A few questions about predators

[k_o]

I've run into a few animals that seem like they should be aggressive predators (for example a big T-Rex type animal with "Cold-Blooded" behaviour that eats "Anything"), yet they haven't attacked me, even after spending considerable time on the planet and getting close to them.

I have even seen an animal attack and kill others, while not being aggressive to me - according to the wiki, this should not be possible, either predators attack both player and other animals, or ONLY the player, no option for only preying on animals. But I know the wiki has a lot off incorrect/outdated information.

Does anyone know if this behaviour is intended or not? I am just worried that if it happens to be the result of a bug, it might get fixed and I'll end up dealing with aggressive animals on planets where I'm expecting none.

Also, how likely is it to find a planet with no aggressive predators? I'm looking for a specific type of planet (so I can't just settle on an airless/exotic planet which of course are guaranteed to have none), and ideally I'd like to find one that has no hostile fauna. So far it's been a struggle to locate one, and I am starting to doubt if it is even possible.

There seem to be very few planets at all that have no predators, if we're counting the ones that seem like they should be aggressive but are possibly bugged. Admittedly, I haven't found a whole lot of planets of that type yet, but I'd like to know if I'm just wasting my time.

[korfan]

Some animals are classified as predators but they won't attack you unless provoked. If you have a mission to kill predators you can still drop them and they count, at least they do in my game.

The only way to know if a planet has no predators is to scan all the fauna. I did that on a base-candidate world and it turned out well. One of my other bases is on a planet that the animals (and sentinels) are so rare it doesn't matter.

[Alkpaz]

Very few planets do contain no preds, I've found more planets with hostile sentinels + fauna than I have truly peaceful planets (without storms or haz environments)

[Flexible Knot]

My experience has been different, as about 1/2 of the planets with animal life that I find, contain no predators.

[k_o]

I wonder if the prevalence of predators is also related to biome/weather? As I'm specifically looking for an extreme cold planet (extreme because I want to farm storm crystals, cold because I think they look nice).

[Johnny in the Clouds]

I've no idea how the developers program the behaviour of creatures but in my experience they've improved with every update and the result is they behaviour in a very unpredictable way to make each planet experience different.

The most recent planet I found during the current community event has very aggressive creatures. Tremendous fun trying to sneak past them or not attract them while digging for salvage. I'd not been on a very aggressive planet for some time now. It's also quite a beautiful planet.

Very aggressive
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1614946019

On the other hand my home planet (a tranquil type biome) is the complete opposite nothing attacks me, yet one predator creature which plods around my property grounds chases after some little creatures every now and then.

'Friendly' predator
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1626704766

Some of the very very big creatures don't often attack unless provoked, neither do they seem to be able to be fed. Of the larger ones I have fed, they are docile and leave huge coprite droppings lol I've met fish and leech things that attack but no birds, though recently they have begun a swooping down to ground behaviour, so my guess is it is only a matter of time before perhaps we may be chased from above at some point.

I think what I am trying to say is that there are billions and billions of planet possibilities out there for us to encounter. Having hopped across several galaxies playing the game I have made a lot of discoveries and continually surprised by the behaviours. I wouldn't wish to predict how any creature behaves based on their description as they are I expect programmed to behave in original, unpredictable ways and that probably includes deviation from their 'default' origins.

Agrressive creature
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1626153978

Of course being a game if the developers wish the player to follow a story line mission they may have to follow a more predictable outcome. I would likely bet that the behaviour characteristics of creatures have several overlapping sets of random rule outcomes.

I'm certain what you're looking for is out there among the billions of possibilities. As you play and discover you'll likely come across more unexpected behaviours. Which I think is as it should be and what I presume a mathematical procedural game is trying to achieve, a more natural world, albeit within the limits of a game engine.

Real life animals lead a life of their own, just ask my cat.,

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1202743534

[Aachen]

If you could eat "anything," would that imply you must eat everything, all the time?

I can eat a lot of things; thanks to an accident in time and geography, there'a vast assortment which are motionless. I tend toward those, rather than the more mobile (and especially painful) choices.

[Mr. Bufferlow]

Originally posted by Flexible Knot:

My experience has been different, as about 1/2 of the planets with animal life that I find, contain no predators.

I agree that it seems to be pretty random on predators.

Hit a planet recently where 6 of the 8 fauna I discovered were all blood thirsty little heathens. So many red claws circling my safety cactus I couldn't count them. Good place to be from.

My home planet has no hostile creatures.

They can be unpredictable. Mine too close and even the friendly ones get angry.

[Alkpaz]

Have yet to experience a Hell planet.. extreme weather with almost constant storms + hostile sentinals + nearly all preds. I think I would literally "give up" on a planet like that. I'll probably run into one, watch it happen. :P

[k_o]

Speak of the devil - seem to have finally found the planet I was looking for. There is one creature whom I've seen hunting other animals, but even after standing close to it for a while it did not attack me. But aside from that, all the other land-dwelling animals seem to be herbivores. It does come with two major downsides - ugly orange water, and it's in an uncharted system, so no buildings to explore. But it'll do for now.

Thanks for the replies everyone - looks like there is a bit more complexity to animal behaviour in the game than has been documented in the wiki.

[k_o]

Originally posted by Aachen:

If you could eat "anything," would that imply you must eat everything, all the time?

I can eat a lot of things; thanks to an accident in time and geography, there'a vast assortment which are motionless. I tend toward those, rather than the more mobile (and especially painful) choices.

Considering the animals that seem to attack me most often are ones with a diet of "Eggs" or "Faeces", I really have to wonder what the Anomaly is made of...

[Aachen]

Originally posted by k_o:

Considering the animals that seem to attack me most often are ones with a diet of "Eggs" or "Faeces", I really have to wonder what the Anomaly is made of...

O, the images ....

[NMSPlayer]

Originally posted by Aachen:

If you could eat "anything," would that imply you must eat everything, all the time?

I can eat a lot of things; thanks to an accident in time and geography, there'a vast assortment which are motionless. I tend toward those, rather than the more mobile (and especially painful) choices.

Bahahahahaha

[NMSPlayer]

I read all these other comments and then forgot the OP, I think maybe this might help: (im still laughing Aachen here, sorry)

1 INSTALL a Blaze Javelin -- go - do it NOW, I'll wait. (for blaze javelin, hold triggar down for more damage -- sentinels can be one shotted this way :P )

2 I have seen video of a predator of predators. It was Ivy Mike and he was being chased by a pack of predators and found a huge predator in a meadow - that huge one never attacked him and the other predators stayed far away from it. (game design here is genius :D )

3 INSTALL a Pulse Spitter :D It's a machine gun - do I need to say anything else.

4 MOST IMPORTANT -- MOST planets with bouncies, blobbies do not have predators :) Sometimes they do, but its rare :)

Back to laughing LMFAO

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Yeah, dont try to dig too deep into the logic behind all this, remember that this is procedurally generated....

Myself I 've often run into absurdities like giant monster creatures that were harmless and running away from me, while I also met tiny creatures, that I could just smash by walking over them without even noticing, chase me recklessly...
Or even more stupid, planets with only agressive predators but none of them were attacking each others, they were all only interested in eating me... makes you wonder what they're supposed to eat when there's no players on the planet...especially on a newly discovered planet.

Imo the only appropriate reaction to this is to ROTFL
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1613140907

[BHarm]

For what it is worth, I think part of the problem is old saves. Since they upped the predators, I have older saves where I never get attacked. Started a new save and I am attacked all the time, nearly everywhere. Along with all the other randomness of the game, I think it matters on which update you started your save.