nVidia GTX 1060 6gb constantly crashes. would an AMD be better?

[clivewil]

as above, my MSI GTX 1060 6gb constantly dies under NMS - it almost always takes out the gfx driver and requires a restart, usually kills MSI Afterburner too which also needs to be quit/restarted, and has a few times given me a BSoD which needs a cold boot and a visit to the bios.

after much reading online, it seems the 1060's are trouble-prone - many are blaming nVidia's drivers, saying that the problems started at about the same time as the 2xxx series cards were released. (case in point: you now need to manually set 'prefer maximum performance' in the NV control panel, or the card might starve for power - this never was an issue with older drivers)

question: do you think i'd have more luck with an AMD GPU? i was looking at the RX 570 or 580, they have similar performance to the 1060 - and are a lot cheaper but use MUCH more power (e.g. 325w compared to the 1060's 125w) - i have a corsair 750w supply, so hopefully i can run an AMD without probs.

your thoughts?

[BurningTofu]

I have 1080Ti with my Ryzen 3600x. I've done stupid stuff like mods and reshade. So far I haven't crashed once. I have about 100 hours put into the game so far. Does about 100-144 fps on my end with my super ultrawide monitor with wonky 32:9 aspect ratio. When in doubt, reinstall your entire OS from fresh install. It does wonders and may solve issues that plagued your system. I do it every two years and I've saved myself from alot of headaches.

[WuTidi]

Hey I use the ASUS GTX1060 6GB with no issues

[James_T_Quirk]

Sorry this Win7 install is only 6 months old, and I have >700 hours in Game, even with the crashes, this is Year 47 in PC's for Me, so I WILL Deal with it, but I have NEVER ran a Mod, only Experimental Branch. I did use SaveGameEditor once to remove a glitched base, that's all, and after update yesterday, my save was corrupt, when I used SGE again to transfer save to a new save slot, it loaded, but back to 3 weeks ago when I removed the base, so making it hard to play, as it is the 2ND update that has affected me, 1st one just deleted all my discoveries, so worlds became "unowned", I was playing with Grandson, so hard to explain to Young Space Lords...

I am getting tired of sorting problems with this, tired of going backwards every other update ..

[7th7andwich]

Автор сообщения: idiots who don't know how computers work

"iT dOeSnT cRaSh oN MYY cOmPuTER".

Congrats. Lucky you.

[clivewil]

Автор сообщения: Rockin' Shawn

For me personally the 590 has been extremely reliable and fast for me. Only downside: it tends to be a bit loud, when under stress.

i installed the card today and i see what you mean now about the fans, i keep expecting to see an old lady with a vacuum cleaner walk past me

BUT on the plus side, it did load my last NMS save and ran the game - the very same one the 1060 crashed halfway through loading every damn time. win.

i found the AMD onscreen display to be a bit obtrusive so i'm still using Afterburner (which means i effectively have TWO apps controlling my fans. not sure who is overriding who, seeing as i gave them both similar curves)

[Mara Jadewind]

Автор сообщения: James_T_Quirk

Sorry this Win7 install is only 6 months old, and I have >700 hours in Game, even with the crashes, this is Year 47 in PC's for Me, so I WILL Deal with it, but I have NEVER ran a Mod, only Experimental Branch. I did use SaveGameEditor once to remove a glitched base, that's all, and after update yesterday, my save was corrupt, when I used SGE again to transfer save to a new save slot, it loaded, but back to 3 weeks ago when I removed the base, so making it hard to play, as it is the 2ND update that has affected me, 1st one just deleted all my discoveries, so worlds became "unowned", I was playing with Grandson, so hard to explain to Young Space Lords...

I am getting tired of sorting problems with this, tired of going backwards every other update ..

Dang ! I feel you, try manual save backup since you playing with your grandson and is tough to start over especially weeks ago...even 30 minutes gameplay crash without save is frustrating.

[japp_02]

Why not using the Windows restore function? It's the first one I would try with driver problems or similar.

[Loken]

Автор сообщения: japp_02

Why not using the Windows restore function? It's the first one I would try with driver problems or similar.

Yea driver updates going wrong are an age old problem and often overlooked. Iv'e had people tell me just updating ontop of the old one is fine in this day and age until its caused crashes and full resets when its overwritten badly.

ALWAYS download the new, uninstall the old one, reboot, THEN install the new just to be sure its done properly IMO. Letting the control panel do it has caused issue for me in the recent past. I hate to say it but my guess is the 1060 in the OP is most probably fine.

Every time ive had a graphics card on its way out for me there has been tell tale signs like graphical glitches in multiple games. Yes it might be some rare case where there are no signs apart from a full crash. Never experienced anything like it myself though and just 1 game causing something like this is strange indeed which to me doesnt point to a card problem but software somewhere along the line be it the game itself or the driver.

[MinenSpecht]

MSI 1060 6GB with no issues here. If OP is usung MSI Afterburner.. what do the logs say?

Maybe its just full of dust and overheats?

What Motherboard and what CPU are you using?

[Mara Jadewind]

Автор сообщения: MinenSpecht

MSI 1060 6GB with no issues here. If OP is usung MSI Afterburner.. what do the logs say?

Maybe its just full of dust and overheats?

What Motherboard and what CPU are you using?

it's the game, it random cherry pick some of us....when I get NMS 1st back to few month ago the optimization was so horrible....the fps literally roller coasting non stop from 15-60fps and I can't even hardly hit 60 fps with lowest graphic setting....lag and stutter horribly.

After try many fix, I give up....never touch the game....until this Autumn with synthesis update I decided to login and check the game...suddenly I able to run it smooth so I crank up my graphic option on Med/High setting still can run without much issue....I has not update any driver or window files....and is now fiixed by itself...definitely is the game.

[japp_02]

Just a reminder for nVidia GPU users: If you install a (new) driver, then chose NOT to install NVidia Experience, deactivate its option in the install procedure. You'll save a lot of potential problems and for sure you will free some unnecessary services / background processes.

[clivewil]

Автор сообщения: MinenSpecht

MSI 1060 6GB with no issues here. If OP is usung MSI Afterburner.. what do the logs say?
Maybe its just full of dust and overheats?
What Motherboard and what CPU are you using?

nothing helpful in the logs unfortunately, when it crashed it probably killed the monitoring too

definitely not dust and (not sure if mentioned in this thread or another) when it ran NMS, it ran cooler than many other games like Watch Dogs II and Far Cry 5+New Dawn which were not crash prone, even though they ran up to 10 degrees hotter.

mobo is a sabertooth X79, cpu is an i7 4820k - yes, both are relatively old but a new mobo+cpu means a new OS too, which means Win10 which imo is a downgrade and just asking for more trouble - i'll try to keep Win7 running as long as i can


as far as the RX 590 goes, it is definitely better for NMS but has the 'black screen' issue (cue UEFI vs. Legacy BIOS debate) - it will start but it will not REstart unless i jab the reset button a few times.

as i was about to buy an RX 580 i noticed a cyber monday deal of the 590 for only $10 more - what i did NOT notice is that the 590 is HDMI + DP only whereas the 580 had DVI which is what my monitor is - so i'm using an HDMI to DVI cable which may or may not be part of the problem.

i need to look into it more and fudge some settings, do some tests, see what's what...

[Scheneighnay]

Автор сообщения: clivewil

Автор сообщения: MinenSpecht

MSI 1060 6GB with no issues here. If OP is usung MSI Afterburner.. what do the logs say?
Maybe its just full of dust and overheats?
What Motherboard and what CPU are you using?

nothing helpful in the logs unfortunately, when it crashed it probably killed the monitoring too

definitely not dust and (not sure if mentioned in this thread or another) when it ran NMS, it ran cooler than many other games like Watch Dogs II and Far Cry 5+New Dawn which were not crash prone, even though they ran up to 10 degrees hotter.

mobo is a sabertooth X79, cpu is an i7 4820k - yes, both are relatively old but a new mobo+cpu means a new OS too, which means Win10 which imo is a downgrade and just asking for more trouble - i'll try to keep Win7 running as long as i can


as far as the RX 590 goes, it is definitely better for NMS but has the 'black screen' issue (cue UEFI vs. Legacy BIOS debate) - it will start but it will not REstart unless i jab the reset button a few times.

as i was about to buy an RX 580 i noticed a cyber monday deal of the 590 for only $10 more - what i did NOT notice is that the 590 is HDMI + DP only whereas the 580 had DVI which is what my monitor is - so i'm using an HDMI to DVI cable which may or may not be part of the problem.

i need to look into it more and fudge some settings, do some tests, see what's what...

5500 XT AIBs are a thing now.

What kind of crashes are you getting anyway? My Vega 64 would randomly BSoD, and would fail POST half of the time, so I figured that the BSoDs were just a part of it failing. Got a 1650S and the POST issue was gone, but the BSoD was still there.
So I installed a new BIOS update, which caused more issues, then I reinstalled the last BIOS version that I had and I haven't bluescreened since.

[clivewil]

Автор сообщения: Scheneighnay

What kind of crashes are you getting anyway?

the ones i WAS getting - with the 1060 - were BSoDs that would corrupt the realtime clock in the mobo bios, requiring me to remove the battery then reinsert it and input my settings again, so you can understand why i was so concerned - note it was only NMS that did this, and in all my years of computing i had never heard of a gfx crash so deep that was able to kill the realtime clock in a PC's bios - but mine did, several times. the clock would either lose about 20 minutes every hour, or stop completely

NOW i am getting a black screen/failure to detect/no signal at monitor - randomly. i'd guess about 1 time in 4 it starts successfully; the other times i need to press the reset button until i see a successful POST on the monitor.

the fact that it works sometimes means there should be a way to make it work every time, i just need to figure out what. bios settings? better cable? maybe try my old 60Hz monitor? no idea yet.

[Scheneighnay]

Автор сообщения: clivewil

Автор сообщения: Scheneighnay

What kind of crashes are you getting anyway?

the ones i WAS getting - with the 1060 - were BSoDs that would corrupt the realtime clock in the mobo bios, requiring me to remove the battery then reinsert it and input my settings again, so you can understand why i was so concerned - note it was only NMS that did this, and in all my years of computing i had never heard of a gfx crash so deep that was able to kill the realtime clock in a PC's bios - but mine did, several times. the clock would either lose about 20 minutes every hour, or stop completely

NOW i am getting a black screen/failure to detect/no signal at monitor - randomly. i'd guess about 1 time in 4 it starts successfully; the other times i need to press the reset button until i see a successful POST on the monitor.

the fact that it works sometimes means there should be a way to make it work every time, i just need to figure out what. bios settings? better cable? maybe try my old 60Hz monitor? no idea yet.

switch to your iGPU for a while and see if the random black screen still happens. Perks to having one.

Definitely never heard of an issue that bad either. The worst I had was when, playing War Thunder, I would not only disconnect but it would shut down my router altogether.