Exotics

[Liralen]

I returned after about an 8 months break about a month or so ago. I haven't seen a single exotic with this new save, whereas on my previous save, I found so many that I struggled with which ones to keep.

After getting all the glyphs on the new save, I returned to systems where I had found nice exotics on my last save.

Is that even a relevant thing to do? i.e., have exotic spawn rates been nerfed across the board, or where always on a purely random spawn basis,independent of where they once spawned before? Was I just really lucky on my last save?

[AmberAnvil]

You just got really lucky. This time around, I'm having that kind of luck. I'm seeing exotics in just about every Space Station I enter. Usually have a hard time finding them like you.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by AmberAnvil:

You just got really lucky. This time around, I'm having that kind of luck. I'm seeing exotics in just about every Space Station I enter. Usually have a hard time finding them like you.

That's another thing that has been bugging me (both literally and figuratively).

I used to watch Stations just to get an idea of what might be available on the planets,i.e., if I see a Tier3 A Class fighter on a max wealth station, there's maybe a chance to find an S Class quicker on a planet.

So I used to watch max wealth stations for about the first three waves, just to identify ones that justify further time on the planets.

Most of the time on this save, the stations stop having more NPC ships landing, unless I leave the station and return or reload.

I also just bought a ship for scrapping (after I the post I made above), and after scrapping it, the game teleported another of my ships into the station. So I had two ships on that station after the scrapping.

I flew the one I didn't want back to my freighter. But the one I did want was not on the freighter. So I had to return to one of my bases to summon the one I did want (the game presumes to select what it thinks is my best ship, which has always been a problem, instead of keeping track of the ship I was using before scrapping a ship.)

I think they broke some things since I last played.

Edited note: Although I doubt it relates to the Exotic RNG, except it now takes more work to get the Stations to automatically have ships fly in. Or when they do, if you buy one.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by Liralen:

Originally posted by Deadly Peanut:

the game decides, somewhat randomly, which of your ships it will pop in when you scrap a ship in a station. i usually try to be flying that ship when i do a scrapping session... makes life simpler :)

It wasn't that way 8 months ago. While the game even back then overrode my preference on what ship to leave in the station after scrapping a ship, it was just one ship. Not both my preferred ship (the ship I was using before the scrapping) and the ship that it thinks is better (which is generally just an A class Tier 3 ship that I bought as a placeholder until I could find an S class, destined to be scrapped for nanites and storage augments once I find an S class, and so not worth upgrading, as I have my first A class, although not Tier 3 ship, in this new save. In my save from 8 months ago, it was generally my best exotic (despite the fact that I hadn't gotten around to fixing them up), but i'd rather tool around in my best fighter, for reasons I think most of you know, but apparently the devs don't).

Edited Note: although I do think that the current situation possibly reflects the fact that they are trying to fix it. It's just not there yet. And I do give the devs credit for trying to fix these issues, else I wouldn't be back now. But currently, they've borked it more than it was before.

I doubt if the devs intended two ships to appear in stations after scrapping, unless they've never played the game. And playing the game should be a pre-requisite/paid time before allowing any dev touching a game's code.

And I have no idea what's up with Stations not having NPC ships being allowed to land after awhile.

[Kobs]

Even at the coord. exchange where they tell you exactly where they are, the coords they give you aren't good after like 2 months. It seems every updates changes the sequence

EDIT: but it's still the best place to get one "faster"
https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=Exotic%20ships

[Hellsmoke]

I usually have to wait 2-3 hours if not more when I go to get my favorite exotic. It's absolute torture and the most boring game feature I have ever experienced in my gaming career. Sure you'll see random ones every now and then but if you want a specific one...good luck with that. I do it once per save.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by Kobs:

Even at the coord. exchange where they tell you exactly where they are, the coords they give you aren't good after like 2 months. It seems every updates changes the sequence

That's good to know, thanks! Even though I'm just using the coordinates I've found myself before ;)

[Barmy Nimrod]

Originally posted by Liralen:

Originally posted by Kobs:

Even at the coord. exchange where they tell you exactly where they are, the coords they give you aren't good after like 2 months. It seems every updates changes the sequence

That's good to know, thanks! Even though I'm just using the coordinates I've found myself before ;)

In my experience the ship seeds have not changed, I still have found the same ships, what changes is the first wave stuff. Only the frequency in which they spawn seems to have changed. I have also noticed that the reload scumming on TP platforms is less successful than before.

When I want a specific ship, I just stand on the SS platform for several waves. While there I visit all the NPCs and collect Pugneum, Gold, Silver, Platinum and Goop to refine into nanites. I'll even use the backpack refiner on everything but the goop. It takes a fare amount of waves to talk to all the NPCs that visit each platform.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by Uranium235:

Originally posted by Liralen:

That's good to know, thanks! Even though I'm just using the coordinates I've found myself before ;)

In my experience the ship seeds have not changed, I still have found the same ships, what changes is the first wave stuff. Only the frequency in which they spawn seems to have changed. I have also noticed that the reload scumming on TP platforms is less successful than before.

When I want a specific ship, I just stand on the SS platform for several waves. While there I visit all the NPCs and collect Pugneum, Gold, Silver, Platinum and Goop to refine into nanites. I'll even used the backpack refiner on everything but the goop. It takes a fare amount of waves to talk to all the NPCs that visit each platform.

I assume SS= System Stations and TP=trading post.

If so, my problem is also due to waves stopping at some point on stations (it's fine on trading posts). Like half an hour waiting with no ships.

But I think Kobs answered my questioned wrt Exotics.

[Barmy Nimrod]

Originally posted by Liralen:

Originally posted by Uranium235:

In my experience the ship seeds have not changed, I still have found the same ships, what changes is the first wave stuff. Only the frequency in which they spawn seems to have changed. I have also noticed that the reload scumming on TP platforms is less successful than before.

When I want a specific ship, I just stand on the SS platform for several waves. While there I visit all the NPCs and collect Pugneum, Gold, Silver, Platinum and Goop to refine into nanites. I'll even used the backpack refiner on everything but the goop. It takes a fare amount of waves to talk to all the NPCs that visit each platform.

I assume SS= System Stations and TP=trading post.

If so, my problem is also due to waves stopping at some point on stations (it's fine on trading posts). Like half an hour waiting with no ships.

But I think Kobs answered my questioned wrt Exotics.

You know, it's funny you mention that. I started a new save on Xbox, to play with testing some of the multiplayer dynamics and I have noticed this on the Xbox save. I just figured is had something to do with that.

I have not done the Space Station (SS) waiting game, on my main PC save in a while. In Expeditions, I just got the Vector from the Anomaly. So, I haven't done any Ship hunting. Now I'll have to test that as well.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by Uranium235:

You know, it's funny you mention that. I started a new save on Xbox, to play with testing some of the multiplayer dynamics and I have noticed this on the Xbox save. I just figured is had something to do with that.

I have not done the Space Station (SS) waiting game, on my main PC save in a while. In Expeditions, I just got the Vector from the Anomaly. So, I haven't done any Ship hunting. Now I'll have to test that as well.

Cool, thanks! I'd love to hear your results!

Misery loves company and all ;)

[Hellsmoke]

Sorry my post wasn't very helpful so let me elaborate a bit more on exotics after 1500 hours playing this game. If you want a specific exotic there are a few things to keep in mind.

1) From my experience the spawns stay consistent, I have never hunted a ship that ended up not being there so from my experience at least, the spawns haven't changed.
2) I believe the spawn time for certain exotics is at around 5 hours.
3) If you have been playing for a while chances are some exotic has spawned around you without you even noticing. Once that happens, your 5 hour timer resets so it's not smart to just go looking randomly, you have to plan it.

How to get the exotic you want

1) Do it when you first log in to make sure no exotic has spawned around you during your time playing as this would have reset your timer.

2) Go through your portal as fast as you can, no detours.

3) Find a trading post because as mentioned above, stations simply stop spawning sometimes and the ship could spawn and get stuck in traffic outside and you'll never even know it. You could be there all day..literally.

4) Make sure there are no other buildings with landing pads around you on the other side of a mountain for example because the ship could land there and fly off again without you even noticing.

5) Once at the trading post, stand in the corner of the landing pad and pull up your build camera. This allows you to pull the camera back and see the whole landing pad and it also prevents weather from hurting you.


Bonus

This is the coolest exotic in the game imo and one of the more rare ones. Enjoy. :)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2496504323

This is in Euclid.
I just tested it to make sure, took me 12 minutes to get it after starting the game for the first time today and heading straight there.

[Gumsk]

There's no timer. It's a 1:301 chance with every ship that spawns.

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by Gumsk:

There's no timer. It's a 1:301 chance with every ship that spawns.

Could be, I'm not exactly sure. I have read otherwise and have not seen any code to confirm or deny either theory. What I explained is purely based on my personal experience. The other day while gaming I went to get one and ended up waiting 4 hours, today I tested it in a clean game and it came in 12 minutes so I'm leaning towards my theory atm.

[Barmy Nimrod]

Originally posted by Gumsk:

There's no timer. It's a 1:301 chance with every ship that spawns.

I think it's random based on some probability. There have been days, when doing other things, I have stumbled on several in a few hours play. Mostly commonly when I land at TPs and jump down to ground level to do things. I hear the Exotics landing. I always screen shot those, if I can, and post on Reddit. However, I have an orange Squid and a White V-Wing that I wouldn't want to replace. My main ship is an X-Wing Explorer, I really don't use the Exotics much.

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by JJ Silvergrey:

The game files show ship spawn mechanics.

Gumsk knows, he's a major mod creator.

Like I said, I'm not sure because I have not seen the code myself. What I posted is my assumption based on my personal experience in the game. I'm not familiar with Gumsk as I have never modded NMS and I'm not saying he is wrong, I'm just saying I can not confirm or deny either theory myself but to me it sure feels like there is a timer on these spawns. Both could be true for all I know because if it was really that random then you'd see them more often.

That said, this is all based on my opinion. I have been modding many years myself but I haven't touched NMS and if he is a major mod creator then he probably knows what he is talking about but that doesn't help me get my ship. My method has worked out quite well so far. I tested it before posting in this thread just to confirm my theory and it seemed to work out as expected.