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Fahr Aug 18, 2021 @ 4:55pm
[Linux] Help.. No DLSS option.
I know DLSS is supported in Linux. Is there something i need to do for it to be available in Manjaro 21.1.0 (Gnome)??
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taniwhat Aug 18, 2021 @ 5:17pm 
You need to install the Nvidia BETA driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-470.42.01.run manually AND be using proton experimental.

I only had DLSS running for a week before Ubuntu picked up the official 470.57.02 update and DLSS went away again. It did work though with the only downside I saw being the ship console looking a bit grainy, I don't have a gaming monitor so topped out at 60fps which I mostly do anyway.

IF you have the driver support it'll show in graphics options as alternatives to the others.

It's not mainstream yet as far as I know and the Nvidia driver was *very* hard to find and it's relatively painful to install as well. So painful I can't be bothered going to the effort of backleveling and disabling updates just so I can have DLSS.


Fahr Aug 18, 2021 @ 5:30pm 
Originally posted by pwalt:
You need to install the Nvidia BETA driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-470.42.01.run manually AND be using proton experimental.

I only had DLSS running for a week before Ubuntu picked up the official 470.57.02 update and DLSS went away again. It did work though with the only downside I saw being the ship console looking a bit grainy, I don't have a gaming monitor so topped out at 60fps which I mostly do anyway.

IF you have the driver support it'll show in graphics options as alternatives to the others.

It's not mainstream yet as far as I know and the Nvidia driver was *very* hard to find and it's relatively painful to install as well. So painful I can't be bothered going to the effort of backleveling and disabling updates just so I can have DLSS.
One thing.. Manjaro 21.1.0 has 470.63.01 prebuilt. Should I renstall it using the .run file?
taniwhat Aug 18, 2021 @ 6:22pm 
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You need to install the Nvidia BETA driver <b>NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-470.42.01.run</b> manually
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I know DLSS went away with the non-beta 470.57.02 update and don't have access to 470.63.01 yet to see what happens with that. I needed both the correct nvidia driver AND proton experimental to make this work.

Prebuilt is certainly safer and easier to install but I can't tell you whether it'll work.
Fahr Aug 18, 2021 @ 8:13pm 
Originally posted by pwalt:
"
You need to install the Nvidia BETA driver <b>NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-470.42.01.run</b> manually
"

I know DLSS went away with the non-beta 470.57.02 update and don't have access to 470.63.01 yet to see what happens with that. I needed both the correct nvidia driver AND proton experimental to make this work.

Prebuilt is certainly safer and easier to install but I can't tell you whether it'll work.
I got it. The new release today of Manjaro Gnome with just the right post-install config got it. Thanks for the help though.
Rabcor Aug 18, 2021 @ 8:39pm 
Originally posted by Daxi:
One thing.. Manjaro 21.1.0 has 470.63.01 prebuilt. Should I renstall it using the .run file?

If you do not know what you're doing, it is inadvisable to mess with installing third party/unofficial software packages on Linux. The answer to this question you just asked for example, is almost universally gonna be a resounding hell no, no matter what distro you're on.

However if you are on Manjaro you are in luck because you have access to AUR which is the best unofficial software repository in the entire world of linux... But you gotta be a bit careful about it, because AUR is made for Arch Linux, and although Manjaro is mostly compatible with it, some packages will not be. If I recall correctly, drivers are one of these things.

Manjaro has it's own driver management subsystem, it's called MHWD if I remember correctly, you do not want to ♥♥♥♥ with any drivers managed by MHWD by installing them through some other source like AUR because you might break your installation (See what I mean about being careful?), the actual best case scenario is that it just wouldn't work right.

Just tread with care when you are installing packages not from your official repository ok? Thanks to AUR, most of the time it will go right, but if you install the wrong package because you don't have the information needed to recognize why it might break something in your system, you're just screwing yourself over.

Read up about it, actually learn it, this is the biggest difference between linux and windows as an end user (no just downloading .exe or .run files and double clicking ok? although there are some comparable things that are valid options but most long-time linux users tend to avoid them if they can get official or reliable unofficial packages instead)

There's a bit of a learning curve to this stuff and if you start experimenting with it (which is perfectly ok) you gotta be at least mentally prepared for the possibility that you're gonna end up breaking something and need to reinstall the entire thing to fix your mistake because you don't actually know what your mistake was and thus can't fix it by directly undoing it.
Last edited by Rabcor; Aug 18, 2021 @ 8:42pm
Fahr Aug 18, 2021 @ 9:17pm 
Originally posted by Rabcor:
Originally posted by Daxi:
One thing.. Manjaro 21.1.0 has 470.63.01 prebuilt. Should I renstall it using the .run file?

If you do not know what you're doing, it is inadvisable to mess with installing third party/unofficial software packages on Linux. The answer to this question you just asked for example, is almost universally gonna be a resounding hell no, no matter what distro you're on.

However if you are on Manjaro you are in luck because you have access to AUR which is the best unofficial software repository in the entire world of linux... But you gotta be a bit careful about it, because AUR is made for Arch Linux, and although Manjaro is mostly compatible with it, some packages will not be. If I recall correctly, drivers are one of these things.

Manjaro has it's own driver management subsystem, it's called MHWD if I remember correctly, you do not want to ♥♥♥♥ with any drivers managed by MHWD by installing them through some other source like AUR because you might break your installation (See what I mean about being careful?), the actual best case scenario is that it just wouldn't work right.

Just tread with care when you are installing packages not from your official repository ok? Thanks to AUR, most of the time it will go right, but if you install the wrong package because you don't have the information needed to recognize why it might break something in your system, you're just screwing yourself over.

Read up about it, actually learn it, this is the biggest difference between linux and windows as an end user (no just downloading .exe or .run files and double clicking ok? although there are some comparable things that are valid options but most long-time linux users tend to avoid them if they can get official or reliable unofficial packages instead)

There's a bit of a learning curve to this stuff and if you start experimenting with it (which is perfectly ok) you gotta be at least mentally prepared for the possibility that you're gonna end up breaking something and need to reinstall the entire thing to fix your mistake because you don't actually know what your mistake was and thus can't fix it by directly undoing it.
I should say I am and have been a long term linux user, I'm all too familiar with the quirks that come with it lol. I used to be a Pop OS / Ubuntu user but the recent switch to Arch by Valve made me decide to do it too. Manjaro being the easiest option to get installed. It was weird really... I installed 3 times, I swear it was just the order in which I installed stuff this time cause now its working fine. I usually have no issues getting all the basics installed but weird things happen lol.
Rabcor Aug 19, 2021 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Daxi:
I should say I am and have been a long term linux user, I'm all too familiar with the quirks that come with it lol. I used to be a Pop OS / Ubuntu user but the recent switch to Arch by Valve made me decide to do it too. Manjaro being the easiest option to get installed. It was weird really... I installed 3 times, I swear it was just the order in which I installed stuff this time cause now its working fine. I usually have no issues getting all the basics installed but weird things happen lol.

Yeah, I started my linux experience with Gentoo... it took me like a week to actually get my first install up and running, it was crazy, but after I got used to gentoo I just got kinda tired of having to compile every package every time I wanted to install or update anything (I mean... those web browsers man, they can take hours to compile... and that's just one program!))

So I tried arch instead, and I loved it. But over the years I had problems with them, you need to keep track of their website news because soemtimes they push out updates that break the system and they tell you on their website how to fix it, and that kind of ♥♥♥♥ kept breaking my install; or sometimes it'd be idk a couple months between updates for me and then everything would just irrevocably break. Also their community is kinda toxic as ♥♥♥♥.

So I started looking for alternatives but I didn't like anything that wasn't arch based because after getting used to AUR, I need it. I can't live without it.

So I tried antergos for a while and it was kinda ok but it was really just arch with an installer, not it's own distro in anything but name.

Then I decided to give manjaro a try and I've been a believer ever since. Manjaro's my favorite distro too. I installed it, everything just works, it's great, I can still use it like I used arch if I want to, installing everything through the terminal, but if I feel like installing it through a gui or browsing for a specific package or even browsing for AUR packages through a GUI, all that stuff is an option too. In my opinion manjaro is just the simply best distro there is. It's got all the versatility of arch and all the ease of use of more mainstream distros like mint or ubuntu in just one package, and perhaps best of all, it's rolling release (which is critical for things like gamers, cus if you're not on a rolling release distro you are always stuck with outdated software and outdated drivers, and as a gamer you do not want outdated graphics drivers and, well, sometimes you just want the latest releases of software and to not have to wait an extra half a year or full year even to get it).

So to me, I don't care if you're a beginner that never used linux or an expert linux user, I'd always recommend you use Manjaro, because for all my use cases as a consumer and as a poweruser it's the best, and there's nothing in it that makes it less user friendly than any other 'user friendly' distro. The fact that almost everything on the arch wiki still applies on manjaro certainly helps as well (the arch wiki is one of the best linux resources out there you know).

But yeah sometimes it happens that you try to install a linux distro that entirely should work just out of the box but it won't. Sometimes Manjaro is that distro (I recall having that experience with opensuse)

And when that happens, and you're not a veteran linux superuser at least, you can't fix it. (Although: You can usually check the community for the distro in question and see if anybody else had the same problem and what their solution for it was; or just ask about it yourself if you don't find that. Usually if something like this happens to you, it's happened to someone else too).
Last edited by Rabcor; Aug 19, 2021 @ 12:49pm
leuchtrakete Sep 8, 2021 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by pwalt:
I got it. The new release today of Manjaro Gnome with just the right post-install config got it. Thanks for the help though.

maybe you can help. some days ago i got my new power house. its a i7-10870H, 32G RAM Nvidia RTX3080 max-q 16G. the laptop monitor is 144Hz!!!

i installed my manjaro kde, all my apps and copied my home over from my old machine. its working perfectly. the only thing i cant get to run is dlss with no man's sky. i got all the latest updates. nvidia 470.63.01.

what you mean with "the right post-intall config"? what did you do?

what i tried:

* reinstall the game

* different protons. - also the ge proton builds - and of course experimental

* get the latest nvngx_dlss.dll and replace the orignal in the binary folder of nms.

the last two options i tried in all thinkable variants.

its frustrating. having a high end laptop, reading everywhere about dlss and it dont show up in the game options.

i am not afraid of trying different things and breaking the system. btrfs, timeshift and clonezilla are really good friends ...
thanks
Last edited by leuchtrakete; Sep 8, 2021 @ 1:43pm
Fahr Sep 9, 2021 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by leuchtrakete:
Originally posted by pwalt:
I got it. The new release today of Manjaro Gnome with just the right post-install config got it. Thanks for the help though.

maybe you can help. some days ago i got my new power house. its a i7-10870H, 32G RAM Nvidia RTX3080 max-q 16G. the laptop monitor is 144Hz!!!

i installed my manjaro kde, all my apps and copied my home over from my old machine. its working perfectly. the only thing i cant get to run is dlss with no man's sky. i got all the latest updates. nvidia 470.63.01.

what you mean with "the right post-intall config"? what did you do?

what i tried:

* reinstall the game

* different protons. - also the ge proton builds - and of course experimental

* get the latest nvngx_dlss.dll and replace the orignal in the binary folder of nms.

the last two options i tried in all thinkable variants.

its frustrating. having a high end laptop, reading everywhere about dlss and it dont show up in the game options.

i am not afraid of trying different things and breaking the system. btrfs, timeshift and clonezilla are really good friends ...
thanks
Well I did a reinstall and having the same issues again. I think it is something to do with manjaro installing the "prime" drivers over the normal one.
I'd try installing with open source drivers, update, install wine and dependencies, reboot, install steam from the sotware store and prey.
My failsafe is to use Pop OS. It runs DLSS fine, and right out of the box. Which will help with other DLSS titles. Don't mess with the kernel or anything, just install NMS and profit.
leuchtrakete Sep 9, 2021 @ 9:11am 
maybe there will be a solution in the future. i really have no mood to reinstall my whole system again, just to get this to run maybe. i think i will look around in the manjaro forums and put it there.

its one thing to mess with the system and clonezilla it back over night ... but setting up all new is pfhhh ... ok i am routinized. i set up chaotic aur first of all. than run a pamac install with all my apps. than some other small changes, copy home over and done. all in all 3 hours and its done ... - its painfull.

pop os is no option for me. i just love manjaro, arch and the aur and chaotic aur.

thanks for your help.
Fahr Sep 9, 2021 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by leuchtrakete:
maybe there will be a solution in the future. i really have no mood to reinstall my whole system again, just to get this to run maybe. i think i will look around in the manjaro forums and put it there.

its one thing to mess with the system and clonezilla it back over night ... but setting up all new is pfhhh ... ok i am routinized. i set up chaotic aur first of all. than run a pamac install with all my apps. than some other small changes, copy home over and done. all in all 3 hours and its done ... - its painfull.

pop os is no option for me. i just love manjaro, arch and the aur and chaotic aur.

thanks for your help.
If you do get a solution please, I'd appreciate the info. I personally would like Manjaro, but the lack of dlss screws it all up.
leuchtrakete Sep 9, 2021 @ 11:00am 
i will try some things. in case of success i keep you informed.
Fahr Sep 9, 2021 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by leuchtrakete:
i will try some things. in case of success i keep you informed.
Im thinking it needs some extra package (possibly from AUR) to get the full DLSS functionality that is prebuilt into distros like Pop and Ubuntu.
Last edited by Fahr; Sep 9, 2021 @ 11:14am
leuchtrakete Sep 9, 2021 @ 4:41pm 
the manjaro forum is top!!! this is the answer:

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/nvidia-dlss-not-working/81959/3

launch the game with this startup parameter:

PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 %command%
Fahr Sep 9, 2021 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by leuchtrakete:
the manjaro forum is top!!! this is the answer:

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/nvidia-dlss-not-working/81959/3

launch the game with this startup parameter:

PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1 %command%
Tried this on Manjaro XFCE a minute ago.. not working
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