Capital Ship farming patched out?

[Yggdrasil Burnes]

So I've been trying to get an S-Class Capital Ship Freighter by gaming the 5th Warp Freighter, but not only have I not gotten a Capital Ship, the freighter isn't changing. At all. It's the same freighter with the same frigates in the same spot and positions every time. Tested on two separate 3 Star systems, and they both keep reproducing the same freighter for each system. I had visited both of these systems before, but that wasn't an issue before. The Freighter seed would change regardless. Am I doing something wrong here? Do I need to visit a fresh system for it to work now?

[WoogieMonsutā]

Originally posted by Yggdrasil Burnes:

So I've been trying to get an S-Class Capital Ship Freighter by gaming the 5th Warp Freighter, but not only have I not gotten a Capital Ship, the freighter isn't changing. At all. It's the same freighter with the same frigates in the same spot and positions every time. Tested on two separate 3 Star systems, and they both keep reproducing the same freighter for each system. I had visited both of these systems before, but that wasn't an issue before. The Freighter seed would change regardless. Am I doing something wrong here? Do I need to visit a fresh system for it to work now?

Not sure if I'm completely understanding what you attempted, but every system only has one or two freighters that will appear. It's random which one will appear IF there is more than one. Repeatedly re-jumping to a system will NOT make the game "cycle" through all the freighters, only the two that are available in that system.

[Yggdrasil Burnes]

So now each system only has one or two Freighter seeds period? I've been off for a while, starting a fresh run, so if that's the case, I should probably just find a portal address instead.

[Yggdrasil Burnes]

UPDATE: I figured out what I was doing wrong. The 5th warp Freighter is now rigged to never be a Capital Ship or above an A-Class, which isn't terrible actually. Good to see the game's making me work for it.

[WolfXRunner]

Originally posted by WoogieMonsutā:

Originally posted by Yggdrasil Burnes:

So I've been trying to get an S-Class Capital Ship Freighter by gaming the 5th Warp Freighter, but not only have I not gotten a Capital Ship, the freighter isn't changing. At all. It's the same freighter with the same frigates in the same spot and positions every time. Tested on two separate 3 Star systems, and they both keep reproducing the same freighter for each system. I had visited both of these systems before, but that wasn't an issue before. The Freighter seed would change regardless. Am I doing something wrong here? Do I need to visit a fresh system for it to work now?

Not sure if I'm completely understanding what you attempted, but every system only has one or two freighters that will appear. It's random which one will appear IF there is more than one. Repeatedly re-jumping to a system will NOT make the game "cycle" through all the freighters, only the two that are available in that system.

Na, what he was refering to was an old exploit of sorts. You would save RIGHT before doing your 5th warp, as that is the warp you can get your first freighter. It used to be that you could get any Class of frieghter and it wasnt decided until you actually warped there. So if you saved before and you got one you didnt like, you could just reload your save and try again. Could start with an S class for free that way.

[Dragorin]

Originally posted by WolfXRunner:

Originally posted by WoogieMonsutā:

Not sure if I'm completely understanding what you attempted, but every system only has one or two freighters that will appear. It's random which one will appear IF there is more than one. Repeatedly re-jumping to a system will NOT make the game "cycle" through all the freighters, only the two that are available in that system.

Na, what he was refering to was an old exploit of sorts. You would save RIGHT before doing your 5th warp, as that is the warp you can get your first freighter. It used to be that you could get any Class of frieghter and it wasnt decided until you actually warped there. So if you saved before and you got one you didnt like, you could just reload your save and try again. Could start with an S class for free that way.

You can still do this. But now you have to decline the first freighter fight mission.. and then you have to play for 3 more hours and five jumps before you'll get the new battle option. That's when you want to save the game right before warping into your 3 star economy system. Then you can reload until you get the class you want.

I got this one for free just recently on a new save I started for Origins.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2262784251

[WolfXRunner]

Originally posted by Dragorin:

Originally posted by WolfXRunner:

Na, what he was refering to was an old exploit of sorts. You would save RIGHT before doing your 5th warp, as that is the warp you can get your first freighter. It used to be that you could get any Class of frieghter and it wasnt decided until you actually warped there. So if you saved before and you got one you didnt like, you could just reload your save and try again. Could start with an S class for free that way.

You can still do this. But now you have to decline the first freighter fight mission.. and then you have to play for 3 more hours and five jumps before you'll get the new battle option. That's when you want to save the game right before warping into your 3 star economy system. Then you can reload until you get the class you want.

I got this one for free just recently on a new save I started for Origins.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2262784251

Hmm, I was always told that if you pass on the first one, you miss out on a free one lol. So I settled with an A class(was the first one that I saved) Damn, ah well.

[remid0d0s0]

Does it even MATTER if you get an S class freighter? Just get an A or whatever with a lot of slots and then if you feel like it begin the fairly tedious grind for more slots (or don't bother).

That's going to be a lot of reloads waiting for an S unless RNGeebus is on your side. Ugh. Count me out. I'm happy with my A.

Also, you need to get a freighter and move on with the game imo. I'm not aware of any way in which having a higher class freighter really advantages you aside from the likelihood of starting with more slots. You'll jump farther with ships, and your freighter will follow you around now.

[Ivara Ara]

It will take a few reloads but damn is the extra slots well worth it.

[Psyringe]

The extra slots are irrelevant in the long run because you can bring every freighter to 48 general / 21 tech slots by using bulkheads, regardless of S/A/B/C class (at least the capital freighters, I haven't checked the small ones). Of course you have the find the bulkheads first, but doing the respective tasks is still more fun than save-scumming for hours, imho.

There _are_ reasons to get an S class freighter though, since these have 25%-30% higher values for the base hyperdrive range, fuel efficiency, and fleet bonuses.

Those bonuses still don't justify save-scumming for me (I'm happy with my A class freighter), but if you want the best of the best, then yes, you need to hunt for an S-class freighter, as there is currently no way to upgrade your freighter's class afterwards.

[Dragorin]

Originally posted by remid0d0s0:

Does it even MATTER if you get an S class freighter? Just get an A or whatever with a lot of slots and then if you feel like it begin the fairly tedious grind for more slots (or don't bother).

That's going to be a lot of reloads waiting for an S unless RNGeebus is on your side. Ugh. Count me out. I'm happy with my A.

Also, you need to get a freighter and move on with the game imo. I'm not aware of any way in which having a higher class freighter really advantages you aside from the likelihood of starting with more slots. You'll jump farther with ships, and your freighter will follow you around now.

True, On my other two saves I have A class freighter so this time I wanted to see just how many reloads to get an S and it only took 36 reloads.. wasn't bad at all actually.

Really happy with the Fleet bonus on this one.

[TPU_KOTA]

So, if i saved my first freighter but took reward instead of the freighter, i broke my game and will never get free freighter?

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by TPU_KOTA:

So, if i saved my first freighter but took reward instead of the freighter, i broke my game and will never get free freighter?

No. The game will keep giving you opportunities to get free freighters, regardless of how you handled previous encounters and regardless of whether you already have a freighter or not.

Just be aware that you can only have one freighter at a time, so when you switch to a different one, you will lose whatever upgrades and buildings you put in the old one.

[remid0d0s0]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by TPU_KOTA:

So, if i saved my first freighter but took reward instead of the freighter, i broke my game and will never get free freighter?

No. The game will keep giving you opportunities to get free freighters, regardless of how you handled previous encounters and regardless of whether you already have a freighter or not.

Just be aware that you can only have one freighter at a time, so when you switch to a different one, you will lose whatever upgrades and buildings you put in the old one.

Yeah I got the pretty nice A freighter I have before the refiner nerf and I have something like 12 or 15 refiners in a line in there sooooooooo

probably not "trading up"

[Yggdrasil Burnes]

Originally posted by remid0d0s0:

Originally posted by Psyringe:

No. The game will keep giving you opportunities to get free freighters, regardless of how you handled previous encounters and regardless of whether you already have a freighter or not.

Just be aware that you can only have one freighter at a time, so when you switch to a different one, you will lose whatever upgrades and buildings you put in the old one.

Yeah I got the pretty nice A freighter I have before the refiner nerf and I have something like 12 or 15 refiners in a line in there sooooooooo

probably not "trading up"

First: Class wise, A > S only affects Jump Range, but Capital Class ships have increased slots right off the bat, and a better natural maximum slots than Regular Freighters. Capital Class being the Sentinel/Battleship/Dreadnought and Venator/Imperial/Resurgent designs, they are also just the best looking ones IMO.

Second: The Base Salvage module works for swapping Freighters, and gives a full refund unlike Base Computer deletions, so the only reasons not to upgrade is if you genuinely like your regular freighter, or simply don't want to spend time praying to RNGesus and in rebuilding, which are perfectly valid reasons. Your materials will be safe regardless.

[remid0d0s0]

Originally posted by Yggdrasil Burnes:

Originally posted by remid0d0s0:

Yeah I got the pretty nice A freighter I have before the refiner nerf and I have something like 12 or 15 refiners in a line in there sooooooooo

probably not "trading up"

First: Class wise, A > S only affects Jump Range, but Capital Class ships have increased slots right off the bat, and a better natural maximum slots than Regular Freighters. Capital Class being the Sentinel/Battleship/Dreadnought and Venator/Imperial/Resurgent designs, they are also just the best looking ones IMO.

Second: The Base Salvage module works for swapping Freighters, and gives a full refund unlike Base Computer deletions, so the only reasons not to upgrade is if you genuinely like your regular freighter, or simply don't want to spend time praying to RNGesus and in rebuilding, which are perfectly valid reasons. Your materials will be safe regardless.

Note: "Refiner nerf."

For some time you have been prevented from putting too many refiners close to one another, just like large refiners got slightly taller a year or so ago. Well, anyway, I have a lot of refiners too close to one another.