No Man's Sky

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Hari Seldon Nov 6, 2020 @ 10:49pm
No unsollicitated gifts please !
Being on board the Anomaly I regularly received products and or substances from nearby Travellers and yet I did not request anything having maxed up on units and having a ton of products in inventory, I really don't need what I receive... Conversely, I often broadcast a message offering some to those who woud need it and generally receive a complete silence in return ...:) Having a place where one could barter some products would be a help to some I think !
Last edited by Hari Seldon; Nov 6, 2020 @ 10:50pm
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WoogieMonsutā Nov 7, 2020 @ 3:15pm 
Given how dumb the default inventory in this game is, if you give somebody more than one STACK of anything, you're a douche. There's a difference between being generous, and using your wealth to dump on unsuspecting people.
Captain Brendig Nov 7, 2020 @ 3:41pm 
Originally posted by WoogieMonsutā:
Given how dumb the default inventory in this game is, if you give somebody more than one STACK of anything, you're a douche. There's a difference between being generous, and using your wealth to dump on unsuspecting people.
Then there those that gift five ferrite dust over to dupe. Not that I am against duping, just be cool about it.
Aurumworks Nov 7, 2020 @ 4:50pm 
ICED SCREAMS FOR EVERYONE !
刀持ち Nov 7, 2020 @ 4:50pm 
if you do not want the gift instead of moaning about it say a polite thanks and then bin it...
Die Hand Gottes Nov 7, 2020 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by Hari Seldon:
Being on board the Anomaly I regularly received products and or substances from nearby Travellers and yet I did not request anything having maxed up on units and having a ton of products in inventory, I really don't need what I receive... Conversely, I often broadcast a message offering some to those who woud need it and generally receive a complete silence in return ...:) Having a place where one could barter some products would be a help to some I think !

I'm of your opinion I don't want to be spammed either I have everything in abundance myself.
HG should have an option to not get spammed automatically or just a button whether you want to accept or not.
Die Hand Gottes Nov 7, 2020 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by 刀持ち / Old Gamer:
if you do not want the gift instead of moaning about it say a polite thanks and then bin it...

I only say material spammer to them.
I don't like that and I want that you can refuse this, because HG must be improved.
刀持ち Nov 7, 2020 @ 5:50pm 
Originally posted by Die Hand Gottes:
Originally posted by 刀持ち / Old Gamer:
if you do not want the gift instead of moaning about it say a polite thanks and then bin it...

I only say material spammer to them.
I don't like that and I want that you can refuse this, because HG must be improved.



I tend to agree with what your saying, and i think a lot ppl don't like it either, it is how you deal with it that matters.

when someone sends me something even if it is only 5 metal plates i could be nasty and create ill will, or instead be diplomatic and say thanks before quietly dumping it. or do what you do call them a spammer and walk away.

The issue is you can not assume the motives of the sending, off the cuff i can think of 3 reasons someone may send.

1. maybe it is someone who is sending something because they think they are helping,
2. newbies who get given stuff and think they should reciprocate the gesture in a small way.by giving something to someone else,
3. It could be the spammer.

Here is the rub how can you truly tell if its a spammer or just someone thinking they are being kind...

I found the players of this game tend to be decent fun filled ppl, i also think the spammer you mentioned are a minority ,and the rest are just misguided in their giving..

For this reason i do think a diplomatic approach is the best way to deal with situation like this....
Last edited by 刀持ち; Nov 7, 2020 @ 5:57pm
Die Hand Gottes Nov 7, 2020 @ 9:54pm 
The best thing is that HG includes an option
so you can stop it right away and then realize how they call them misguided and not everyone wants to get their inventory stuffed I call them spammers because they don't even ask if you want to do that I often just turn off the multiplayer not only because of that but also because of the copycats who wait for it when someone comes back to the nexus to give a mission and quickly get on it but didn't help out then I turn off the multiplayer anyway.
I also give away some really expensive products to friends but before I ask if they want something, because not everybody wants to do that and work it out by themselves which I can fully understand.

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ligoten Nov 7, 2020 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by WoogieMonsutā:
Given how dumb the default inventory in this game is, if you give somebody more than one STACK of anything, you're a douche. There's a difference between being generous, and using your wealth to dump on unsuspecting people.

Seeing as a mere six stasis devices would take two stacks, I think you are being too harsh.


Each time I've started a new character, I've been happy to get the occasional stasis device or stack of activated indium to take a little of the grinding edge off. Some people would rather go it alone. As I said before, I'm all for a setting to opt into or out of gifts.
Last edited by ligoten; Nov 7, 2020 @ 10:27pm
The Prisoner Nov 7, 2020 @ 10:40pm 
As a matter of NMS player etiquette; the easiest way to fix this is for donors to just go to one place in the Nexus, then announce through the chat that they have free stuff to give away. People can then show up and get free stuff. There is no need for HG to have to do a S/W fix for every player interaction in the game.
ligoten Nov 7, 2020 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by The Prisoner:
As a matter of NMS player etiquette; the easiest way to fix this is for donors to just go to one place in the Nexus, then announce through the chat that they have free stuff to give away. People can then show up and get free stuff. There is no need for HG to have to do a S/W fix for every player interaction in the game.

This works, but it feels like the problem lies not in the etiquette, but the one-sided nature of the transaction in the first place. Without a mechanism to stop unwanted gifts, there will always be people unwilling to follow or ignorant of unwritten rules.
Hari Seldon Nov 8, 2020 @ 3:07am 
WOW .. I did not expect to have my little message generating so many reactions ...Travellers are a reactive lot indeed ! See you ingame my fellow Travellers !
Originally posted by Hari Seldon:
Having a place where one could barter some products would be a help to some I think !
It could be called the 'Dupe Bar' and full of scum and villany....

Where you can exchange suspicious packages and bounties on players with death sentences in five star systems.... or dump ferrite dust onto strangers drinks. At least you'd know cheaters would hang out there and could avoid going inside.

'You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious'... of duping cheaters. I think an ol' Jedi once said that...

Actually a bar for atmosphere would add some ambience to the Nexus or a space station and make the worlds feel more lived in and less of a game mechanic to visit and move on.

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Most games do permit 'glitches' to exist because if a player plays so many games they might never return to a game if they can not find a means to catch up and stay around.

The flip side to tolerating dupers or glitches is that it helps the developers keep an audience. Duping is a bit of a PR exercise much like the Modding permitted. There is even mod designed entirely to cheat or duplicate anything called the NMS Save Game Editior. Maybe the current duping glitches just haven't been patched yet but if they will be I doubt they will be the last.

Most console computer games historically have always had cheat codes, especially the non monetised games. No Mans Sky duplication if it is 'designed' is a chore. A player can do it if they want but really there is no need to because the game works well without the need to and is a bit of a time waster when you could be out in the universe enjoying the exploration and game play.

Most dupers dumping stuff at the populated hubs like the Nexus I think mean well and often generous. And as someone mentioned above just delete any rubbish you don't want or put a bounty on their head....

Maybe a new Title like 'Glitch Duper' No Mans Sky Player, could be given to the player that lasts an hour or so. :)) Or maybe a silly helmet with two heads... But that would be a bit mean and not what NMS is about. The community is a nice bunch after all.

Personally I have very rarely received annoying trash from another player and just deleted anything not useful immediately. Trading with players I think works just fine. Freedom in the game is important and any trading restrictions limited to options chosen by the individual.
Last edited by Johnny in the Clouds; Nov 8, 2020 @ 6:35am
Die Hand Gottes Nov 8, 2020 @ 10:18am 
I don't like to repeat myself, but for me the best solution is to insert a butt and accept these gifts or not, or in the options to decide for yourself to even turn it off completely that you just don't get anymore
I mean the one with the mission squatters has solved HG now and that was even more annoying when a mission was blocked and he didn't do anything or did anything else.
Grimmslayer73 Nov 8, 2020 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Mio Rin:

There needs to be a proper trading interface that's only called up when both the initiator and recipient agree to a trade in a pop-up dialog, along with a global setting to auto-decline trades.


This would be the best solution. Unfortunately, in games like this, they would probably just do away with trading all together rather than taking the time to build a proper trade interface or they would make a half a$$ed interface that could be easily abused and never go back and fix it.
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Date Posted: Nov 6, 2020 @ 10:49pm
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