Black Hole travel distance

[dimmu1313]

Just wondering whether there's any "intelligence" behind where the game sends you when you travel through a black hole. When I first started back near launch, I remember reading that travelling through 10s of black holes will eventually get you to the center of the galaxy. However, my experience lately is that the black holes tend not to send me to a location that's much closer to the center than I'd get from a few max-range hyperspace jumps.

I was also always confused by the distance it reports that you've been sent, and with the addition of the in-game galaxy map it seems that the numbers make more sense. Clearly the galaxy is enormous, something like 5 million LY across if I'm scaling the image correctly based on how far it says I am from the center (which would make it about 50 times bigger than the Milky Way).

Anyway, the last few black holes I've gone through (i.e., the last I remember) would send me anywhere from several hundred thousand LY away to over a million LY away. The distance it sends you doesn't seem to matter for galactic center progression, because the net distance gained toward the center is only a few thousand light years. At my current max jump range of my ship of about 1250 light years, it seems to me that using black holes isn't worth the trouble of the sustained ship damage: either way, it will take *hundreds* of black holes or HS jumps to get there.

[WoogieMonsutā]

Every blackhole will always send you to the same place. Not every one points towards the center, but there are more pointing towards it than there are pointing away from it, so yes hitting a bunch of them will eventually move you closer, because math. No blackhole will take directly to the center, and when you are within a certain distance the chance of getting one that points away gets a lot higher.

Personally, I only use them for "the randomness" when I can't decide which way to go.

[jonnin]

there is a dissertation on it online but it boils down to this:
black holes don't take you in a straight line towards the center. They go sideways.
So even if you warp half a million units, it only pushes you a fraction of that towards the center.

I personally find it easiest to take your tricked out freighter (some 2500 or more per jump) and just head on in. Take a BH if you want, but I am not convinced that the time to warp an extra turn to get to another BH and repair time etc are that much better than just trucking straight on thru.

[Sario]

Maximum enhancement of the freighter will allow warp of 6,000 light years.

But it is much more practical to travel by portal to a planet near the center of the galaxy.

Once you learn the format of the portal address, you are free to travel anywhere in the galaxy.

[Happy Monkey]

The black hole will get you about 6000ly closer to the center. It will be in a completely different area of the galaxy, but 6000ly closer.

[Al_kemial]

keep your tech in tech slots and there will be no damage to these. An extra ship with good fight capacity in freighter only for black holes, you never know whats on the other side, dog fight or calm.
some black holes can lead you close to start point usefull for trade routes.

[AnoMorgan]

Portal will get you 100LY close on one glyph (on my last run at least it can be random) it makes blackholes pontless now, in 2016 I used blackholes to get to center by off chance got a bad blackhole sent me backwards was bit tricky but they did work to goto center it took for ever to do.

Portal address I used in permadeath was: https://galacticatlas.nomanssky.com/me/000000000000

[Sario]

Originally posted by AnoMorgan:

Portal will get you 100LY close on one glyph (on my last run at least it can be random) it makes blackholes pontless now, in 2016 I used blackholes to get to center by off chance got a bad blackhole sent me backwards was bit tricky but they did work to goto center it took for ever to do.

Portal address I used in permadeath was: https://galacticatlas.nomanssky.com/me/000000000000

If you want to be near the center for sure, this is the place to go.
Planet=1 System=001 Y=00 Z=008 X=000:
https://galacticatlas.nomanssky.com/me/100100008000

Any portal address within a radius of 3,000 light years from the center will result in an error; any of XYZ should be 8 or greater. The coordinates are 400 light years per 1, so in fact, it will be somewhere in the range of 3200 to 3600 light years.
Where System=001 resides in its 400 light-year cube depends on the results of procedural generation. In other words, it can be used in any galaxy.
Of course there are similar systems in negative coordinates, but it is very cumbersome because the conversion of two's complement is required.

If the glyphs are incomplete, this might be a good place to go, although it is a little farther away.
Planet=1 System=001 Y=00 Z=010 X=000:
https://galacticatlas.nomanssky.com/me/100100010000

Originally posted by davidb11:

We are aware, that portals make it impossible for you to warp or leave the system after you enter them right?
You have to always come back.

I know well, After v3.00, there are no restrictions on portal travel.
You don't need to come back to the portal anymore.

[Johnny in the Clouds]

You can now actually 'leap' almost to the centre by using Portals and guessing a glyph sequence for a planet close to the centre. There are many threads on the subject of travelling to the centre by the earlier method of following the galactic path marked on the galactic map or by using the Portal method, that once was restricted but is not any more.

I've linked some threads for you. If you are going to use Black Holes that is a lot of fun to do. There is now an extensive database of Black Hole destinations that can help you navigate them and choose your black holes to propel you in the direction you want. Black Hole exit systems are always constant but when you jump through a black hole you just don't know where you will end up unless you look at the logged destinations by other players. The database effectively is like knowing a Portal address.

If you do intend to use black holes without any assistance then you will gradually edge closer to the centre. Today though for speed use a Portal. Otherwise follow the marked route on the galactic map as you have discovered. The route will plot only so far because there are 18 Quintillion stars (which is a crazy number). Once you reach the star at the end of the marked route just repeat the process to continue warping.

The following information is reprinted here from this link for your convenience.

Here's some useful Black Hole information that I think answers your question and poses some new ones! :D

Some links to the threads too.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/4300317773579812988/?tscn=1587381730

They can expel a player hundreds of thousands of Light Years across the Galaxy in ANY direction. This is where the confusion can arise because you need to check the distance to the centre after each black hole journey. If you travel further away, reload the save and choose another black hole and check again. Every black hole now has a constant destination.

The Black Hole Suns website[docs.google.com] is a group that is tracking the paths of black holes. The calculator [j50n.github.io]can help cut a journey time/distance to the centre of the galaxy by up to two thirds. (Though you can now hop directly close to the centre by using the multiplayer Anomaly teleport).

You can also contribute black hole addresses[db.blackholesuns.com] and their corresponding exit addresses to improve the database for others too.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/1874001136339172639/?tscn=1585167881

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1889178588

The Black Hole Suns community is plotting a large database of Black Hole entry and exit points across Euclid and other galaxies. Entry and exit points are now constant, so after a reload of the game using the same black hole will not send you somewhere different.

The database is useful to finding the shortest route possible (in some cases cutting the journey time to by up to two thirds) by combination of warping and black hole travel to a specific system, like a community hub, player base or galaxy centre.

Black holes add a sense of anticipation to the game still but their use and 'magic' has been sadly eclipsed, with multi-play travel using the Anomaly Teleport and group play invitation to another player's location. They still have some value for the solo player.

The black hole suns database:

https://db.blackholesuns.com/

A previous thread on using black holes.

Black holes NEED to be awesome, terrifying, mysterious and surprising in the game. Maybe HG will re-think them. They need to be.

[Kobs]

Meh! for me black holes means trouble so I tend to stear clear of them.
If I'm doing something the chances are good that i'm going to have to work my way back to where I was so ....

[jonnin]

Originally posted by Kobs:

Meh! for me black holes means trouble so I tend to stear clear of them.
If I'm doing something the chances are good that i'm going to have to work my way back to where I was so ....

if you visit the station before you hole, its a station portal away to go back...
but the purpose of black holes is to kick off into the unknown and leave it all behind :)

[Kobs]

^^^ exactly why I tend to avoid them lol