nVidia GTX 1060 6gb constantly crashes. would an AMD be better?

[clivewil]

as above, my MSI GTX 1060 6gb constantly dies under NMS - it almost always takes out the gfx driver and requires a restart, usually kills MSI Afterburner too which also needs to be quit/restarted, and has a few times given me a BSoD which needs a cold boot and a visit to the bios.

after much reading online, it seems the 1060's are trouble-prone - many are blaming nVidia's drivers, saying that the problems started at about the same time as the 2xxx series cards were released. (case in point: you now need to manually set 'prefer maximum performance' in the NV control panel, or the card might starve for power - this never was an issue with older drivers)

question: do you think i'd have more luck with an AMD GPU? i was looking at the RX 570 or 580, they have similar performance to the 1060 - and are a lot cheaper but use MUCH more power (e.g. 325w compared to the 1060's 125w) - i have a corsair 750w supply, so hopefully i can run an AMD without probs.

your thoughts?

[clivewil]

Originally posted by raincloud40:

I'm kinda finding it weird you're having problems with a 1060. Possibly a defective/damaged card you have.

One comp I have is running this on a pathetic 1030 2gb on Nvidia's latest driver with no problem other than its a terrible budget card with low fps.

well it seems to run other games ok, the problem is really just with NMS.

my old GTX 780 used to run NMS quite well until Far Cry 5 made it go bang and i got the 1060

[Rockin' Shawn]

I have and AMD RX 590 8GB - on ultra settings I'm usually somewhere in the range of 45 - 60 fps (1080p). On my TV (1360x768) I'm somewhere between 50 and 65 fps.
Don't have an NVidia card though, so I cannot make a direct comparison.

[clivewil]

Originally posted by raincloud40:

There you go, No Man's Sky.... the ulitmate stress test. I doesn't seem like its optimized too well.

when it runs at all, it runs rather cool and smooth. compared to e.g. watch dogs 2 or far cry 5/new dawn which run quite hot but still never crash.

Originally posted by Rockin' Shawn:

I have and AMD RX 590 8GB - on ultra settings I'm usually somewhere in the range of 45 - 60 fps (1080p). On my TV (1360x768) I'm somewhere between 50 and 65 fps.
Don't have an NVidia card though, so I cannot make a direct comparison.

as long as it runs fine for you, that's all the recommendation i need - thanks!

out of interest, what size is your power supply?

[Leto]

RX 590 is like 10% above the 1060 in 1080p.
So dont waste your money for 10% more perfomance.

Also 1060 should do at least 50 fps with ultra settings if your cpu isnt limiting the game.
Get this https://geeks3d.com/furmark/ and do a burn in test to see if your GPU is broken.
Also make sure you dont use Vulkan API cause geforce cards perform better with opengl.

[Rockin' Shawn]

Originally posted by Leto:

RX 590 is like 10% above the 1060 in 1080p.
So dont waste your money for 10% more perfomance.

Also 1060 should do at least 50 fps with ultra settings if your cpu isnt limiting the game.
Get this https://geeks3d.com/furmark/ and do a burn in test to see if your GPU is broken.
Also make sure you dont use Vulkan API cause geforce cards perform better with opengl.

That's the problem: No Man's Sky ditched OpenGL with Beyond and NVidia cards seem to have a tendency to perform a little worse with Vulkan than AMD cards usually do.

@clivewil
My power supply is at 650W.

[clivewil]

Originally posted by Leto:

RX 590 is like 10% above the 1060 in 1080p.
So dont waste your money for 10% more perfomance.

i'm trying to find a way to stop NMS crashing. changing different drivers doesn't do it so now i'm looking at changing cards.

Originally posted by Rockin' Shawn:

@clivewil
My power supply is at 650W.

good, so my 750w should handle things ok then. thanks.

[Rockin' Shawn]

Originally posted by clivewil:

Originally posted by Leto:

RX 590 is like 10% above the 1060 in 1080p.
So dont waste your money for 10% more perfomance.

i'm trying to find a way to stop NMS crashing. changing different drivers doesn't do it so now i'm looking at changing cards.

Originally posted by Rockin' Shawn:

@clivewil
My power supply is at 650W.

good, so my 750w should handle things ok then. thanks.

Anytime :)
And regarding saving money because of 10% performance boost...the 8GB RTX 590 is around the same price a GTX 1060 6GB is at, so there's that ;)
For me personally the 590 has been extremely reliable and fast for me. Only downside: it tends to be a bit loud, when under stress.

[clivewil]

well for better or worse, i have ordered an RX 590 8gb so let's see if it's any less crashy than the 1060... fingers crossed.

[louismacdonald]

Like the other user who just posted about bad framerate... make sure all your settings are optimised correctly. NMS default is set for super high-end, some of the features (motion blur) aren't handled well by older cards. I had a similar problem with a 1070ti before adjusting things (you can also edit the MXML file to allocate more CPU threads to the game, if that's also an issue)

[Mara Jadewind]

I think some issue overlay somewhere in the game.....when.I first got the game few months ago....it was horrendouslly bad experience...my 1060 6gb can't even run at all low graphic setting without problem....the fps dropping everywhere badly...stuttering lag everywhere...I give up and Quit on this piece of sh!t!

Then back to few day ago...I decided to try it again.....now it run not bad... Fps still roller coasting but at least I can setup my graphic to Med/High and play pretty stable comapre the 1st time.....I had no idea what update or optimization they had done but am sure glad.

[clivewil]

Originally posted by louismacdonald:

Like the other user who just posted about bad framerate... make sure all your settings are optimised correctly. NMS default is set for super high-end, some of the features (motion blur) aren't handled well by older cards. I had a similar problem with a 1070ti before adjusting things (you can also edit the MXML file to allocate more CPU threads to the game, if that's also an issue)

cool info thanks, i had a lot of gfx stuff turned down already anyway - most things were set to Standard except for max draw distance, and with AA and motion blur set to Off.

it didn't make any difference to fixing my crashes, but i never got around to putting them back to their original settings, so they can stay where they are for now

Originally posted by Mara Jadewind:

but at least I can setup my graphic to Med/High and play pretty stable comapre the 1st time.....

my problem was that when it crashed, it often took out the bios too requiring me to remove the battery then refit it. i have never heard of a game crashing a bios's realtime clock before, but it happened again yesterday just to show it wasn't my imagination.

and it's only NMS that does this - my other games are fine 99% of the time, but any of their crashes are just plain vanilla CTDs. - only NMS gives it a total heart attack requiring surgery to fix

[louismacdonald]

In that case you've already isolated the problem to a fault with your card - try benchmark apps, or take it to a hardware place where they can test it against other systems.

[japp_02]

I run with a GTX 960 4GB, never had any problems, not before Vulkan, not with Vulkan, and I don't have the latest drivers which I put only on if really necessary. But the truth is: I only use my rig for demanding games and I don't install anything else.
So my guess is: you have or a hardware or software problem. The latest is more likely if your problem doesn't happen with other games or apps, and if it's that it's time to reinstall your Windows OS, that's the simplest solution and will give you a clean system afterwards. A lot of people are reluctant to do this, but this is actually the best medecine. There are several good pages on the net about how to do this fast and accurately for backing up things.

[clivewil]

Originally posted by louismacdonald:

In that case you've already isolated the problem to a fault with your card - try benchmark apps, or take it to a hardware place where they can test it against other systems.

not sure if 'isolated' is the correct term - i have figured it's either the gfx card itself, OR its interface on my mobo (dying x16 PCIe slot or controller) - but i am HOPING it's the card because there's no way i'm going to be able to replace the mobo due to age/obsolescence

if it's the mobo dying, then even the bare minimum fix means new mobo, CPU and OS... i just can't afford that right now.

[Mara Jadewind]

Originally posted by clivewil:

Originally posted by louismacdonald:

In that case you've already isolated the problem to a fault with your card - try benchmark apps, or take it to a hardware place where they can test it against other systems.

not sure if 'isolated' is the correct term - i have figured it's either the gfx card itself, OR its interface on my mobo (dying x16 PCIe slot or controller) - but i am HOPING it's the card because there's no way i'm going to be able to replace the mobo due to age/obsolescence

if it's the mobo dying, then even the bare minimum fix means new mobo, CPU and OS... i just can't afford that right now.

Don't think is hardware issue since it can run other game fine but only NMS. My card can run other pretty well until my encounter with NMS but my friend was playing with GTX1050 and he run way smoother and better than me. He was like dafuq you're having FPS and graphic issue but not him.

I've no idea whether reinstall will help,you can try that option....but I stopped playing NMS for months...and just started to play again few day ago when Autumn Sales begin...and it somehow run better...without me doing anything except tune up my graphic setting.

You could try OC your 1060 for some extra FPS see whether it could help..