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Krovven Aug 30, 2018 @ 7:55pm
8 hour to 28 hour expeditions?
Just logged on for first time after the update. First thing I did was go to start expeditions and this ia the garbage I see. 8 hour to 28 hour expeditions? This is just plain idiotic.

Congrats on making me want to play LESS.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1498585729
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Originally posted by Krovven:
Just logged on for first time after the update. First thing I did was go to start expeditions and this ia the garbage I see. 8 hour to 28 hour expeditions? This is just plain idiotic.

Congrats on making me want to play LESS.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1498585729

The rewards have been scaled up and expedition time runs even while you're not in the game so you can log off and just check back later. I got about 2 or 4 million credits (including selling off recovered items) from one mission the other day and it was a 2 or 3 star expedition.
Last edited by High Density Hamster; Aug 30, 2018 @ 7:59pm
FDru Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:00pm 
So what's the problem? Do you have a fear of big numbers of hours? lol
Krovven Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:02pm 
28 hour expedition wants 800 tons of fuel with an S class Support frigate...950 without. What are these idiot devs smoking?
soulguard Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:04pm 
Expeditions have always been, to me, a set it and forget it option. Next time i log in, i cash out send them again.
Dragova Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:04pm 
Originally posted by Krovven:
28 hour expedition wants 800 tons of fuel with an S class Support frigate...950 without. What are these idiot devs smoking?

That is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lot of fuel, how many ships did you launch?
Krovven Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:04pm 
Originally posted by FDru:
So what's the problem? Do you have a fear of big numbers of hours? lol

Ya, I liked having my expeditions completing in a single play session. Also, if you get a bad list of expeditions that don't offer a variety of missions, you have frigates doing nothing.
Krovven Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Týr:
Originally posted by Krovven:
28 hour expedition wants 800 tons of fuel with an S class Support frigate...950 without. What are these idiot devs smoking?

That is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lot of fuel, how many ships did you launch?

I didn't launch it because I don't have the fuel now after sending 2 other expedtions which were about 400 fuel each. But 5 frigates, all but one being S class (with Support frigate) was 800 fuel. The amount of fuel you need to keep in freighter inventory to be able to do the expedtions daily is ridiculous.

To the others that want to criticize me for not liking this...I have a life, 2 kids. The more grindy they make the game, the less I want to play. I already have friends that like the game but they stopped playing because they dont want to spend their hours farming materials for this type of crap.
Last edited by Krovven; Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:12pm
Originally posted by Krovven:
Originally posted by Týr:

That is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lot of fuel, how many ships did you launch?

I didn't launch it because I don't have the fuel now after sending 2 other expedtions which were about 400 fuel each. But 5 frigates, all but one being S class (with Support frigate) was 800 fuel.

To the others that want to criticize me for not liking this...I have a life, 2 kids. The more grindy they make the game, the less I want to play. I already have friends that like the game but they stopped playing because they dont want to spend their hours farming materials for this type of crap.

I sympathize with your situation. Maybe buying materials instead of farming them would make it easier for you? I've had no trouble making stacks of 200 ton Frigate Fuel by bulk purchasing what I can. The credits from expeditions and things I find on my explorations more than make up for the market costs.
Last edited by High Density Hamster; Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:13pm
Krovven Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:15pm 
Originally posted by Rabid Snail:
Originally posted by Krovven:

I didn't launch it because I don't have the fuel now after sending 2 other expedtions which were about 400 fuel each. But 5 frigates, all but one being S class (with Support frigate) was 800 fuel.

To the others that want to criticize me for not liking this...I have a life, 2 kids. The more grindy they make the game, the less I want to play. I already have friends that like the game but they stopped playing because they dont want to spend their hours farming materials for this type of crap.

I sympathize with your situation. Maybe buying materials instead of farming them would make it easier for you? I've had no trouble making stacks of 200 ton Frigate Fuel by bulk purchasing what I can.

100-200 fuel for expeditions was no big deal. Keeping a few thousand fuel in reserve would last a week or so of expeditions. You'd need to have between 2000 and 3000 fuel per day with these new missions.
clannagh Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:18pm 
Ironically this change is actually a bonus for people with big fleets and lots of high S class. If you have frigates with 40+ in their main stat and supply ships up around +20 or more in each stat you can send out multiple small fleets cheaply and make a fortune.

For someone starting out with just half a dozen low level frigates though, this change is going to really bite.
Krovven Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:25pm 
Originally posted by clannagh:
Ironically this change is actually a bonus for people with big fleets and lots of high S class. If you have frigates with 40+ in their main stat and supply ships up around +20 or more in each stat you can send out multiple small fleets cheaply and make a fortune.

For someone starting out with just half a dozen low level frigates though, this change is going to really bite.

Most of my fleet is S class, with a balanced selection of frigates. The expedition time and materials needed was fine before. The rewards were crap, which you could use a mod to improve. The fact that their expeditions system was (still is?) bugged and only giving 1 to 3 star missions with crap rewards for S class fleets was the problem. Increasing the time frame on expeditions from 4-15 times longer was a stupid thing to do.

Just makes me and I'm sure others want to use the save editor to grant myself fuel instead of trying to obtain it by playing. This is a game, not a job.

Launchpad McQuack Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:28pm 
If you use mods, why do you care how long Expeditions take? Don't you just give yourself plenty of other crap for free anyway?

Either way, it's really a lot better now. You could only do a limited amount of Expeditions per day and their rewards were garbage. Now you do the same amount, they take longer but the rewards are far greater. You have to wait for them to recharge, so who cares if they take longer and fuel costs are higher? You can spend that time getting the Tritium and Di-Hydrogen back, or just go and buy it super cheap from the Galactic Trade Terminal.
Last edited by Launchpad McQuack; Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:39pm
Faceplant Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:30pm 
From what I've heard you're probably going to get more out of one of these missions than all 5 shorter missions previously, so just send out one expedition if you can't afford or don't want to stock enough fuel for all of them.

Personally, I like the longer missions. My only concern is making sure that I don't lose a frigate due to it getting damaged and I'm not around to recall it. On the other hand, it's most likely to happen to the newer ones, which are not expensive to replace.
Krovven Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:39pm 
Originally posted by Launchpad McQuack:
If you use mods, why do you care how long Expeditions take? Don't you just give yourself plenty of other crap for free anyway?

Either way, it's really a lot better now. You could only do a limited amount of Expeditions per day and their rewards were garbage. Now you do the same amount, they take longer but the rewards are far greater. You have to wait for them to recharge, so who cares if they take longer and fuel costs are higher? You can spend that time getting the Tritium and Di-Hydrogen back, or just guy and buy it super cheap from the Galactic Trade Terminal.

You fail to see the whole point...you shouldnt have to use mods or use the save game editor to make something take a reasonable amount of time. It's bad game design. As I said, this is a game, not a job. They are making this more and more like an grindy MMO when it isn't an MMO.
The best aspect of the game is the exploration. Constantly making the game more grindy to be able to do what you want to do, isnt fun.

I want to play the game, and I've already spent a couple hundred hours PLAYING the game and doing everythign I could to avoid the "grindy" aspects.
Launchpad McQuack Aug 30, 2018 @ 8:42pm 
You're being incredibly obtuse. You don't have to use a mod for ANYTHING, no one told you to. Aren't you the one who said you already used mods for rewards or something?

As for being grindy and taking hours, literally read my post again. The part where I said "go buy the items to make the fuel." It costs pennies. One animal scan will make the money it costs back and then some. Tritium is super cheap and so are Di-Hydrogen jellies that you can backwards refine for Di-Hydrogen.
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Date Posted: Aug 30, 2018 @ 7:55pm
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