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Kat Ballou Mar 2, 2021 @ 10:40pm
Confusing information about Living Ship
Some of the videos that I've watched about Living Ships indicate that you don't have a choice about the first Living Ship you "birth" from the egg (you have to accept whatever the Fallen Host is when you get to the location), but that you can then get a second egg and "shop around" for the perfect LS for you using info from sites like NMSCoordinateExchange. However, there's a guide on Reddit that is a walkthrough of the LS process and it says "If the living ship design, color or stats are not satisfactory, the player can reload a manual save and teleport or portal travel to a different system, where a different Fallen Host will be offered." That seems to contradict what the youtube videos stated. Which information is correct? (Maybe it changed with one of the many updates?) The guide was written a year ago and is focused on the primary mission, not the process of using a 2nd egg to get a LS.

I have the glyphs of a rainbow-colored LS that I would like to get, and I'm currently on phase 4 of the LS quest, so in a couple more days I'll be at the point of either accepting the LS that RNG gives me, or looking for the rainbow one. I really appreciate your help explaining what my options are as I finish this quest. Thanks!
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Lucky Luc Mar 3, 2021 @ 1:27am 
Do a save just before it send to the host, and if you dont like that ship just reload save, there will be a different ship
BlackDragon Mar 3, 2021 @ 5:20am 
That's true, sort of... well, as someone who's currently in the progress of trying to acquire his dream-ship, allow me to share a bit of what I've learned so far.

First of all, you can certainly change the design of your first Living Ship too. The catch is, from your second onward, you can use the 'Reset Trick' to get exactly the one you want far easier. For your first... that's not really an option, I'm afraid, so you'll have to contend with the RNG.

Here's how you can do it: When you finish the last mission of the quest-line, you'll get a communication as soon as you get into your ship again. DO NOT ACCEPT IT. There's an option to 'Detach your communicator' or something like that. You may have to do it twice before the game gets the message. Even afterwards, you'll have the 'Incoming Message' warble chirping away as long as you're in the ship, and as soon as you accept that incoming message, your Living Ship will spawn.

So, before you do that, fly back to the portal (the last mission requires you to traverse one), and return to where you came from. Then reconfigure the portal with the directions you got from the NMSCE, and head to the appropriate system. Bring a portable save-point.

Now, here's where things may get tricky. Theoretically, according to the guides, as soon as you're through the portal, you can just plop down your save-point, get in your ship, and accept the patiently-waiting message to make your living ship spawn on a random crash-site somewhere in that system. Living Ships basically replace regular ship crash-sites when the quest activates, and the configuration of the ship is predetermined based on what exact crash-site it spawns in at. So you just need it to spawn in at the exact crash-site the post mentioned, and probably provided coordinates for, and you're golden!

However, when I tried this, I found that the mission would invariably send me to a different planet than the one I had emerged on - a specific other planet in the solar-system - and NEVER direct me to a crash-site on the same planet I was on, or indeed the last planet I had landed on, if I flew out into space before accepting the call. Since I'd emerged on the exact planet that the ship I wanted was supposed to appear on, that was kind of a problem! If that happens to you too, there's a simple fix. Pick up that save-point, get back in your ship, ignore the waiting-message warble, and fly to whatever moon or planet the mission keeps targeting. Land THERE, deploy save-point, make new manual save, and THEN get in your ship and accept the call. When I did this, the mission started pointing back towards the planet I'd just left 100% of the time - which means I only have to contend with all the crash-sites on that planet, and NOT the whole solar-system!

Every time I get in the ship and accept the call, I get sent to a different crash-site, featuring a Living Ship with a different design and color-palette. Some of them have been reasonably nice, but I still haven't seen anything I really want, nor has it spawned as the specifically designated crash-site that I'm actively targeting. All I can say is, I hope YOUR ship-of-dreams is found on a SMALL planet, or better yet, a moon. =_=
Kat Ballou Mar 3, 2021 @ 6:56am 
Thank you for such a great explanation! I'll give that a try and hopefully be able to find the ship I want!
BlackDragon Mar 4, 2021 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Kat Ballou:
Thank you for such a great explanation! I'll give that a try and hopefully be able to find the ship I want!

Well, after spending a few hours trying to get my own perfect pick, let me share a couple more pieces of sage advice...

First of all, MAKE SURE that the ship you found at NMSCE is listed as being in your galaxy, which is probably 'Euclid' - quite a few of the Living Ship listings are in other galaxies, probably because people who've gotten that far have the leisure to start collecting interesting LS variants. :P Second, if possible, you may want to pick one that's located on a moon or small planetoid, for better odds. Mine was on a rather large planet, which probably had a few hundred crash-sites to pick from.

Second, there are basically two possible approaches to searching for the ship you want - what I like to call 'Hedged Bets' and 'All In'. Hedged Bets means you go take a look at every ship the mission directs you to - that'll make each attempt take maybe 2-3 minutes. You can use Photo Mode to inspect the ship in detail while overflying it, even move the sun around to so that you can gauge the colors probably. If you see one you like, you can land and step out of your ship to make an autosave, which you can then revert to if you wind up giving up on the grind for the PERFECT ship.

As for the All In approach - if you're DETERMINED to get THAT ONE SHIP and don't care about anything else - you start by flying to the specified coordinates. There may even be a Communication Station placed there to help you. Once you're at that specific crash-site, place a Save Beacon. That'll allow you to easily spot the location even from another planet. Then, whenever you reload and activate the final leg of the mission, you'll only need to take off from the planet and look at your target - if the mission indicator isn't anywhere near the save-beacon, you know this ain't the one, and can reload immediately - maybe 30 seconds, total, for each try. If the indicator IS near the save-beacon, you'll probably want to fly on over and take a closer look still, and 'close' can be rather relative when you're looking from one planet to the next one over, but you'll still save a lot of time.

And me? I spent something like 4-5 hours searching, using the 'Hedged Bets' method, over the course of two days. Visited more than a hundred crash-sites, saw a few twice, still never found the one I was searching for. Wound up settling for my 'bookmarked' option - a decent enough ship with black-and-gold armor and triple thrusters. Maybe some day, when I've bought everything else the Quicksilver Shop has to offer, I'll buy myself another Void Egg and try again with the Reset Method...
Kat Ballou Mar 4, 2021 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by BlackDragon:

Well, after spending a few hours trying to get my own perfect pick, let me share a couple more pieces of sage advice...

First of all, MAKE SURE that the ship you found at NMSCE is listed as being in your galaxy, which is probably 'Euclid' -

Yes, the one I'm after is in Euclid, which is the galaxy that I'm in.

Originally posted by BlackDragon:

As for the All In approach - if you're DETERMINED to get THAT ONE SHIP and don't care about anything else - you start by flying to the specified coordinates. There may even be a Communication Station placed there to help you. Once you're at that specific crash-site, place a Save Beacon. That'll allow you to easily spot the location even from another planet. Then, whenever you reload and activate the final leg of the mission, you'll only need to take off from the planet and look at your target - if the mission indicator isn't anywhere near the save-beacon, you know this ain't the one, and can reload immediately - maybe 30 seconds, total, for each try. If the indicator IS near the save-beacon, you'll probably want to fly on over and take a closer look still, and 'close' can be rather relative when you're looking from one planet to the next one over, but you'll still save a lot of time.

I'm thinking that maybe I should go to the planet where the desired ship is supposed to spawn, go to the coordinates and place a save beacon today. The final part of the quest line won't start until tonight about 8:30PM my time, so I have plenty of time to try to locate the place where it is supposed to spawn. Would that work to help me with the final search?

Also, I've got one question about your original post. You said that after I get the souls and finish the quest, I shouldn't accept the communication, fly back to the portal that I came through and return to where I came from. I was wondering why I couldn't just input the glyphs for the location that my desired LS is supposed to be on, rather than returning to the previous location and then having to put in the glyphs for the LS' planet. Is it necessary to return to the previous location in order to trigger something in the game (or possibly not trigger it...I really don't understand some of the inner workings of the game. lol).

You've been a wonderful help and I'm sorry that you didn't find your dream ship so far. If I had another egg, I'd give it to you! Fingers crossed that this works for me, but if not, I'll do the same thing you did and accept one, then try again at some point in the game.
Kat Ballou Mar 5, 2021 @ 9:31am 
Unfortunately I wasn't able to get that rainbow ship. Things went well until after I collected the souls. Your instructions were to then fly back to the portal and go back through to the previous location. I wasn't able to find that portal because people had placed bases around the portal so I couldn't place a save beacon when I got to the planet. It kept telling me I couldn't build there (and yes, I had MP turned off). There were so many bases on that planet! I don't understand why the game sends everyone to the same portal address for that part of the quest and then let's them drop base computers all over the planet, which makes it even more difficult to try to find the locations you're looking for. I incorrectly assumed that some of those would lead me to the designated coordinates, but only one of the grave sites was next to a base, so those bases were no help to me. But I digress.

I made a good save and backed up the files. Then I went back to my home planet and reset the mission. (It told me that since I was so far from the mission, I could reset it.) Unfortunately when I went to the planet that my rainbow ship is on, the message I got was that the planet didn't fit the requirements of my egg (I don't remember the exact wording). After doing some experimenting, I gave up, restored the backup and finished the quest the "normal" way. The LS isn't rainbow, but it isn't bad looking either. The colors are hard to describe since it depends so much on the lighting, but it seems to be purple and black. So I'll be looking to eventually get another egg and pay the 10k nanites for that dream ship. :steamhappy: Thanks for helping though! (And if anyone has an egg to spare, hit me up. lol)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/VjPXMoh.jpg[/img] Photo of my LS

P.S. Now I'm officially a member of the "I hate the LS quest line" club! I've never been so glad to finish a quest as I am with that one. The first few parts weren't so bad even with the time gates (yes, I know I could have changed my system clock, but frankly I needed the break each day from that quest), but the last part was highly frustrating due to all the storms stirring up so much dust that I couldn't see anything and had to just wait out the storm each time. I'm so glad that I did it, but I don't think I'll ever do it again even if I start a new save.
Krash Megiddo Mar 5, 2021 @ 9:58am 
Every time I'm tempted to start the LS quest, I read posts like this and decide no thanks.
Lucky Luc Mar 5, 2021 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:
Every time I'm tempted to start the LS quest, I read posts like this and decide no thanks.
It ain't hard, just boring
BlackDragon Mar 5, 2021 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Kat Ballou:
I made a good save and backed up the files. Then I went back to my home planet and reset the mission. (It told me that since I was so far from the mission, I could reset it.) Unfortunately when I went to the planet that my rainbow ship is on, the message I got was that the planet didn't fit the requirements of my egg (I don't remember the exact wording). After doing some experimenting, I gave up, restored the backup and finished the quest the "normal" way. The LS isn't rainbow, but it isn't bad looking either. The colors are hard to describe since it depends so much on the lighting, but it seems to be purple and black. So I'll be looking to eventually get another egg and pay the 10k nanites for that dream ship. :steamhappy: Thanks for helping though! (And if anyone has an egg to spare, hit me up. lol)

Right... well, I suppose I should've just said that you need to get back to a portal, however you choose to do that. You could've used a regular gate on the local space-station or your Freighter to return somewhere you know there's a portal waiting, that works too. As for just going back to the gate on that planet, yeah, SOMETIMES they remain indicated, and sometimes that indicator just DISAPPEARS for some reason - I'm assuming bug. I've also often found that I just can't access the 'controls' for the gate until I return back through it, hence suggesting that you go through and THEN select a new address. Certainly, if the games let you, you can just go straight from the rather over-crowded egg-address planet to where you want to be.

The whole thing about the reset, though, suggests that you did something wrong. Quite a lot of things, even. Firstly, if you reset a mission, you will RESET THE MISSION. That means you have to start it all over again. Like, you'd have to go back to that specific planet and find the three ghosts again. That is why the 'reset method' doesn't work with your first Living Ship - when you get a second, the mission is just 'go here and collect your ship', which means you can reset it without consequences. However, you shouldn't have had the OPTION to reset unless you messed up and accepted the call from the Host after collecting the three souls. The moment you did that, the location of your living ship was fixed in that star-system, and going too far from it (like going through the portal, for instance) would give you the option to reset it.

When you got back in your ship after collecting the third ghost, you were SUPPOSED to refuse the communication from the Host - 'Disconnect Communicator'. That would prevent a mission-goal from appearing, which means you could 'bring the mission with you' through the portal, to another star-system, and then pick up the comms THERE to get a different ship.
Kat Ballou Mar 5, 2021 @ 11:51am 
I'm sure I did mess up someplace although I reloaded and tried several different scenarios, which actually made things rather confusing at times. But it doesn't matter, I'm just glad I finished and at some point I'll get the other ship. One good thing that came out of it was that I went to the portal address that was supposed to be for the rainbow ship and found that it took me to a different planet than was specified on the NMSCE post. Turns out that the picture was from an xbox and although it put me in the correct system, it was the wrong planet. I was able to find the correct planet and find the coords. (Turns out that the first glyph is different for pc users, and the last part of the planet name is different.) Someone was kind enough to have left a Comm Ball at the spawn location! So now when I've got that second egg, I know exactly what glyphs to enter and how to find it quickly on the planet!
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Date Posted: Mar 2, 2021 @ 10:40pm
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