No Man's Sky

No Man's Sky

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d[-_-]b Jul 27, 2018 @ 3:57pm
Cut the Grind PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
The grind in this is killing the fun.

Please cut all the requirements by at least 50%, including the damn synthesing.

People play games to escape real life not to spend hours grinding in a virtual world for an "achievement" which has no practical value. We play games for enjoyment, to escape the grind of the real world. The balance in this game is horribly horribly overly grinding and all the work on the beautiful visuals are destroyed by it.

ffs go and study some basics about UX.

Please...CUT THE GRIND. (Yes, I know there is creative mode but there is no need for the grind in normal mode to be so onorous. People are playing for fun ffs. Don't you get that?)

Edit: fwiw I am not a noob or a troll. I fully understand grind mechanics. I have 123 NMS hours since original launch and 160+ hours in ED. Don't talk to me like I don't understand grind or open world "make your own experience" games.
Last edited by d[-_-]b; Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:40pm
Originally posted by lbhgaming:
And therein is the problem .
Even in creative you need to grind . Even after NEXT , you still need to buy upgrades for suit at the spacestations (right now it is easier to find those on stations than on planets - I have seen TWO suit-upgrades on planets since NEXT came out) .
AND , you also still need to grind boxes or jobs , to get the secondary economy up .

To think , even after all this time , you still need money of two kinds , just to play in creative .

So people , please , don´t "facepalm" anything here . The creative version is not very
sandbox-ish .
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Miro Fox Jul 27, 2018 @ 3:58pm 
Creative Mode
Cheat Engine
Playing with friends
Exploring so you have money to buy thigns insted of mine and grind for it
Upgrading your gear so your grind is less
not buying Grindy games

some soluations.
d[-_-]b Jul 27, 2018 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by Saito Fox:
Creative Mode
Cheat Engine
Playing with friends
Exploring so you have money to buy thigns insted of mine and grind for it
Upgrading your gear so your grind is less
not buying Grindy games

some soluations.


All solutions to a bad core game design. The balance in this game is shockingly bad.

I'm not grinding for money. I found a freighter with 44 slots, so bought it for 0.
The number of broken slots is ridiculous to fix, with overly ridiculous requirements to grind to fix.

Found an exosuit pod. Had to fix it with three ridiculous grind mechanics.

It's terrible game design. Cut the amounts/time by 50% at least. Just terrible balance for people who play games for enjoyment.
Last edited by d[-_-]b; Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:02pm
soulguard Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:00pm 
Sorry. This game is about exploration and resource gathering. It's the heart of the game. Yes, you will need to grind a lot.
Arbadacarba Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:00pm 
CREATIVE MODE
Last edited by Arbadacarba; Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:01pm
Kanosei Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Captain Oscar:
Originally posted by Saito Fox:
Creative Mode
Cheat Engine
Playing with friends
Exploring so you have money to buy thigns insted of mine and grind for it
Upgrading your gear so your grind is less
not buying Grindy games

some soluations.


All solutions to a bad core game design. The balance in this game is shockingly bad.

All good solutions to a problem specific to you and not the game itself.
Tipperty Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:02pm 
I could agree, but cutting the grind will shorten the game life and they want people playing the game.

Like it or not, Steam active player base chart is part of marketing and potential future game contracts for developers. Cutting the games shelf life is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot
tkwoods Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:02pm 
I don't find the gring that bad... It should get better as you progress anyway.
d[-_-]b Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:02pm 
You people have no real life. ED is a grind free dream by comparison.
Moriibund Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by Captain Oscar:
bad core game design. The balance in this game is shockingly bad.

That's you opinion. A lot of people like it. If you don't, why the hell are you playing it?! Heck you could play the game without ever using your mining laser and never leaving the initial planet... What the hell are you choosing to grind for and then complaining about it?
Moriibund Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by Captain Oscar:
You people have no real life. ED is a grind free dream by comparison.

Then go play ED... smh
d[-_-]b Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by Tipperty:
I could agree, but cutting the grind will shorten the game life and they want people playing the game.

Like it or not, Steam active player base chart is part of marketing and potential future game contracts for developers. Cutting the games shelf life is pretty much shooting yourself in the foot


ahahah...that's my point exactly. It's a terribly implemented mechanic to extend the game artificially by imposing a horrible UX through a badly balanced grind mechanic.
LoneWolf007 Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:06pm 
The synthesizing and stuff I can see staying. If anything would change I'd say please please please, reduce thruster usage when taking off.
d[-_-]b Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by soulguard:
Sorry. This game is about exploration and resource gathering. It's the heart of the game. Yes, you will need to grind a lot.


I'm saying the balance is off. It's too grindy. Just ridiculous in the amounts and time needed.

Make it faster, make the loop tighter. It's just a painful grind at the moment, and injects a terribly negative element into an otherwise potentially great experience. Terrible design decisions.
TheOrigin Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:07pm 
I am ok with the current settings. Found the grind before NEXT worse.
Arbadacarba Jul 27, 2018 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by Captain Oscar:
Originally posted by soulguard:
Sorry. This game is about exploration and resource gathering. It's the heart of the game. Yes, you will need to grind a lot.


I'm saying the balance is off. It's too grindy. Just ridiculous in the amounts and time needed.

Make it faster, make the loop tighter. It's just a painful grind at the moment, and injects a terribly negative element into an otherwise potentially great experience. Terrible design decisions.
It’s so simple just play Creative mode if you don’t want to deal with grind that’s what its for.
/facepalm
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