for a race across a star system in which you have to beat those two italian brothers who love to stick their hands in toilets. It could be incredible. If there just would be any other game with this concept out there...

[Lindy Bomber]

Oprindeligt skrevet af LockeCasual:

Imagine if this game had two major factions .... and we actually had wars over established colony planets and organized players to hold positions. It could be incredible ... and the potential is there ....

But there's just no value to holding systems. Nothing to fight over. I've explored a lot and even with the expos there's something missing in this game. Some "other" universe to go to ....maybe into the past, when the Gek ruled as tyrants

It would be incredibly like 4X series.

Now imagine all that developer effect being focused on pushing planet generation to the next level. Planets that I truly life like and different from each other. How incredible would that be?

[LockeCasual]

Well yeah if the planets could be more realistic, that'd be better. I'd like to fly close to suns, also ....but it'd actually destroy your ship if you got close. I'd also like to see dangerous black-holes. and ...GaS GiAnTs <3 <3 <3

aliens animals need a big upgrade bc it's still mostly badger-things and the usual same same

But it's a thread about combat so, you know. Space war would be cool, even just as an alternate mission, to a universe in the past. Wouldn't be hard

[Lindy Bomber]

Oprindeligt skrevet af LockeCasual:

Well yeah if the planets could be more realistic, that'd be better. I'd like to fly close to suns, also ....but it'd actually destroy your ship if you got close. I'd also like to see dangerous black-holes. and ...GaS GiAnTs <3 <3 <3

aliens animals need a big upgrade bc it's still mostly badger-things and the usual same same

But it's a thread about combat so, you know. Space war would be cool, even just as an alternate mission, to a universe in the past. Wouldn't be hard

Remember, there are about 8-10 people working on this so "all of the above" is not an option. The real question is what gives the best reward for given effort. I think that is playing to NMS's strengths and not shoe horning in things that don't fit. Settlements is a good case study for this, they probably spend 30-40% of their annual labor on that, and its terrible. They could beat that dead horse for another two years and it still wouldn't run. They could have spent that effort on two or three new biomes and half a dozen new fauna types.

[LockeCasual]

Yes new biomes should be the priority. The expos would certainly benefit from that. New flora and fauna should always be added, like in every patch. I feel that the pirate systems could have something extra though, something added in the future that allows for a different and more competitive experience.

[Mandrake]

You guys need to turn on PvP, then lookup some of the Arena / CTF players before you keep griping about this crap. It's a sandbox. YOU create the content outside of the main story. Think of Minecraft - the number of high-stakes arena matches is endless in a game that was never originally geared towards it.

in NMS, you can turn on PvP and go ever further by playing in Permadeath mode, actually destroying each other and having to start over building your character again if that's how hardcore you want to get. Kind of like Days of Dragons or something.

Ship PvP Is my favorite. Although I play in Normal mode cuz I don't want to lose my ship. I suck at Weapons PvP, but it's amazing to watch really great players at it that are geared up to the max, because of all the infinitely configurable jetpacks, multitools, shields, etc.

Although I don't know of many people that do it, and haven't gotten to go watch a match, I've seen videos of some of the exocraft competitions and WOW! That's some crazy stuff!

So, I just don't buy the 'no PvP worth a darn' in this game. You have no friends to play with or you're not researching to find people to play with, or you just want some player finder cluttering up the game for no reason. Plenty of games out there with great PvP that have no app built in for it.

Later taters.

[BigGrayGolem]

Oprindeligt skrevet af mandrake:

You guys need to turn on PvP, then lookup some of the Arena / CTF players before you keep griping about this crap. It's a sandbox. YOU create the content outside of the main story.

So, I just don't buy the 'no PvP worth a darn' in this game. You have no friends to play with or you're not researching to find people to play with, or you just want some player finder cluttering up the game for no reason. Plenty of games out there with great PvP that have no app built in for it.

Agree with this. The usual suspects are copy-pasting the same old arguments that they were making years ago. There's no stopping them, at this point it's full-on OCD.

You can't sway the haters on this forum, don't even try.

Meanwhile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okoZ2Iy-SZM

[LockeCasual]

It's really not about hating lol. I just don't have any NMS friends and I have no time really, to play as much as I used to.

STar Trek online has pvp also but hardly anyone ever ques up for it. That's bc there is no worthwhile structure to the PVP.

So in NMS, if there is pvp that's wonderful but it's not very accessible.
However, a new galaxy that was war-torn is doable, with slightly different rules and costs for respawning characters. It would allow devs to create entirely different encounters for it without impacting the original game. Maybe even settlements could be included, to give them purpose as conquerable territory. On top of that, it could be a galaxy where pvp is always on, so ...it creates a different, less harmonious atmosphere.

Though haters will dump n that idea also. Well, how about a pvp Expo? Could be fun

I do like the harmony though, in NMS. Besides the annoying buzz of sentinel swarms, it's a very relaxing universe. But you know. All things change in a dynamic universe