No Man's Sky

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darthokkata Jul 25, 2018 @ 3:45am
Why does this seem like they're laying the groundwork for microtransactions? Do they not realize how terrible an idea that is for a developer in their position?
Prior to this update, once you had an upgrade it was yours permanently and you could add it to any new weapon or ship you wanted rather than have upgrades as a single use item.

This seems like priming for microtransactions. Especially if you take into account the addition of hiding what upgrade you're getting in the shop until after you buy it. It's pretty close to loot box levels of bad and is a terrible idea. Hello Games doesn't have the reputation or enough player trust to support microtransactions in NMS.

The game has had too rocky a development history and if they are planning it I think they are vastly underestimating the backlash they'll get, especially since it's been a microtransaction free game for two years prior. The minute it happens is the moment I stop playing, uninstall the game, and forget Hello Games ever existed as a developer, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.

Adding microtransactions will almost definitely kill No Man's Sky and will instantly destroy all the good will they've managed to build up by continuing to develop the game and bringing it closer to what they originally promised.

If they want a game with microtransactions, they need to develop something new, not try and shove it into NMS. It's a lot easier to justify if microtransactions are there from the start. People understand they are buying a game that has them from the beginning.

They don't have the reputation or good faith from consumers to pull off something like that with this game. Putting them into something like NMS, especially considering the development history of the game and trust issues consumers already have with them as developers, is not something Hello Games can get away with.

They've done a lot to regain ground and get back consumer confidence since the launch. Adding microtransactions to a two year old game is the fastest way imagineable to burn those bridges and ruin their reputations again. If they do it, it's going to be much harder to regain that lost ground than it was the first time.

Also, even if it doesn't have anything to do with microtransactions, this new system forces players to spread things out more and provides fewer options for customization. It railroads players into being a jack of all trades rather than specializing, which is the opposite of what they should have done considering they added multiplayer and party based co-op.

Put simply, the new upgrade system kind of sucks. It's a step back from what was already in the game. Plus it seems shady, and like a precursor to something they shouldn't be going anywhere near right now considering the press they had with the launch of NMS and the reputation they had to claw their way back from.

They've done an admirable job so far, but haven't come back so far that they can pull off something like dumping microtransactions into NMS. The backlash will put them right back where they were a month after launch as the press and players rip them to shreds in any and all forms of media.

If they're thinking of doing it, they need to walk back from that ledge a bit and consider how hard it was digging themselves out of that hole they dug themselves into when NMS launched, because they're about to jump right back in if they try it at this point.

That's something to consider for the next game they develop if they're going to do it, not this one. NMS has had enough controversy and bad press already, getting greedy and trying to pull off microtransactions will absolutely kill this game and their reputations as developers for good this time.
Last edited by darthokkata; Jul 25, 2018 @ 3:48am
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Klokinator Jul 25, 2018 @ 3:47am 
I noticed a third new currency ingame. It set off several alarm bells. I hadn't thought of microtransactions, but that would 100% make me vilify this game forever.
Klokinator Jul 25, 2018 @ 3:50am 
Thanks, Lord Bingus. Good to know.
Wereboar Jul 25, 2018 @ 3:54am 
Hello Games already stated several times there won't be microtransactions anytime soon, what the third currency is about will be seen over the next few weeks, with their weekly challenge events.

Anytime soon, because - you never know, if they need to get more money for developing additional things, they might fall into the vanity items issue. Never say never. But they stated that microtransactions aren't a planned part of the game yet. So... rest and wait.
darthokkata Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by Lord Bingus:
http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/408973-no-mans-sky-live-service-no-microtransactions

I'm still skeptical, but hope that they aren't blowing smoke and laying the groundwork to try and get away with it off in a future update.

It makes me nervous because it seems like that might be the case. They technically wouldn't be lying right now necessarily if they eventually do because they aren't planning on adding them to the game in the near future updates.

He says the "upcoming" updates are free, not "we're never going to have microtransactions in NMS".

The system they just implemented is a little too close to being microtransaction ready, so I wouldn't say my concerns are unjustified and that I shouldn't be a little suspicious.

However, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until I see confirmation that they really are planning what I'm afraid they might be.

Like I said, putting them into a future release is one thing, putting them into NMS at any point in the future given the history of the game and where they are as developers right now is just plain stupid.


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Dangergoose Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by darthokkata:
Originally posted by Lord Bingus:
http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/408973-no-mans-sky-live-service-no-microtransactions

I'm still skeptical, but hope that they aren't blowing smoke and laying the groundwork to try and get away with it off in a future update.

It makes me nervous because it seems like that might be the case. They technically wouldn't be lying right now necessarily if they eventually do because they aren't planning on adding them to the game in the near future updates.

He says the "upcoming" updates are free, not "we're never going to have microtransactions in NMS".

The system they just implemented is a little too close to being microtransaction ready, so I wouldn't say my concerns are unjustified and that I shouldn't be a little suspicious.

However, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until I see confirmation that they really are planning what I'm afraid they might be.

Like I said, putting them into a future release is one thing, putting them into NMS at any point in the future given the history of the game and where they are as developers right now is just plain stupid.
I get what you're saying, but hopefully Hello Games are stupid enough to attempt microtransactions. With the current state of gaming, you just never know.

Speaking of the state of gaming, it's pretty bad the slightest scent of BS stands out like a sore thumb these days lol. Thanks Android/Iphone/F2P, you've really done wonders for the industry.
tabten Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:13am 
How many times have they explicitly said no micro transactions?
R2-D2 Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by tabten:
How many times have they explicitly said no micro transactions?

Good thing that everyone has full confidence in their straightforward honesty, then.
Chaunsey Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:18am 
they said they're not, the 3rd currency you gain by taking part in community type events so you can buy emotes and such with it.

however i dont see why you'd care if they sold cosmetic items that you can also win by playing the game to help fund further development.

your one purchase 2 years ago only goes so far, eventually they have to make new money.

if you dont want to buy stuff, microtransactions literally have no effect on you, except that you reap the benefits from them.
darthokkata Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:23am 
Originally posted by tabten:
How many times have they explicitly said no micro transactions?

They didn't really say "no microtransactions" they said "no microtransactions right now", which isn't the same thing.

They didn't even say they aren't planning them for some point in the future, just that there aren't going to be any in the near future with their planned updates for the "Next" patch.

That also isn't saying they are definitely going to add them in the future, just that some parts of this patch are suspiciously similar and seem like they might be laying the groundwork for a future update beyond "the near future" to add them in.

We have good reason to be suspicious that they might be considering it at some undisclosed point in the future.

Also, let's not forget that this developer isn't exactly known for being completely honest or transparent. If they were planning on adding microtransactions at some point, what makes you think they'd just come out and tell us with a full disclosure?

Liking the game they made is one thing. I like it too. Trusting these people to give us full disclosure about something like that given their past history is something else.

Forgive is not a synonym of forget.
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tabten Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:28am 
There won’t be any micro transactions, but even if there was, good luck to them.

If the game gets to the level where people want to contribute more by buying optional extras and this helps with the development of NMS that can be a good thing.
Jon Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:31am 
Originally posted by tabten:
There won’t be any micro transactions, but even if there was, good luck to them.

If the game gets to the level where people want to contribute more by buying optional extras and this helps with the development of NMS that can be a good thing.
Game is already grinfest, but yes lets make it even more grindy because that way we can help with developement. /s
Chaunsey Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by Chakravartin:
Originally posted by tabten:
There won’t be any micro transactions, but even if there was, good luck to them.

If the game gets to the level where people want to contribute more by buying optional extras and this helps with the development of NMS that can be a good thing.
Game is already grinfest, but yes lets make it even more grindy because that way we can help with developement. /s


how would it create grind? its not related to the gameplay.
KryptiiK Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:33am 
You are reaching so dam hard right now. Get over yourself. If they add microtransactions it will be for cosmetics and you know it. stop trying to bring about another flame war for your attention seeking needs. this isnt a mobile game where you will have to pay $1 to jump to a new system so stfu. if it doesnt affect you and how you gameplay is why does it matter???? hmmmm???? microtransactions are not a bad thing if done in a cosmetic item only way

oh and by the way you whole post is you giving an opinion and then playing victim while defending your own opinion. its just pathetic in every way. The new system isnt "suspicious" so once again stop your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lieing for attention and stop your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Also plenty of games have added in microtransactions after launch so again. stop your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
CaPY Jul 25, 2018 @ 4:34am 
I hope they will stick to just skins and cosmetic crap.
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