This expedition (Exobiology) SUCKS

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

They don't tell you how to do ANYTHING. How are you supposed to find 4 milks, or 3 types of egg, or find beetles? Even the exotic creatures and Explorer's guild missions are a crapshoot. And then there's the 100% trust mission which takes way too much waiting around. Half of the missions are dumb luck, and the other half are basically impossible without using some kind of outside help. And I've been playing since before expeditions existed.

[Dirak2012]

All the creatures and items can be found along the route of the expedition. If you scan a creature, it will tell you what product can you get from each creature, as long as you visit all the planets along the way and scan all the creatures, you should have all the eggs and such.
The exotic creature is very simple, each anomalous planet have a single type of creature, just scan that one.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Dirak2012:

All the creatures and items can be found along the route of the expedition.

That tells me nothing. There are hundreds of systems "along the route".

If you scan a creature, it will tell you what product can you get from each creature, as long as you visit all the planets along the way and scan all the creatures, you should have all the eggs and such.

Except I did, and I don't. Not a single thing I've scanned tells me the kind of milk or eggs I'm missing, and most planets don't even have eggs at all.

The exotic creature is very simple, each anomalous planet have a single type of creature, just scan that one.

Assuming I can even FIND anomalous planets. Most systems don't seem to have any. I think I'm at 2 total.

[taniwhat]

Go back to the original system, follow the default route and check nearby systems on the way in if you need to, no need to go far.

Don't just go jumping about randomly. I'll concede I had a few problems but these things are reasonably well set up and generally you'll almost walk through just taking things in order. From memory the only thing that was in a system adjacent to the plotted route was the flying beetles, the rest were on worlds on the way in.

[Johnny in the Clouds]

Assuming I can even FIND anomalous planets. Most systems don't seem to have any.

Green or Red systems always seem to have them. :) Oh an as there is only type of creature you may have to walk a little way for them to appear. Also you get the bonus nanites too for scanning an entire planet and they add to the completion of zoology milestones.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by pwalt:

Go back to the original system, follow the default route and check nearby systems on the way in if you need to, no need to go far.

How can I even tell which one is the "original" system? Checkpoints disappear once you finish the mission for them, don't they?

the only thing that was in a system adjacent to the plotted route

Every system is "adjacent" to like 30 others.

Originally posted by Johnny in the Clouds:

Assuming I can even FIND anomalous planets. Most systems don't seem to have any.

Green or Red systems always seem to have them.

I don't have the blueprints for advanced hyperdrives until I find the beetles in the first place.

[NiceGuy]

Originally posted by Batabii • Starbound:

They don't tell you how to do ANYTHING. How are you supposed to find 4 milks, or 3 types of egg, or find beetles? Even the exotic creatures and Explorer's guild missions are a crapshoot. And then there's the 100% trust mission which takes way too much waiting around. Half of the missions are dumb luck, and the other half are basically impossible without using some kind of outside help. And I've been playing since before expeditions existed.

For someone who claims to know the game you obviously know nothing about it if you even don't know how to get the milk or eggs... Sorry lame

[cruste]

there are already guides all over youtube to help

you know it is an exploration game, but if you want to skip you can google

the beetle is the only thing, which can't be found in the rondezvous systems

r3, Xandrov VIII, planet muleighle for creature egg and gaint egg
r1, Itrunn VII, catickl g25 for tall eggs from striders
r2, Yubinka Ago XIV, Planet Aleu Alpha or Joycer has the bears for warm protomilk

wild milk - antelopes and rodents
fresh milk - cows
craw milk - rideable butterflies and beetles, or protoflyers
warm protomilk - biped bears

creature egg - triceratops
giant egg - diplos
tall egg - striders

The exotic creature can also be found in the rondeveus system on the planet with only 1 creature
https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Biome_-_Exotic
R5, Epzinsk Rakam had 3 of them
use your system map to quickly find the planet with only one creature under discoveries

rondezvous systems are
r1 Itrunn VII
r2 Yubinka Ago XIV
r3 Xandrov VIII
r4 Loemfor
r5 Epzinsk Rakam
if you rushed without checking

Beetles can be found
system sibkiolle planet amlin, close to r1
system moding vii on wibbly wobbly world, 350 ly away from r5, yellow sun
system syfirb riqu iv on okkinna isum, close to r1
system liftankgioa on loksha, between r1 and r2
system muforhag on paradischischer elfenplanet, 49ly from starting system, thx to rexxer
There should be also many bases named something with beetles. you know it is a community thing and player helping each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrSprFHB9SI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOo3MdGYwy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MlwKbqy8Qs
so choose the dialect you prefer fancy russian vs stiff british

you can also buy the blueprints for advanced drives on the nexus station at any time or do the beetle task so it is up to you

Have you ever throught it is meant this way as an community building incentive, so people can come together and share their knowledge without the whole ego rant.

Originally posted by Rexxer:

Although beetles can be found many places, here's a map showing where you can find some right after lifting off from the starting planet in Expedition 5:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2779011255
As an additional bonus, all the yellow stars which are visited (ie. named) are wealthy and prosperous systems, so you can start scrapping or buying materials in bulk at those systems.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by NiceGuy:

Originally posted by Batabii • Starbound:

They don't tell you how to do ANYTHING. How are you supposed to find 4 milks, or 3 types of egg, or find beetles? Even the exotic creatures and Explorer's guild missions are a crapshoot. And then there's the 100% trust mission which takes way too much waiting around. Half of the missions are dumb luck, and the other half are basically impossible without using some kind of outside help. And I've been playing since before expeditions existed.

For someone who claims to know the game you obviously know nothing about it if you even don't know how to get the milk or eggs... Sorry lame

Knowing how to get SOME milk and eggs is way different from "where to specifically get giant egg", and even if you scan for it, that doesn't help you find it. Especially when, until you actually track the mission, it's not clear that they're FOOD eggs, and not companion eggs like the previous two. It only says " Acquire 3 types of egg from friendly creatures".

Originally posted by cruste:

there are already guides all over youtube to help

That's not the point. We shouldn't NEED a guide.

you know it is an exploration game, but if you want to skip you can google

This expedition isn't exploration, it's trial and error.

the beetle is the only thing, which can't be found in the rondezvous systems

r3, Xandrov VIII, planet muleighle for creature egg and gaint egg
r1, Itrunn VII, catickl g25 for tall eggs from striders
r2, Yubinka Ago XIV, Planet Aleu Alpha or Joycer has the bears for warm protomilk

This doesn't tell me anthing because the only way to tell which system is which is to manually select each of them one by one. And this isn't information I would normally have anyway.

wild milk - antelopes and rodents
fresh milk - cows
craw milk - rideable butterflies and beetles, or protoflyers
warm protomilk - biped bears

creature egg - triceratops
giant egg - diplos
tall egg - striders

Again, even if I knew these ahead of time, it doesn't tell me how to FIND them.

you can also buy the blueprints for advanced drives on the nexus station

yeah but that defeats the point of them being rewards for progression. I shouldn't have to essentially sequence break.

[cruste]

Originally posted by Batabii • Starbound:

Originally posted by NiceGuy:

For someone who claims to know the game you obviously know nothing about it if you even don't know how to get the milk or eggs... Sorry lame

Knowing how to get SOME milk and eggs is way different from "where to specifically get giant egg", and even if you scan for it, that doesn't help you find it. Especially when, until you actually track the mission, it's not clear that they're FOOD eggs, and not companion eggs like the previous two. It only says " Acquire 3 types of egg from friendly creatures".

Originally posted by cruste:

there are already guides all over youtube to help

That's not the point. We shouldn't NEED a guide.

you know it is an exploration game, but if you want to skip you can google

This expedition isn't exploration, it's trial and error.

the beetle is the only thing, which can't be found in the rondezvous systems

r3, Xandrov VIII, planet muleighle for creature egg and gaint egg
r1, Itrunn VII, catickl g25 for tall eggs from striders
r2, Yubinka Ago XIV, Planet Aleu Alpha or Joycer has the bears for warm protomilk

This doesn't tell me anthing because the only way to tell which system is which is to manually select each of them one by one. And this isn't information I would normally have anyway.

wild milk - antelopes and rodents
fresh milk - cows
craw milk - rideable butterflies and beetles, or protoflyers
warm protomilk - biped bears

creature egg - triceratops
giant egg - diplos
tall egg - striders

Again, even if I knew these ahead of time, it doesn't tell me how to FIND them.

you can also buy the blueprints for advanced drives on the nexus station

yeah but that defeats the point of them being rewards for progression. I shouldn't have to essentially sequence break.

new content triggers influencer to create some fancy new videos, which may become the incentive for other people to buy the game.

trail and error is also part of exploration, sometimes it is maybe simply easier to restart fresh, while you got lost in space and choose your route more wisely next time.

It looks like you need the guides, if you still don't know about basic things, while you pretend that you have played the game before expedition like telling the difference between hatchable eggs and food eggs.

same goes for not knowing how to use your discovery list or simply the teleport station to find already visited systems.

as i said it is up to you, you can do the task in their order or simply ignore it and do stuff in your own way, nms gives you lots of freedom, maybe too much freedom for you

This expedition had the focus on fauna and it looks like you haven't explored all planets on your way to rondezvous 5, otherwise you had found at least the milk and eggs. The beetles proberly in one of the systems between these r points, while you still used a hypedrive with very limited range

isn't this also part of these expedition so you can learn new aspects of the game.

[Rexxer]

Originally posted by cruste:

the beetle is the only thing, which can't be found in the rondezvous systems

I got a beetle on a rendezvous system planet. It was on the first or second rendezvous system.

[Geldric™]

Hopefully you are already working on the 16 missions for the Exploration guild. Oh and don’t forget to scan those 10 flying/swimming fauna too.

Since milk & eggs have thrown you into a tizzy; in order to use those Exosuit expansion modules, just go to any expansion upgrade (space station or Nexus), even if you already bought the expansion, just press “e” until you’ve used up your upgrades.

GL & I’d say to have fun but it doesn’t seem likely :(

PS Your starting companion already has 95% so 100% trust is quite easy

[Dirak2012]

You said that every system is adjacent to 30 others, but the expedition marks a clearly straight line, it doesn't give you 30 options to where to go, just one.

[Rexxer]

Originally posted by Dirak2012:

You said that every system is adjacent to 30 others, but the expedition marks a clearly straight line, it doesn't give you 30 options to where to go, just one.

The Expedition doesn't limit you to rendezvous systems. The "path" you are talking about is just the path to get to one of the goals (aka. the rendezvous) in each phase. As far as the Expedition is concerned, you could even go to another galaxy to get some of the other quest goals. For example, if you took a trip somewhere, and at breakfast in the hotel your group said to one another, "let's rendezvous for lunch at 1 pm at the Exotic Museum Cafe"....that doesn't mean you must stay in your hotel room after breakfast then walk straight to the cafe at 12:30 pm. It means you are free to explore, but then at some point, you get together with everyone at a particular place and time.

[cruste]

Originally posted by Rexxer:

Originally posted by cruste:

the beetle is the only thing, which can't be found in the rondezvous systems

I got a beetle on a rendezvous system planet. It was on the first or second rendezvous system.

can you check the exact planet so i will add it to the list

checked the system and have one or 2 planets with 1 missing flying creature
but the beetle should be rare ground at least on the 3 planet i found it

[Dirak2012]

Originally posted by Rexxer:

Originally posted by Dirak2012:

You said that every system is adjacent to 30 others, but the expedition marks a clearly straight line, it doesn't give you 30 options to where to go, just one.

The Expedition doesn't limit you to rendezvous systems. The "path" you are talking about is just the path to get to one of the goals (aka. the rendezvous) in each phase. As far as the Expedition is concerned, you could even go to another galaxy to get some of the other quest goals. For example, if you took a trip somewhere, and at breakfast in the hotel your group said to one another, "let's rendezvous for lunch at 1 pm at the Exotic Museum Cafe"....that doesn't mean you must stay in your hotel room after breakfast then walk straight to the cafe at 12:30 pm. It means you are free to explore, but then at some point, you get together with everyone at a particular place and time.

That's not my point.

The path laid out by the expedition (following a straight line) will provide you from everything you need to finish the expedition. Exploration is not necessary.