xbox game pass game better performance than steam versions.

[Isthatyoudave?]

It seems there is a definite difference in performance in games on gamepass compared to steam.

taking no mans sky for instance using the exact same settings on each the steam version is unplayable due to stutter and hitching while the gamepass version is smooth.

Is microsoft limiting steam on windows now due to pushing their own services or is steam's backend causing added lack now that previously?

Something is not quite right.

even while steam is running the gamepass versions have better performance and are smooth.

[Masque]

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Publicado originalmente por Isthatyoudave?:

Most reviews on gamepass are either publicity reviews or people trying to run games on their fathers old word processor pc with a green screen. every bad review is for crashing. I have not had a single game crash or even not start on there.

I have now got someone else to test the very same thing and theirs does it also.

I can switch back and forth between games and the gamepass version is the only one that plays smooth enough to be playable.

All gamepass games work on my system perfect even with gsync. The only game on there that was terrible was the outer worlds, which stuttered so badly and looked like a game from the 90's. I uninstalled that one.

10700k, 3060 ti, and 32gb 3200mhz ram here. It's unplayable on Game Pass for me. Good to know it's also unplayable on Steam so I don't waste my money on this half assed game.

I have the same specs only except I have a i7-4790k and DDR3.

Game runs like butter (Steam version) on my system. 4th gen CPU.

Granted I'm using 1080p 60 hz, so that might be a factor in the difference between my experience and yours. But it's run beautifully on my system, even when I still had a 1660 Ti.

The 3060 Ti just let me crank every option up to Ultra. The only stutter I ever get is when I exit the atmosphere, just for a fraction of a second, before hitting outer space.

[Zak]

10700K, 3060TI and 32GB should be running NMS fine on medium to high settings up to 1440p or on ultra at 1080p (as Masque said above). I have 9900K, 3080 and 32GB and I'm running on Ultra around 80-120fps @1440p with some drops below 60fps in large bases, so 3060TI shouldn't be "unplayable".

But the game is really buggy so I'm not gonna convince anyone to purchase it, especially at a full price, if they have doubts.

The stutter when leaving atmosphere happens to all regardless of how powerful their hardware is. It's just the way it is.

[STATIK]

Publicado originalmente por Zak:

But the game is really buggy

How do people have bugs in NMS? My experience with the game, almost 2k hours, has been basically completely bug free.

[DEDloc_©]

Some of you need to go play Division 2....find out what it's really like to get treated like ass by devs who don't care about selling a broken product.
This game has it's problems but they are quite minor in comparison and at least the devs actually care and have some pride in what they do.

[Zak]

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But the game is really buggy

How do people have bugs in NMS? My experience with the game, almost 2k hours, has been basically completely bug free.

Ever built a base in 2000 hours and you never fell through the floor for instance when exiting a teleporter or spawned 100u away from the base? You never had a bugged mission? Missing mission marker? You never saw a mission destination building floating in midair? Or a door wouldn't open, or the door would open but you can't get through to get to mission objective? Being sent to the same mission destination over and over? Many Nexus missions on Anomaly abandon repeatedly for the last couple of weeks, unplayable. Your refiners, gas extractors or portable mining units never lost their content? You never exited a portal and found yourself underground? Your keybindings never changed randomly? You never saw an empty conversation from NPC so you can't interact with them? Your starship never spawned next to you inside a room as you exited the teleporter, blocking your way out? You never saw a huge Frigate flying through your base out from underground? You can't change movement keys for exocraft, it's not in the settings. I could go on, but these are the ones I can think of right away.

[STATIK]

Publicado originalmente por Zak:

Publicado originalmente por JJ SilverWhite:

How do people have bugs in NMS? My experience with the game, almost 2k hours, has been basically completely bug free.

Ever built a base in 2000 hours and you never fell through the floor for instance when exiting a teleporter or spawned 100u away from the base? You never had a bugged mission? Missing mission marker? You never saw a mission destination building floating in midair? Or a door wouldn't open, or the door would open but you can't get through to get to mission objective? Being sent to the same mission destination over and over? Many Nexus missions on Anomaly abandon repeatedly for the last couple of weeks, unplayable. Your refiners, gas extractors or portable mining units never lost their content? You never exited a portal and found yourself underground? Your keybindings never changed randomly? You never saw an empty conversation from NPC so you can't interact with them? Your starship never spawned next to you inside a room as you exited the teleporter, blocking your way out? You never saw a huge Frigate flying through your base out from underground? You can't change movement keys for exocraft, it's not in the settings. I could go on, but these are the ones I can think of right away.

that must be why. I don't do missions; and rarely build bases. I just explore.

[Zak]

Publicado originalmente por JJ SilverWhite:

Publicado originalmente por Zak:

Ever built a base in 2000 hours and you never fell through the floor for instance when exiting a teleporter or spawned 100u away from the base? You never had a bugged mission? Missing mission marker? You never saw a mission destination building floating in midair? Or a door wouldn't open, or the door would open but you can't get through to get to mission objective? Being sent to the same mission destination over and over? Many Nexus missions on Anomaly abandon repeatedly for the last couple of weeks, unplayable. Your refiners, gas extractors or portable mining units never lost their content? You never exited a portal and found yourself underground? Your keybindings never changed randomly? You never saw an empty conversation from NPC so you can't interact with them? Your starship never spawned next to you inside a room as you exited the teleporter, blocking your way out? You never saw a huge Frigate flying through your base out from underground? You can't change movement keys for exocraft, it's not in the settings. I could go on, but these are the ones I can think of right away.

that must be why. I don't do missions; and rarely build bases. I just explore.

Allright, so you're not really playing this game the way many people do. Your observation of "basically completely bug free" is invalid then.

[Dragoncat]

I play on steam and I get great fps, no lag and few glitches.

[STATIK]

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that must be why. I don't do missions; and rarely build bases. I just explore.

Allright, so you're not really playing this game the way many people do. Your observation of "basically completely bug free" is invalid then.

Or it's the most valid. Clearly my style creates the best game experience. If everyone played NMS like I do, it would be the most beloved game ever created.

[STATIK]

The problem is, 'most people' try to treat this game like an mmorpg. Focusing on making money, running errands for NPCs, laying down a homestead to farm more units... to buy nothing...

This isnt that kind of game. This isnt a 'get rich and get the best stuff' type of game. Basebuilding and doing quests for npcs was never supposed to be a major part of NMS.

The game is supposed to be about nomadic exploration and discovery. That's it.

[Zak]

Publicado originalmente por JJ SilverWhite:

Publicado originalmente por Zak:

Allright, so you're not really playing this game the way many people do. Your observation of "basically completely bug free" is invalid then.

Or it's the most valid. Clearly my style creates the best game experience. If everyone played NMS like I do, it would be the most beloved game ever created.

Your point of view may be a little biased, no?

Publicado originalmente por JJ SilverWhite:

The game is supposed to be about nomadic exploration and discovery. That's it.

No. You don't tell others what the game is supposed to be about. The game has many aspects that are there to be exploited and enjoyed. Exploration is just one part of the game. The beauty of the game is indeed that you can make your own game indeed. But many people enjoy running missions, building, farming, etc and if you try to experience the game to its fullest then you will see a lot more problems with it.

[DEDloc_©]

I actually just built a new PC, so all of my problems are gone. Max settings on the steam version, smooth as silk. Maybe check your setup. Something is likely configured incorrectly.

[nano]

>> i7 2600k+16GB+GTX 970 <<
The game is perfect for me and more than 60 fps, logically I play at the default quality of the game

Remember several things:
- By default the game is limited to 30 fps, change it to 60fps or 120fps depending on your monitor
- The antivirus of Windows 10/11 can have activated the protection of the core, which makes your games really slow, the first time I realized it was with DaysGone, having it activated towards the game running at 5 fps, was to remove it and work at more than 60 fps
- Game with multiplayer activated can produce crashes of 1 second, if it is true that this happens to me, but not always

It can't be that my 10-year-old computer works better than yours

Test your computer bottleneck here:
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/

[Zak]

Publicado originalmente por DEDloc_©:

I actually just built a new PC, so all of my problems are gone. Max settings on the steam version, smooth as silk. Maybe check your setup. Something is likely configured incorrectly.

I have no performance issues with NMS either. Sometimes some stutter on planets with lots of other players bases. There is some weirdness going on though affecting some people. Bad stutter mostly and strangely low FPS. This comes up often and nobody identified the source of this. Sure, people are trying to run it on 1050 or Intel laptop GPU sometimes but some people have weird technical issues with NMS even on hardware more powerful than mine. There was a guy with top-shelf AMD CPU and a 4090 getting like 30fps in NMS while other games run perfectly fine. He never figured it out.

[Zak]

Publicado originalmente por nano:

The antivirus of Windows 10/11 can have activated the protection of the core, which makes your games really slow

The game slowdown caused by Memory Integrity/Core Isolation in Windows 11 is largely a myth. It was never an issue in Windows 10. MS has an article saying that in "some scenarios and some configurations" (meaning "pretty freaking rare") it may affect performance on Windows 11, but we're talking few percent at worst, not a difference of 5-60 fps like you say. Some tech bloggers tried to benchmark it and they got like 5% in the worst case scenario on older hardware. Memory Integrity/Core Isolation in Windows 11 is an important security feature, please don't suggest that people should turn it off. The problem is that once you turn it off it may be impossible to turn it back on so it's not worth the risk.

I upgraded from Windows 10 to 11 last Summer on the same hardware and I have not noticed any difference in gaming performance and I did not mess with Memory Integrity.