How does multi/pvp work ?

[theMidknightPrince]

Someone who actually has it turned on please ?

[eMYNOCK]

i clearly hope such glorious idea like PVP in a exploring game will NEVER EVER work...

thank you very much...

regarding multiplayer in general.. i think either your steam friends can join you on purpose or, if active, randoms can randomly be assigned to your session if they decide to join a random explorer.

[Serath]

- The game can have a max of 16 "actual" players in your session. Other people you encounter randomly (the rest of the world playing, supposedly a rare occurence) will be encountered as floating spirits or something and interaction is limited. (i.e. what "multiplayer" was before the NEXT update. Guess it was testing phase this whole time huh?)

- "Join game" to join a random game as part of the 16 player slots.

- Whether you hit "play" or "join game," both are treated as a server for someone to join. If you simply want to play by yourself, lock your game by turning Network off in the settings once you start playing.

What is strange with this setting is that this doesn't actually kick out anyone who is in your session, rather it just prevents anyone else from coming in. You need to have the network "on" to actually see who is in your session or kick them. Don't ask me why HG decided to do it this way.

- Basically, to play with just your friends, start a game, invite your friends, kick out anyone you don't want who has joined randomly, and then lock your game. Even locked, I've had some of my friends able to join on me regardless; it uses Steamworks.

- Other players can be found using the compass. They show up on your HUD just like everything else. The game doesn't differientiate between friend and foe, as there is no "groups" to join.
Your basically "always" grouped with the other players. Everyone is simply "there," and you can always see each other on your radar and HUD. Co-op is simply a matter of just trying not to shoot each other. Having said that, it means PvP is enabled in the loosest of terms, because there is friendly fire at all times. If you want to start PvP, you just start shooting.

If you ever played free roam in GTAV, it's exactly like that.

[leldorado]

what happens when the players are in different systems in their saves? do they get pushed into the "host" system? and what happens when going back to the singleplayer? do they stay in the host's system?

[Wilder]

multiplayer does not work the way it should!, it was the big hype, they got everything else right except for the biggest part!

[Wilder]

fail 2.0, very disapointed

[Serath]

Originally posted by leldorado:

what happens when the players are in different systems in their saves? do they get pushed into the "host" system? and what happens when going back to the singleplayer? do they stay in the host's system?

I haven't gotten that far yet. During my session with two friends last night, I had already moved two systems from the beginning before they started playing.

The game asked them to make a character, obviously since they had none. The game didn't ask them what mode to choose, but obviously it was in "Normal" mode since my game was in Normal, and you can't play with others of a different difficulty.

They spawned in a random planet in my current system, though both of them on the same one. I was docked at a space station in space at the time. The game was having them go through their tutorial, but I was able to fly to them and actually see them and help them out.

But we never changed systems yet. More than likely they will appear right where they logged off if I'm in the same system, but what happens I change systems and then they log on, or if I change systems while they're on I have no idea.

As far as saves go, the save system seems to be the same as if you were playing by yourself. So the only thing I can think of is that when you "save" as a client, the game saves your progress. We confirmed this because one of my friends crashed. When he came back, only progress up to his last save was there.

As far as location goes, it's probably only saved on the host's computer, so if they were to play on someone else's game or their own game, it might be somewhere else, or wherever they were last in that game, while missions/inventory is probably universal. Supposedly when you join a game it will ask what character you want to join as.

[Serath]

Originally posted by Vanwilder ︻芫══----------:

multiplayer does not work the way it should!, it was the big hype, they got everything else right except for the biggest part!

Explain.

[Noxxii]

Originally posted by Serath:

- The game can have a max of 16 "actual" players in your session. Other people you encounter randomly (the rest of the world playing, supposedly a rare occurence) will be encountered as floating spirits or something and interaction is limited. (i.e. what "multiplayer" was before the NEXT update. Guess it was testing phase this whole time huh?)

- "Join game" to join a random game as part of the 16 player slots.

- Whether you hit "play" or "join game," both are treated as a server for someone to join. If you simply want to play by yourself, lock your game by turning Network off in the settings once you start playing.

What is strange with this setting is that this doesn't actually kick out anyone who is in your session, rather it just prevents anyone else from coming in. You need to have the network "on" to actually see who is in your session or kick them. Don't ask me why HG decided to do it this way.

- Basically, to play with just your friends, start a game, invite your friends, kick out anyone you don't want who has joined randomly, and then lock your game. Even locked, I've had some of my friends able to join on me regardless; it uses Steamworks.

- Other players can be found using the compass. They show up on your HUD just like everything else. The game doesn't differientiate between friend and foe, as there is no "groups" to join.
Your basically "always" grouped with the other players. Everyone is simply "there," and you can always see each other on your radar and HUD. Co-op is simply a matter of just trying not to shoot each other. Having said that, it means PvP is enabled in the loosest of terms, because there is friendly fire at all times. If you want to start PvP, you just start shooting.

If you ever played free roam in GTAV, it's exactly like that.

Random players that arent in your group are not floating orbs. Don't comment on something you havent seen or experienced.

They look like players, they can harm you and interact with the world as if they were in your group. When you "kick" them from the instance they will become a orb that will not be able to interact with you or the world around you.

The orb is basically a player in a different instance. I have only tried this stuff with a friend who lives in the same country. I have a portal on my base and used it to get to their base. (Joined their game, used their portal which saved it onto my portal, left their game and used my portal to get to them in solo). I could see and interact with them as if we were still in the group. The only difference is you can't do freighter missions and you dont see a icon above their head unless you are directly looking at them.

[☢︎Noob☢]

Originally posted by Serath:

- The game can have a max of 16 "actual" players in your session. Other people you encounter randomly (the rest of the world playing, supposedly a rare occurence) will be encountered as floating spirits or something and interaction is limited.

- "Join game" to join a random game as part of the 16 player slots.

- Whether you hit "play" or "join game," both are treated as a server for someone to join. If you simply want to play by yourself, lock your game by turning Network off in the settings once you start playing.

What is strange with this setting is that this doesn't actually kick out anyone who is in your session, rather it just prevents anyone else from coming in. You need to have the network "on" to actually see who is in your session or kick them. Don't ask me why HG decided to do it this way.

- Basically, to play with just your friends, start a game, invite your friends, kick out anyone you don't want who has joined randomly, and then lock your game.

- Other players can be found using the compass. They show up on your HUD just like everything else. The game doesn't differientiate between friend and foe, as there is no "groups" to join.
Your basically "always" grouped with the other players. Everyone is simply "there," and you can always see each other on your radar and HUD. Co-op is simply a matter of just trying not to shoot each other.

If you ever played free roam in GTAV, it's exactly like that.

If I don`t join anyone`s game nor have anyone joining me but happen to be on the same planet as someone else, will that person show up as a spirit orb or will I actually be able to see the person? And could I see 16+ random people at the same time or once there were more than 16 people the rest would show up as orbs?

[The Faceless Man]

Basically, they didn't cater to the whiny overgrown diaper-wearing mom's-basement dwelling neckbeards who have this really big hang up about being attacked by other players. They left it completely free play style where anything goes. A true raw sandbox.

One would think people expecting deeper immersion would welcome the unpredictable nature of other people. But that's why they are whiny overgrown diaper-wearing mom's-basement dwelling neckbeards in the first place. They do not know how to cope with the presence of dissimilar individuals.

[Noxxii]

Originally posted by Serath:

Originally posted by leldorado:

what happens when the players are in different systems in their saves? do they get pushed into the "host" system? and what happens when going back to the singleplayer? do they stay in the host's system?

I haven't gotten that far yet. During my session with two friends last night, I had already moved two systems from the beginning before they started playing.

They started with new characters. The game didn't ask them what mode to choose, but obviously it was in "Normal" mode since my game was in Normal, and you can't play with others of a different difficulty.

They spawned in a random planet in my current system, though both of them on the same one. I was docked at a space station in space at the time. The game was having them go through their tutorial, but I was able to fly to them and actually see them and help them out.

But we never changed systems yet. More than likely they will appear right where they logged off if I'm in the same system, but what happens I change systems and then they log on, or if I change systems while they're on I have no idea.

As far as saves go, the save system seems to be the same as if you were playing by yourself. So the only thing I can think of is that when you "save" as a client, the game saves your progress. We confirmed this because one of my friends crashed. When he came back, only progress up to his last save was there.

As far as location goes, it's probably only saved on the host's computer, so if they were to play on someone else's game or their own game, it might be somewhere else, or wherever they were last in that game, while missions/inventory is probably universal. Supposedly when you join a game it will ask what character you want to join as.

When in a group, players dont have limits to where they can go. When you join a game, you will always spawn in the hosts system. When you leave and go to your solo game you will be where you were last time you were in solo.

[Serath]

Originally posted by Captain Narwhal:

Random players that arent in your group are not floating orbs. Don't comment on something you havent seen or experienced.

I based off what I read from others, not first-hand. My game was locked after all. Hence why I said "or something," to give doubt. Chill.

[Noxxii]

Originally posted by PenguinHD:

Originally posted by Serath:

- The game can have a max of 16 "actual" players in your session. Other people you encounter randomly (the rest of the world playing, supposedly a rare occurence) will be encountered as floating spirits or something and interaction is limited.

- "Join game" to join a random game as part of the 16 player slots.

- Whether you hit "play" or "join game," both are treated as a server for someone to join. If you simply want to play by yourself, lock your game by turning Network off in the settings once you start playing.

What is strange with this setting is that this doesn't actually kick out anyone who is in your session, rather it just prevents anyone else from coming in. You need to have the network "on" to actually see who is in your session or kick them. Don't ask me why HG decided to do it this way.

- Basically, to play with just your friends, start a game, invite your friends, kick out anyone you don't want who has joined randomly, and then lock your game.

- Other players can be found using the compass. They show up on your HUD just like everything else. The game doesn't differientiate between friend and foe, as there is no "groups" to join.
Your basically "always" grouped with the other players. Everyone is simply "there," and you can always see each other on your radar and HUD. Co-op is simply a matter of just trying not to shoot each other.

If you ever played free roam in GTAV, it's exactly like that.

If I don`t join anyone`s game nor have anyone joining me but happen to be on the same planet as someone else, will that person show up as a spirit orb or will I actually be able to see the person? And could I see 16+ random people at the same time or once there were more than 16 people the rest would show up as orbs?

You will be able to see 16 random people, not orbs. They will be able to interact with you etc etc. unless you kick them from that instance, they will become orbs.

[Wilder]

there is no meaning to multiplayer in this game, you farm/build and talk along sid eone another that is all you do together. it needs serious attention in the multiplayer department, it is still basically a single player experience with a very nice improvement in graphics etc, that is it~!== nothing else

[Pathan Renard]

Originally posted by Lonerwurld:

Basically, they didn't cater to the whiny overgrown diaper-wearing mom's-basement dwelling neckbeards who have this really big hang up about being attacked by other players. They left it completely free play style where anything goes. A true raw sandbox.

One would think people expecting deeper immersion would welcome the unpredictable nature of other people. But that's why they are whiny overgrown diaper-wearing mom's-basement dwelling neckbeards in the first place. They do not know how to cope with the presence of dissimilar individuals.

But you can kick though