Let us refine in either direction!

[Hiro Protagonist]

Let's use ferrite as but one example.
Ferrite Dust refines into Pure Ferrite. Pure Ferrite refines into Magnetised Ferrite. Magnetised Ferrite can be Unrefined (if you will) into Pure Ferrite.
If we can do that, can't we please unrefine other things that aren't at the highest end of the chain?
What I would like to see is anytime you put an element into a refiner, that is somewhere between the lowest and highest form of the element, give us a button that let's us toggle which direction we want to refine the item. So then we could could toggle, for example, whether we want to turn Pure Ferrite into Ferrite Dust or Magnetised Ferrite.
Reply if you support this so they can see how many want this. Thanks!

[NMSPlayer]

not terribly realistic LOL bugs me about magnetized ferrite -- you get all the pure ferrite back. But where does it come from?? If you refine mud into an iron skillet -- should you be able to get mug back? I don't think so .

[goldengoose7]

Originally posted by karenhamnik:

not terribly realistic LOL bugs me about magnetized ferrite -- you get all the pure ferrite back. But where does it come from?? If you refine mud into an iron skillet -- should you be able to get mug back? I don't think so .

I agree. A refining process is by nature a progression from the crude to the refined. Taking a refined product like Iron Ingots and turning them back into Iron Ore is about as unrealistic as it gets.

[Maestro Rugosa]

In NMS, if you combine 2 Oxygen with 1 Condensed Carbon, you get 6 Condensed Carbon.

An Oxygen harvester provides 250 Oxygen for 50 Condensed Carbon.

This basic cycle makes efficient production very easy.

(Not just that, you can combine many surprising things and produce many other surprising things.)

I am happy that refining is unrealistic in NMS.

[goldengoose7]

Originally posted by Maestro Rugosa:

I am happy that refining is unrealistic in NMS.

The majority of the stuff in NMS is painfully unrealistic. Its just that some of the stuff is more obvious than others.

There are creative ways to provide access to all these materials without all the over the top "Hand Wavium" going on. ;o)

[Maestro Rugosa]

Originally posted by goldengoose7:

"Hand Wavium"

LOL - don't disparage Hand Wavium. It's a very important element in many successful games!

(I'm ashamed to say it took me many hours to register "Di-Hydrogen" as "Di-Lithium", the main fuel in Star Trek...)

[goldengoose7]

Originally posted by Maestro Rugosa:

Originally posted by goldengoose7:

"Hand Wavium"

LOL - don't disparage Hand Wavium. It's a very important element in many successful games!

(I'm ashamed to say it took me many hours to register "Di-Hydrogen" as "Di-Lithium", the main fuel in Star Trek...)

Same here actually! But in our defense... They are not spelling it the same way, so it doesn't immediately READ as those Star Trek elements. ;o)

[Mike]

I don't think it is exactly "unrealistic" to be able to un-refine things, but it should be inefficient to do it. Refining something requires an input of energy, and the end result is thing-you-want, and other stuff you don't want. Un-refining something would again require another input of energy, and you don't ever get the energy from the refining process back, so it is lost. So as long as it requires input of energy to go both ways, I think it is generally speaking "realistic".

[Hiro Protagonist]

Originally posted by karenhamnik:

not terribly realistic LOL bugs me about magnetized ferrite -- you get all the pure ferrite back. But where does it come from?? If you refine mud into an iron skillet -- should you be able to get mug back? I don't think so .

You want realism? What game are you playing? :D

And most are missing the point that they arlready have these mechanics in the game, but only for certain items, the ones at the end of the chain.

[Hiro Protagonist]

Originally posted by Maestro Rugosa:

In NMS, if you combine 2 Oxygen with 1 Condensed Carbon, you get 6 Condensed Carbon.

An Oxygen harvester provides 250 Oxygen for 50 Condensed Carbon.

This basic cycle makes efficient production very easy.

(Not just that, you can combine many surprising things and produce many other surprising things.)

I am happy that refining is unrealistic in NMS.

Yea, you can have some fun with Cadmium and Chromatic Metal too, but ssshhh, don't want them to change it.